BAT Auction Thread
#841
Instructor
I really don't see why it's so hard to take 60 pics and a couple videos when trying to sale a high dollar used car to tell you the truth???
If I'm trying to sale a car I'd have two hundred pics and a video or two stored and ready to email an interested buyer at the drop of a hat.
If I'm trying to sale a car I'd have two hundred pics and a video or two stored and ready to email an interested buyer at the drop of a hat.
#842
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Nobody's keeping track of the wins, so I had to go back a few pages to research the auctions I missed and didn't guess on.
I think this is the updated list.
Running score For "Wins":
Street Rod = 2
Vincent713 = 2
Jeebus31 = 2
Big Swole = 2
Bloose993TT = 1
Bronz = 1
Kellen = 1
zygomatic = 1
Bgoetz = 1
wolfsburgde = 1
3404 = 1
groovzilla = 1
jimfuerst = 1
ilovemaui = 1
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...carrera-4s-14/
$40,997 Vincent713
$41,997 wolfsburgde
$42,500 linderpat
$43,000 floatingfish
$43,750 Big Swole
$44,500 Kellen
$44,997 Socal-NSX
$45,500 pfbz
$46,000 groovzilla
$46,997 Jeebus31
$48,500 ilovemaui
I think this is the updated list.
Running score For "Wins":
Street Rod = 2
Vincent713 = 2
Jeebus31 = 2
Big Swole = 2
Bloose993TT = 1
Bronz = 1
Kellen = 1
zygomatic = 1
Bgoetz = 1
wolfsburgde = 1
3404 = 1
groovzilla = 1
jimfuerst = 1
ilovemaui = 1
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...carrera-4s-14/
$40,997 Vincent713
$41,997 wolfsburgde
$42,500 linderpat
$43,000 floatingfish
$43,750 Big Swole
$44,500 Kellen
$44,997 Socal-NSX
$45,500 pfbz
$46,000 groovzilla
$46,997 Jeebus31
$48,500 ilovemaui
#843
Running score For "Wins":
Street Rod = 2
Vincent713 = 2
Jeebus31 = 2
Big Swole = 2
Bloose993TT = 1
Bronz = 1
Kellen = 1
zygomatic = 1
Bgoetz = 1
wolfsburgde = 1
3404 = 1
groovzilla = 1
jimfuerst = 1
ilovemaui = 1
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...carrera-4s-14/
$40,997 Vincent713
$41,997 wolfsburgde
$42,500 linderpat
$43,000 floatingfish
$43,750 Big Swole
$44,500 Kellen
$44,997 Socal-NSX
$45,500 pfbz
$46,000 groovzilla
$46,997 Jeebus31
$48,500 ilovemaui
$49,097 C4SDAYTON
Street Rod = 2
Vincent713 = 2
Jeebus31 = 2
Big Swole = 2
Bloose993TT = 1
Bronz = 1
Kellen = 1
zygomatic = 1
Bgoetz = 1
wolfsburgde = 1
3404 = 1
groovzilla = 1
jimfuerst = 1
ilovemaui = 1
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...carrera-4s-14/
$40,997 Vincent713
$41,997 wolfsburgde
$42,500 linderpat
$43,000 floatingfish
$43,750 Big Swole
$44,500 Kellen
$44,997 Socal-NSX
$45,500 pfbz
$46,000 groovzilla
$46,997 Jeebus31
$48,500 ilovemaui
$49,097 C4SDAYTON
#844
Three Wheelin'
Thread Starter
I am in at $45,250
Running score For "Wins":
Street Rod = 2
Vincent713 = 2
Jeebus31 = 2
Big Swole = 2
Bloose993TT = 1
Bronz = 1
Kellen = 1
zygomatic = 1
Bgoetz = 1
wolfsburgde = 1
3404 = 1
groovzilla = 1
jimfuerst = 1
ilovemaui = 1
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...carrera-4s-14/
$40,997 Vincent713
$41,997 wolfsburgde
$42,500 linderpat
$43,000 floatingfish
$43,750 Big Swole
$44,500 Kellen
$44,997 Socal-NSX
$45,500 pfzb
$45,250 bgoetz
$46,000 groovzilla
$46,997 Jeebus31
$48,500 ilovemaui
$49,097 C4SDAYTON
Running score For "Wins":
Street Rod = 2
Vincent713 = 2
Jeebus31 = 2
Big Swole = 2
Bloose993TT = 1
Bronz = 1
Kellen = 1
zygomatic = 1
Bgoetz = 1
wolfsburgde = 1
3404 = 1
groovzilla = 1
jimfuerst = 1
ilovemaui = 1
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...carrera-4s-14/
$40,997 Vincent713
$41,997 wolfsburgde
$42,500 linderpat
$43,000 floatingfish
$43,750 Big Swole
$44,500 Kellen
$44,997 Socal-NSX
$45,500 pfzb
$45,250 bgoetz
$46,000 groovzilla
$46,997 Jeebus31
$48,500 ilovemaui
$49,097 C4SDAYTON
#845
I like games & Porsche
$43,400
Running score For "Wins":
Street Rod = 2
Vincent713 = 2
Jeebus31 = 2
Big Swole = 2
Bloose993TT = 1
Bronz = 1
Kellen = 1
zygomatic = 1
Bgoetz = 1
wolfsburgde = 1
3404 = 1
groovzilla = 1
jimfuerst = 1
ilovemaui = 1
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...carrera-4s-14/
$40,997 Vincent713
$41,997 wolfsburgde
$42,500 linderpat
$43,000 floatingfish
$43,400 T4S
$43,750 Big Swole
$44,500 Kellen
$44,997 Socal-NSX
$45,500 pfzb
$45,250 bgoetz
$46,000 groovzilla
$46,997 Jeebus31
$48,500 ilovemaui
$49,097 C4SDAYTON
$43,400
Running score For "Wins":
Street Rod = 2
Vincent713 = 2
Jeebus31 = 2
Big Swole = 2
Bloose993TT = 1
Bronz = 1
Kellen = 1
zygomatic = 1
Bgoetz = 1
wolfsburgde = 1
3404 = 1
groovzilla = 1
jimfuerst = 1
ilovemaui = 1
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...carrera-4s-14/
$40,997 Vincent713
$41,997 wolfsburgde
$42,500 linderpat
$43,000 floatingfish
$43,400 T4S
$43,750 Big Swole
$44,500 Kellen
$44,997 Socal-NSX
$45,500 pfzb
$45,250 bgoetz
$46,000 groovzilla
$46,997 Jeebus31
$48,500 ilovemaui
$49,097 C4SDAYTON
#846
Nordschleife Master
I think there are degrees. For a $100K plus car, I think most serious bidders would try to arrange a ppi. For most of the 911's we are playing with in this thread, not so much.
I do think the format works - sort of like a group ppi / wiki, in that if the seller wants top dollar, he must respond to all of the questions and disclose as much as possible. This is a form of ppi. If buyers get a hint of an issue, then all bets are off (usually). Either the value drops or it becomes a RNM (reserve not met). The current car we are playing with here may indeed suffer from this. If I were allowed, I'd drop my "bid" by a few grand based on the comment posted there. Also, a ppi does not always show everything either. In an ideal world, I put my own eyes on a car before buying. That said, I have bought multiple cars sight unseen, with eyes on by fellow rennlisters, or no eyes at all. Sometimes you get burned. It's only money
I do think the format works - sort of like a group ppi / wiki, in that if the seller wants top dollar, he must respond to all of the questions and disclose as much as possible. This is a form of ppi. If buyers get a hint of an issue, then all bets are off (usually). Either the value drops or it becomes a RNM (reserve not met). The current car we are playing with here may indeed suffer from this. If I were allowed, I'd drop my "bid" by a few grand based on the comment posted there. Also, a ppi does not always show everything either. In an ideal world, I put my own eyes on a car before buying. That said, I have bought multiple cars sight unseen, with eyes on by fellow rennlisters, or no eyes at all. Sometimes you get burned. It's only money
I see what you're saying but the cost of replacing an engine is about the same whether it's a $50K or a $100K 911. So for me, I wouldn't try to save $300 on a PPI because the BAT car had 100 pictures, a beautifully novel written about it by the seller and it only cost $50K. It could still have horrible DME readings and evidence of bore scoring, evidence of extensive body work and paint work, none of which needless to say would be included in the novel or most likely not visible no matter how many pictures.
I guess the thing I don't get about BAT is what seems to be the notion by many that BAT sellers are more honest about the condition of their cars than sellers elsewhere( including dealerships) and that a huge amount of pictures along with the extensive disclosure requirement is a good substitute for a PPI. Just for starters, how many 997 owners can state with any kind of honesty whether or not their car has bore scoring issues or not? Most would have no way of knowing. And how many with a manual can say they have no DME readings above 3?
Almost the same thing again. Some may have a hunch but many others honestly wouldn't know. I could go on and to each their own but I will continue to buy my cars the way I always have whether the ad has 5 pictures or 100. And I'll gladly pay the $300 or $500 for a first rate PPI any day no matter where the car is advertised and no matter how perfect it is according to the seller.
#847
Pro
I like the 997.1 vert at $44,000. You guys forgot to add me to the “wins” column: 140.6er = 0
Running score For "Wins":
Street Rod = 2
Vincent713 = 2
Jeebus31 = 2
Big Swole = 2
Bloose993TT = 1
Bronz = 1
Kellen = 1
zygomatic = 1
Bgoetz = 1
wolfsburgde = 1
3404 = 1
groovzilla = 1
jimfuerst = 1
ilovemaui = 1
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...carrera-4s-14/
$40,997 Vincent713
$41,997 wolfsburgde
$42,500 linderpat
$43,000 floatingfish
$43,400 T4S
$43,750 Big Swole
$44,000 140.6er
$44,500 Kellen
$44,997 Socal-NSX
$45,500 pfzb
$45,250 bgoetz
$46,000 groovzilla
$46,997 Jeebus31
$48,500 ilovemaui
$49,097 C4SDAYTON
Running score For "Wins":
Street Rod = 2
Vincent713 = 2
Jeebus31 = 2
Big Swole = 2
Bloose993TT = 1
Bronz = 1
Kellen = 1
zygomatic = 1
Bgoetz = 1
wolfsburgde = 1
3404 = 1
groovzilla = 1
jimfuerst = 1
ilovemaui = 1
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...carrera-4s-14/
$40,997 Vincent713
$41,997 wolfsburgde
$42,500 linderpat
$43,000 floatingfish
$43,400 T4S
$43,750 Big Swole
$44,000 140.6er
$44,500 Kellen
$44,997 Socal-NSX
$45,500 pfzb
$45,250 bgoetz
$46,000 groovzilla
$46,997 Jeebus31
$48,500 ilovemaui
$49,097 C4SDAYTON
#848
Rennlist Member
But auctions still have appeal and value, not the least of which is exposure to cars for sale that you otherwise would likely not even know about. And for BAT, lots of high quality pictures ARE effective at figuring out if it is a car you are interested in, along with the description, documents, and often the comments. And if you do consider selling your car on BAT, lots of very high quality photos are key.... Why continue arguing the point?
#849
Rennlist Member
Just to fix the sort order of bgoetz's guess:
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Running score For "Wins":
Street Rod = 2
Vincent713 = 2
Jeebus31 = 2
Big Swole = 2
Bloose993TT = 1
Bronz = 1
Kellen = 1
zygomatic = 1
Bgoetz = 1
wolfsburgde = 1
3404 = 1
groovzilla = 1
jimfuerst = 1
ilovemaui = 1
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...carrera-4s-14/
$40,997 Vincent713
$41,997 wolfsburgde
$42,500 linderpat
$43,000 floatingfish
$43,400 T4S
$43,750 Big Swole
$44,000 140.6er
$44,500 Kellen
$44,997 Socal-NSX
$45,250 bgoetz
$45,500 pfbz
$46,000 groovzilla
$46,997 Jeebus31
$48,500 ilovemaui
$49,097 C4SDAYTON
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Running score For "Wins":
Street Rod = 2
Vincent713 = 2
Jeebus31 = 2
Big Swole = 2
Bloose993TT = 1
Bronz = 1
Kellen = 1
zygomatic = 1
Bgoetz = 1
wolfsburgde = 1
3404 = 1
groovzilla = 1
jimfuerst = 1
ilovemaui = 1
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...carrera-4s-14/
$40,997 Vincent713
$41,997 wolfsburgde
$42,500 linderpat
$43,000 floatingfish
$43,400 T4S
$43,750 Big Swole
$44,000 140.6er
$44,500 Kellen
$44,997 Socal-NSX
$45,250 bgoetz
$45,500 pfbz
$46,000 groovzilla
$46,997 Jeebus31
$48,500 ilovemaui
$49,097 C4SDAYTON
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#850
I'm in at $41,500
Running score For "Wins":
Street Rod = 2
Vincent713 = 2
Jeebus31 = 2
Big Swole = 2
Bloose993TT = 1
Bronz = 1
Kellen = 1
zygomatic = 1
Bgoetz = 1
wolfsburgde = 1
3404 = 1
groovzilla = 1
jimfuerst = 1
ilovemaui = 1
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...carrera-4s-14/
$40,997 Vincent713
$41,500 driggity
$41,997 wolfsburgde
$42,500 linderpat
$43,000 floatingfish
$43,400 T4S
$43,750 Big Swole
$44,000 140.6er
$44,500 Kellen
$44,997 Socal-NSX
$45,250 bgoetz
$45,500 pfbz
$46,000 groovzilla
$46,997 Jeebus31
$48,500 ilovemaui
$49,097 C4SDAYTON
Running score For "Wins":
Street Rod = 2
Vincent713 = 2
Jeebus31 = 2
Big Swole = 2
Bloose993TT = 1
Bronz = 1
Kellen = 1
zygomatic = 1
Bgoetz = 1
wolfsburgde = 1
3404 = 1
groovzilla = 1
jimfuerst = 1
ilovemaui = 1
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...carrera-4s-14/
$40,997 Vincent713
$41,500 driggity
$41,997 wolfsburgde
$42,500 linderpat
$43,000 floatingfish
$43,400 T4S
$43,750 Big Swole
$44,000 140.6er
$44,500 Kellen
$44,997 Socal-NSX
$45,250 bgoetz
$45,500 pfbz
$46,000 groovzilla
$46,997 Jeebus31
$48,500 ilovemaui
$49,097 C4SDAYTON
#851
I see what you're saying but the cost of replacing an engine is about the same whether it's a $50K or a $100K 911. So for me, I wouldn't try to save $300 on a PPI because the BAT car had 100 pictures, a beautifully novel written about it by the seller and it only cost $50K. It could still have horrible DME readings and evidence of bore scoring, evidence of extensive body work and paint work, none of which needless to say would be included in the novel or most likely not visible no matter how many pictures.
I guess the thing I don't get about BAT is what seems to be the notion by many that BAT sellers are more honest about the condition of their cars than sellers elsewhere( including dealerships) and that a huge amount of pictures along with the extensive disclosure requirement is a good substitute for a PPI. Just for starters, how many 997 owners can state with any kind of honesty whether or not their car has bore scoring issues or not? Most would have no way of knowing. And how many with a manual can say they have no DME readings above 3?
Almost the same thing again. Some may have a hunch but many others honestly wouldn't know. I could go on and to each their own but I will continue to buy my cars the way I always have whether the ad has 5 pictures or 100. And I'll gladly pay the $300 or $500 for a first rate PPI any day no matter where the car is advertised and no matter how perfect it is according to the seller.
I guess the thing I don't get about BAT is what seems to be the notion by many that BAT sellers are more honest about the condition of their cars than sellers elsewhere( including dealerships) and that a huge amount of pictures along with the extensive disclosure requirement is a good substitute for a PPI. Just for starters, how many 997 owners can state with any kind of honesty whether or not their car has bore scoring issues or not? Most would have no way of knowing. And how many with a manual can say they have no DME readings above 3?
Almost the same thing again. Some may have a hunch but many others honestly wouldn't know. I could go on and to each their own but I will continue to buy my cars the way I always have whether the ad has 5 pictures or 100. And I'll gladly pay the $300 or $500 for a first rate PPI any day no matter where the car is advertised and no matter how perfect it is according to the seller.
#852
Three Wheelin'
In at $42,750
Running score For "Wins":
Street Rod = 2
Vincent713 = 2
Jeebus31 = 2
Big Swole = 2
Bloose993TT = 1
Bronz = 1
Kellen = 1
zygomatic = 1
Bgoetz = 1
wolfsburgde = 1
3404 = 1
groovzilla = 1
jimfuerst = 1
ilovemaui = 1
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...carrera-4s-14/
$40,997 Vincent713
$41,500 driggity
$41,997 wolfsburgde
$42,500 linderpat
$42,750 bloose993tt
$43,000 floatingfish
$43,400 T4S
$43,750 Big Swole
$44,000 140.6er
$44,500 Kellen
$44,997 Socal-NSX
$45,250 bgoetz
$45,500 pfbz
$46,000 groovzilla
$46,997 Jeebus31
$48,500 ilovemaui
$49,097 C4SDAYTON
Street Rod = 2
Vincent713 = 2
Jeebus31 = 2
Big Swole = 2
Bloose993TT = 1
Bronz = 1
Kellen = 1
zygomatic = 1
Bgoetz = 1
wolfsburgde = 1
3404 = 1
groovzilla = 1
jimfuerst = 1
ilovemaui = 1
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...carrera-4s-14/
$40,997 Vincent713
$41,500 driggity
$41,997 wolfsburgde
$42,500 linderpat
$42,750 bloose993tt
$43,000 floatingfish
$43,400 T4S
$43,750 Big Swole
$44,000 140.6er
$44,500 Kellen
$44,997 Socal-NSX
$45,250 bgoetz
$45,500 pfbz
$46,000 groovzilla
$46,997 Jeebus31
$48,500 ilovemaui
$49,097 C4SDAYTON
#853
Rennlist Member
Pinned at $32,500 w/4 hours to go----> Not sure if it will climb to the $46K mark?? Should be interesting
Running score For "Wins":
Street Rod = 2
Vincent713 = 2
Jeebus31 = 2
Big Swole = 2
Bloose993TT = 1
Bronz = 1
Kellen = 1
zygomatic = 1
Bgoetz = 1
wolfsburgde = 1
3404 = 1
groovzilla = 1
jimfuerst = 1
ilovemaui = 1
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...carrera-4s-14/
$40,997 Vincent713
$41,500 driggity
$41,997 wolfsburgde
$42,500 linderpat
$42,750 bloose993tt
$43,000 floatingfish
$43,400 T4S
$43,750 Big Swole
$44,000 140.6er
$44,500 Kellen
$44,997 Socal-NSX
$45,250 bgoetz
$45,500 pfbz
$46,000 groovzilla
$46,997 Jeebus31
$48,500 ilovemaui
$49,097 C4SDAYTON
Running score For "Wins":
Street Rod = 2
Vincent713 = 2
Jeebus31 = 2
Big Swole = 2
Bloose993TT = 1
Bronz = 1
Kellen = 1
zygomatic = 1
Bgoetz = 1
wolfsburgde = 1
3404 = 1
groovzilla = 1
jimfuerst = 1
ilovemaui = 1
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...carrera-4s-14/
$40,997 Vincent713
$41,500 driggity
$41,997 wolfsburgde
$42,500 linderpat
$42,750 bloose993tt
$43,000 floatingfish
$43,400 T4S
$43,750 Big Swole
$44,000 140.6er
$44,500 Kellen
$44,997 Socal-NSX
$45,250 bgoetz
$45,500 pfbz
$46,000 groovzilla
$46,997 Jeebus31
$48,500 ilovemaui
$49,097 C4SDAYTON
#854
At the rate that it's going looks like I have a good chance! The real action usually doesn't happen until the last 2 minute anyways.
#855
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I'm betting on RNM...Where it gets to, is still up for grabs.
I think I was high now. Should've gone lower.
I think I was high now. Should've gone lower.