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Old 04-18-2019, 02:04 AM
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There was a similar 2005 for sale here for $37,800, with 34,000 miles. Great condition; drove nice and tight.

Borescope showed scoring however, so I decided to pass. Perhaps it will get worse, although it wasn't showing symptoms. An oil analysis would have given me much more information, but the seller was flaky (dealer) with kind of a sour attitude, so I walked.
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Originally Posted by Pmorritt
Wouldn't buy a Honda with those miles unless you want a door stop.
Really? I haven't owned a Honda, but I had a Tacoma for several years (purchased at 150k, sold at over 200k, required nothing more than oil changes) and 2 Volvos that were pushing 250k miles and ran very, very well, both sold while running strong because I simply wanted AC. I had a Subie that I bought with 85k miles and it ran like a champ until I sold it at 200k; I still see it around town. My first car was a late 70's subie that had 155k on the clock and I sold it with 225k or so.

Not everyone can afford a newish car. I certainly couldn't for many years, from the time I got my license until about 10 years ago. A "new" car for me was anything with under 100,000 miles. I would totally buy another well-maintained high-mileage car.
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Originally Posted by Para82
They're fairly rare i've had a 05 C2S Launch Edition for 10 years and racked up just under 100k miles. I'm still on the stock PCCB pads but a service yesterday says I should change them in the next 3,500 miles. I'm looking at $900 total for a full set of pads ((front/rear) from Suncoast. Keep in mind that equates to 44lbs of unsprung weight off all four corners of a Carrera S - it's going to be the most agile stock 997 C2S you drive, huge difference in handling.

150k miles is a lot on the motor for any 911. If you can get it super cheap maybe consider sending up to LN for a 4.0 build and then keep the car for many years. I think this is a better option than buying a used 997.2 for the same money.
Wow. Didn't realize the PCCB's were that much lighter. Makes me wonder what it would feel like with my current wheels or any other forged wheels which typically lop off close to another 40lbs of unsprung weight compared to most stock wheels .
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Originally Posted by sandwedge
Wow. Didn't realize the PCCB's were that much lighter. Makes me wonder what it would feel like with my current wheels or any other forged wheels which typically lop off close to another 40lbs of unsprung weight compared to most stock wheels .

Now you have me thinking this.

2,900lb range...
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https://www.suncoastparts.com/produc...735103100.html

https://www.suncoastparts.com/produc...735203202.html

$22,000
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Went through PPI today, the mechanic said engine was likely fine, but it's gonna need a clutch and likely flywheel at this point. That puts me well in to the $4k range right away with IMS. After that something about "sweating in the suspension" and will need control arms and sway bars and such at some point $2400 all in. then the back tires are crap and also there was a deleted code in the ECU and the car likely received a shady smog check. and i'll have to deal with the evaporation system in the future. Dealer is staying firm at the price which puts me at about $29k for a very well sorted but extremely high mileage C2S. At that point i might as well spend $35k and get one with 80k less miles.

Thanks for everyone's help!
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Makes me think about poor Hoovie of Hoovies garage when he buys the Cheapest whatever in the country and ends up loosing his shirt everytime haha
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Originally Posted by drmain1
Went through PPI today, the mechanic said engine was likely fine, but it's gonna need a clutch and likely flywheel at this point. That puts me well in to the $4k range right away with IMS. After that something about "sweating in the suspension" and will need control arms and sway bars and such at some point $2400 all in. then the back tires are crap and also there was a deleted code in the ECU and the car likely received a shady smog check. and i'll have to deal with the evaporation system in the future. Dealer is staying firm at the price which puts me at about $29k for a very well sorted but extremely high mileage C2S. At that point i might as well spend $35k and get one with 80k less miles.

Thanks for everyone's help!
I'm not surprised it needs clutch and suspension stuff - It's got to be pretty worn out with those miles and like I mentioned in previous post, probably an auction car or trade in from owner who was done with it and knew very well to bail before investing another $5-6K.
Where r u located?
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I'm located around Long Beach in southern california. I put an offer in at $19.5k to the dealer and he wasn't very happy about it. but he hasn't said no.
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Originally Posted by drmain1
I'm located around Long Beach in southern california. I put an offer in at $19.5k to the dealer and he wasn't very happy about it. but he hasn't said no.
Depending on condition, the PCCB rotors are worth $4-$5k used and the seats $2,500-$3,500. That means the whole rest of the car would be worth $10k. If you can get it for your price or an even $20k, I still think it's a good deal.
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yeah $20k i think is a where the market is for this. I'd be happy to put $5k in and have a damn nice car to hopefully drive for 3-4 years then throw a new motor in.
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has anyone here put a lightweight flywheel in their 997? i've been in the BMW world before this and having the car a little more free revving would be a pretty awesome modification.
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Wait and see how the flywheel is on the car---> you may need to install new since they do not machine clean these 997 flywheels---> Then u can have at your lightened Flywheel

If they deal at $19K, You can always sell the seats and brakes and use $ for clutch/suspension work
Use a couple of lawn chairs and wear boots to stop---> You'll stay sub-$20K - I'd start working out that left leg on the weights
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the mechanic told me to expect an extra $1k for a flywheel.
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Originally Posted by drmain1
has anyone here put a lightweight flywheel in their 997? i've been in the BMW world before this and having the car a little more free revving would be a pretty awesome modification.
Yes, a few have. I think Nick (Para82) has one in his launch car and maybe Sandwedge had one in one of his 997.1 cars. Remember, free-er revving means harder to launch smoothly and more difficult to drive in traffic as the mass of the flywheel helps to smooth out the clutch engagement and transfer to the drivetrain. It's easier to stall a car with a lightweight flywheel.


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