drmain1

Let me know what you guys think about this, in general, I don't like super low mileage vehicles, but the price isn't outrageous, it's at a Porsche dealer, should i bother taking it somewhere else for PPI ?

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Balr14

I would. Porsche dealers are no better than any other dealer...they don't fix anything, just replace it.

Fahrer

Yes

drmain1

the car says it was inspected by their porsche mechanics, should i try to request the documentation or better bring to private shop? The car only has 27k miles.

ryangambrill

Others may disagree, but here is my take on the PPI or No PPI - That is the question!!

I don't believe in absolutes. It all comes down to your personal tolerance for risk as well as the risk of the specific vehicle you are interested in purchasing.

I have done PPI as well as skipped PPI's.

I found out after delivery (out of state deal) that the PPI was not comprehensive. I ended up being surprised by a few small items that cost me money out of pocket. PPI thoroughness can be a mixed bag.

As a general rule of thumb, a shop will charge 3 hours labor. If a PCar dealer performs the PPI, it will mimic the CPO inspection.

I chose to skip the PPI on my last purchase. My biggest concern was accident history and not mechanical issues as I am going to purchase a Fidelity Warranty. I felt very comfortable with the selling dealer. They also provided paint thickness readings along with a ton of photos, clean carfax, etc. I figured that the $400-$500 for PPI would be better served if used towards the warranty.

Oh, I did not purchase from a PCar dealer. Car came from Field's Bentley/Lambo in Orlando. Field's owns Jax Porsche (Formally Brumos).

Iceter

Depends on the dealer. Keep in mind that a dealer is in business to sell cars and the tech works for the dealer.

Also, is the dealer local or across the country? If it's local and you buy the car, when something turns up that they missed on the PPI, you have a better shot at taking it back and having them fix it. I bought my car several states away. If they missed or fudged something on the PPI, I'll be out of luck.

raidersfan

when getting a warranty from Fidelity (or anyone), what is the process to ensure that the car doesn't have existing issues? I am sure there is an inspection, but beyond that? The owner might know of potential issues beyond the scope of a PPI. When buying an extended warranty, I have always gotten one on a car with existing (but about to expire) warranty.

ryangambrill

It has been my experience that Fidelity does not require a full inspection of the vehicle. Only validation of mileage.

They build risk into the price of the policy. My car has 18k miles. How often do you find vehicles with 18k miles with significant issues?

Caustic

Always get a PPI. As others in this thread have already said, a Porsche dealer is still a dealer.

While a PPI does not find everything, a good PPI can find things that you might miss. For example, an unreported accident. Good luck on your search.

HenryPcar

Other than CPO cars that they certify, not all dealers do PPIs because of liability reasons.

steam_mill

I am from the 996;side of the house.....I lurk here to read about bore scoring on 997.1 lol.

Anyway, Ppi can actually save you money.

I bought my 2003 996 this past October at a very large Porsche dealer. 45000 miles.

Phase 1 PPI was completed. Found leaky RMS. Broken seat motor too. I agreed to phase 2 PPI including borescope and leak down.

Full PPI was about $800. PPI quoted $1400 RMS replacement cost.

I reviewed report with dealer. They fixed the seat. I asked them to discount the price of the car by the full RMS replacement cost. I was hoping for 50%. Nope, discounted car by the full $1400. Funded 1/3 cost of having the Solution installed.

PPI was well worth it imho.

gopirates

Yes! I failed to get a PPI but did get it CPO inspected. My car got new front tires to pass the CPO based on tread wear. Once I had the car for a month or so I realized my rear tires should not have passed the inspection due to AGE, which is clearly articulated on the CPO inspection checklist for treadwear and age. I called the dealership in Philly, after consulting with my local dealership, and politely explained this and let them know I would quickly escalate to PCNA.

The Philly dealership worked out a deal for them to pay for new rears to be installed by my local dealership.

TLDR. Always get a PPI, from a different outfit than the seller and also get CPO if you can.

sandwedge

I think the thread linked to below will answer your question. It's one of the longest threads I recall seeing on RL (54 pages) but all you need to read is the quotes I pulled from the OP's opening post which will give you all you need to know. Or better yet, open the thread, read the opening post and judge for yourself. If what you read doesn't sound bad enough for a CPO car, also keep in mind that it was sold by one of the most prestigious highest volume Porsche dealers in the US (Beverly Hills Porsche CA). Like they need to peddle and lie about trash like this. This buyer did not have an independent PPI done, thinking the promises made by the dealer along with the CPO should be good enough.

G.I.G.

From my experience, and the experience of some of my friends and others here, it is always prudent to get a PPI. Regardless of who is selling it, you always want an unbiased 3rd party opinion. Not only did my PPI uncover things that I wouldn't have found on my own, you can almost always cover the cost of the PPI (and probably more) with what they find wrong with the car. Nothing on my PPI deterred me from buying my 997, but I was able to use what they found as a bargaining chip.

Also, this car has been on the market for a while. I would hope they would be willing to work with you if you decide to pursue this one. Good luck.

G

Petza914

Yes, have a PPI done so where other then the selling entity.

It's like filing insurance through your own company after an accident where you're not at fault - your company wants to make you happy since you're their customer - the other company wants to put it behind them for as little as possible. The company you take the car to for a PPI is working for you - the selling dealer wants to sell you the car for as much as possible and put as little money into it to do that as possible, especially if you're buying out of state and they know they won't see you again.