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Old 02-09-2004, 01:35 PM
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I loved my 993 but instead of buying a C2S or C4S I've decided to hold out for the new 997 it will have a 3.8 litre with 350 hp and the new design is great looking bringing the car back to more of the 993 style. I read where it was supposed to make it's debut in September!! I would still like to be a member on the 993 board. The wait is going to kill me though I really miss the 993 I'll keep everyone updated when purchase time comes around until then I will probally be off the board for awhile. Thanks for everyones help with the 993 look forward to the next round with a 997. Here is a pic taken in Swedan of the "supposed" final design. Keeping my fingers crossed.

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Old 02-09-2004, 01:46 PM
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Greg-
Have you spoken to a dealer regarding a timeframe when they will accept orders for the car? So far the speculation is that dealers will start accepting orders this spring, but there has been no official word yet.
Old 02-09-2004, 01:51 PM
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I called the dealer this morning I am waiting for a call back. I will post his response when I here something.
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That pic is photoshoppped. The car will probably wind up looking like that, but there's no way to tell. IMO, the back end still isn't low enough.
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I like the look of the new 997 (if that is what it ends up being). I like the 350HP numbers too. The thing I am most concerned about is the quality of the parts used.

There have been a number of threads on other boards, particular people that track Porsche cars, that the parts of the 996 and Boxster are not to the level they once were (i.e. pre 996 days, 993, 964,...). I have seen so many 996 and Boxster (S) problems when these cars have been tracked. I have been tracking my car since new (1997) and do not have reliability issues. Engine and tranny are still plugging along great. May be there would be other issues if had kept the other factory stock parts, but the only thing that is really factory stock at this point are the engine and tranny ;-) While the 993 is not the fastest car out there is sure is reliable. I am sure one day I will have a DNF, but today it is running really well.

Maybe for people like myself I should purchase a GT3. The problem there is the car is around $30,000USD more than the others. I wish they made them today like they made the 993 ;-((
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Yeah, the 997 will be using the wet-sump 996 block, unfortunately. Need to get GT2, GT3, or TT for dry-sump which is better for tracking (doesn't lose oil pressure in high-g turns). However, they have continually improved the oiling system of the wet-sump since the intro of the 996, so hopefully the 997 will be further improved in that respect. I do wish the GT3 was the base Carrera though
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GrantG,

Where did you hear the 997 will be using the M96 (996) block ? Sound logical they would, but was hoping for Turbo/GT block to resolve RMS problems with 996's.
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Where did you hear the 997 will be using the M96 (996) block ? Sound logical they would, but was hoping for Turbo/GT block to resolve RMS problems with 996's.
Me too!
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LegoDoom" This photo was not photoshopped other than the blacking out of the peoples faces. This is a "spyphoto" taken from German Automobile. I am fairly confident this is the final design being so close to the sale of the car. This photo was taken this year. I do not plan on tracking the car so I all though I would like the reliability of the 993.
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Are our 993's dry sumped?? and coudl someone explain the
diffs between wet and dry sumps??
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I apologise it was autoweek that took the shot. www.autoweek.com the ad said the following:

A new Porsche 911 (model 997) is scheduled to debut in September, but if you happened to be in northern Sweden recently you could have spotted, as our spy photographer did, the next-generation car during cold-weather testing.

The photos show Porsche has abandoned the oval headlights and returned to traditional round ones. Also, the front end is new and the redesigned rear features bigger taillights. While the exterior design changes are subtle, the big news is the water-cooled flat-six engine is expected to grow in capacity to 3.8 liters and produce around 350 hp. Both cabriolet and turbo models will follow the launch of the coupe.
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That pic is photoshopped. The article has another pic of the same vehicle with the camo. And if it's not, then why does the article say the taillights will be bigger when the pics have smallish taillights?
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I have heard from RC, owner of www.rennteam.com that they're using the wet-sump block (maybe it's called M97 now, but it's definitely not the GT block - to save $). Yes, the 993 and every 911 before the 996 has a dry-sump - a separate oil tank that allows for better oiling under cornering loads and also allows the motor to be lower in the car for better weight distribution, since there's no oil pan beneath.
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Originally posted by OldGuy
Are our 993's dry sumped?? and coudl someone explain the
diffs between wet and dry sumps??
Our engines have dry sumps. Read the article below to see why dry sumps are better.

Click here.
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those front signal-lights were photoshopped. the perspective is off, esp. the car's right signal/fog-light. & frankly... why the heck do they have that "toothy-shark-like" air dam? i hope the gt-version is even more like the 993 (more *** too)! but hell it will probably be several years for that puppy to come around. aghhhhh- the madness! waiting blows!


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