Best tire choice for my 997?
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Best tire choice for my 997?
I'm changing out my wheels and tires on my Carrera S, going back to 19" wheels. A previous owner put 18" wheels on it. To me they don't fill the wheel wells right. So I'm planning on Wheel Dynamics 808 in matte black. I've used Potenza S02 pole position before and like the grip. What are you guys using? Likes? Dislikes?
#2
What are your driving habits and what is car used for most of the time? Daily Driver, moderately aggressive, very aggressive, Racing track time, Canyon runs?? For me personally I only use Michelin Sport 4S now. I used to use PS2's, great tire, but only lasted me 7000 miles with 220A rating.. Super Sports after that were much longer lasting with just a tick less stick than the PS2's, but lasted me 10-12,000 miles with 300A rating. Now I use Sport 4S with 300A rating and really like them as well. A really nice combo of street driving smoothness and longevity with lot's of confidence on track days and canyon runs. I am an aggressive driver. Have about 5k miles on these new 4S so not sure how long they will last, but hoping to get at least 10k miles out of these.
May sound strange, but I also love the way the Michelin tires look. Their side wall design, lip on the bead, and also the transition from sidewall to tread all just look really race inspired to me and look great on our cars.
May sound strange, but I also love the way the Michelin tires look. Their side wall design, lip on the bead, and also the transition from sidewall to tread all just look really race inspired to me and look great on our cars.
#3
Burning Brakes
The total diameter of the tire should not be much different for 18" vs 19" (otherwise you will have speedo issues, and I'm not even getting to rubbing, suspension problems etc).
What you need to "fill the wheel wells" are spacers. 7mm F & 15mm R is a popular combination and there are folks that go even more aggressive.
Some folks install widebody wheels on a narrowbody (only the rear offsets are different), so you get to keep the same tires.
At the end of the day, it is your preference. If you've decided to change the wheels anyways, then do it to your liking.
What you need to "fill the wheel wells" are spacers. 7mm F & 15mm R is a popular combination and there are folks that go even more aggressive.
Some folks install widebody wheels on a narrowbody (only the rear offsets are different), so you get to keep the same tires.
At the end of the day, it is your preference. If you've decided to change the wheels anyways, then do it to your liking.
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Somewhat in the same boat here. Have some Pirelli P Zeros on my newly acquired C2S right now from the prior owner. Rear tires are mid-2012 and seem to be on their last legs (little tread, and lots of noise) while fronts are mid 2015 with a solid amount of tread left. After poking around this forum it appears the Michelin PS4s are the way to go. I mostly do weekend drives that consist of blasting around back roads and highways to get to and from.
Do I definitely scrap the fronts and switch over? Would appreciate quieter tires, but that will likely come with anything new.
Input appreciated
Do I definitely scrap the fronts and switch over? Would appreciate quieter tires, but that will likely come with anything new.
Input appreciated
#7
Three Wheelin'
I love my PS4S.
I also really loved 15mm spacers all around with the OEM Lobsters.
I recently got GT3 wheels, so I am looking for 5mm spacers now but I am still running the PS4S on the OEM GT3 wheels.
I would consider 235/305 on lobster forks if that is what you are going over to. 305s in the rear on the OEM wheels looks good IMO.
with this set up lowered on Eibachs, nothing sticks out and it does not look overly spaced. With H&R springs, the wheels would pull in a bit more because of the slightly lower stance. OEM is OEM, looks like Porsche was trying to build safari cars even with the PASM sports suspension 15mm lower or whatever.
I also really loved 15mm spacers all around with the OEM Lobsters.
I recently got GT3 wheels, so I am looking for 5mm spacers now but I am still running the PS4S on the OEM GT3 wheels.
I would consider 235/305 on lobster forks if that is what you are going over to. 305s in the rear on the OEM wheels looks good IMO.
with this set up lowered on Eibachs, nothing sticks out and it does not look overly spaced. With H&R springs, the wheels would pull in a bit more because of the slightly lower stance. OEM is OEM, looks like Porsche was trying to build safari cars even with the PASM sports suspension 15mm lower or whatever.
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Somewhat in the same boat here. Have some Pirelli P Zeros on my newly acquired C2S right now from the prior owner. Rear tires are mid-2012 and seem to be on their last legs (little tread, and lots of noise) while fronts are mid 2015 with a solid amount of tread left. After poking around this forum it appears the Michelin PS4s are the way to go. I mostly do weekend drives that consist of blasting around back roads and highways to get to and from.
Do I definitely scrap the fronts and switch over? Would appreciate quieter tires, but that will likely come with anything new.
Input appreciated
Do I definitely scrap the fronts and switch over? Would appreciate quieter tires, but that will likely come with anything new.
Input appreciated
#11
Three Wheelin'
+1 on the PS4Ss. They are great. Night and day ride quality compared to the old Conti Sports the prior owner had on my car. They were like driving on rocks. More importantly, they stick like glue in the corners. Ive never been in a sketchy situation with them where I felt unsafe, and I push my car pretty hard on the back roads.
They are also great on the wet. I was driving in the rain with a buddy who has Pzeros on his 991.2. He was slipping and sliding all over the place and I never once broke free.
They are also great on the wet. I was driving in the rain with a buddy who has Pzeros on his 991.2. He was slipping and sliding all over the place and I never once broke free.
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My tire of choice on my supercharged 997 and my 928 is Nitto Invo. Both cars are driven spiritedly, mostly when it's dry out, but sometimes get caught in the rain, like on a trip. The dry grip and predictable release of these tires is especially good and even with almost 500 HP in the 997 and 375 in the 928, the rears last 10k-12k miles. These tires give me 95-97% of what one of the Michelins would at maybe 60% of the cost. I'm on my second set on both cars and will continue to use them as long as they keep making them. Invos have an asymmetrical tread pattern and can be rotated side to side.
On my wife's 997, we use Hankook Ventus evo2 as she doesn't drive as spiritedly (though I have in her car on them) and we wanted longer tire life and better rain performance, as her car used to be her DD. The Hankooks aren't quite as grippy in the dry as the Invos, but rears are lasting 18k miles and performance is plenty good enough for how we use her car. These are directional tires, so can't be rotated without a dismount and remount, which we don't bother with - if the alignment settings are good they wear nice and evenly (still inside edge slightly sooner).
On my wife's 997, we use Hankook Ventus evo2 as she doesn't drive as spiritedly (though I have in her car on them) and we wanted longer tire life and better rain performance, as her car used to be her DD. The Hankooks aren't quite as grippy in the dry as the Invos, but rears are lasting 18k miles and performance is plenty good enough for how we use her car. These are directional tires, so can't be rotated without a dismount and remount, which we don't bother with - if the alignment settings are good they wear nice and evenly (still inside edge slightly sooner).
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Darn...I feel so out of touch. I still have the N1 rated Bridgestone Potenza RE050s on my 997s.
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PS4S is my vote. Had the Potenzas and they were great, not as good as PS4S in my opinion.
Spacers I would look at ECS. Remember to get longer bolts.
Spacers I would look at ECS. Remember to get longer bolts.