Rogueman1

Exactly?

Big Swole

Nobody's keeping track of the wins, so I had to go back a few pages to research the auctions I missed and didn't guess on.
I think this is the updated list.



Running score For "Wins":
Street Rod = 2
Vincent713 = 2
Jeebus31 = 2
Big Swole = 2
Bloose993TT = 1
Bronz = 1
Kellen = 1
zygomatic = 1
Bgoetz = 1
wolfsburgde = 1
3404 = 1
groovzilla = 1
jimfuerst = 1
ilovemaui = 1



https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...carrera-4s-14/

$40,997 Vincent713
$41,997 wolfsburgde
$42,500 linderpat
$43,000 floatingfish
$43,750 Big Swole
$44,500 Kellen
$44,997 Socal-NSX
$45,500 pfbz
$46,000 groovzilla
$46,997 Jeebus31
$48,500 ilovemaui

C4SDayton

Running score For "Wins":
Street Rod = 2
Vincent713 = 2
Jeebus31 = 2
Big Swole = 2
Bloose993TT = 1
Bronz = 1
Kellen = 1
zygomatic = 1
Bgoetz = 1
wolfsburgde = 1
3404 = 1
groovzilla = 1
jimfuerst = 1
ilovemaui = 1



https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...carrera-4s-14/

$40,997 Vincent713
$41,997 wolfsburgde
$42,500 linderpat
$43,000 floatingfish
$43,750 Big Swole
$44,500 Kellen
$44,997 Socal-NSX
$45,500 pfbz
$46,000 groovzilla
$46,997 Jeebus31
$48,500 ilovemaui
$49,097 C4SDAYTON

bgoetz

I am in at $45,250

Running score For "Wins":
Street Rod = 2
Vincent713 = 2
Jeebus31 = 2
Big Swole = 2
Bloose993TT = 1
Bronz = 1
Kellen = 1
zygomatic = 1
Bgoetz = 1
wolfsburgde = 1
3404 = 1
groovzilla = 1
jimfuerst = 1
ilovemaui = 1



https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...carrera-4s-14/

$40,997 Vincent713
$41,997 wolfsburgde
$42,500 linderpat
$43,000 floatingfish
$43,750 Big Swole
$44,500 Kellen
$44,997 Socal-NSX
$45,500 pfzb
$45,250 bgoetz
$46,000 groovzilla
$46,997 Jeebus31
$48,500 ilovemaui
$49,097 C4SDAYTON

T4S

I like games & Porsche
$43,400

Running score For "Wins":
Street Rod = 2
Vincent713 = 2
Jeebus31 = 2
Big Swole = 2
Bloose993TT = 1
Bronz = 1
Kellen = 1
zygomatic = 1
Bgoetz = 1
wolfsburgde = 1
3404 = 1
groovzilla = 1
jimfuerst = 1
ilovemaui = 1



https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...carrera-4s-14/

$40,997 Vincent713
$41,997 wolfsburgde
$42,500 linderpat
$43,000 floatingfish
$43,400 T4S
$43,750 Big Swole
$44,500 Kellen
$44,997 Socal-NSX
$45,500 pfzb
$45,250 bgoetz
$46,000 groovzilla
$46,997 Jeebus31
$48,500 ilovemaui
$49,097 C4SDAYTON

sandwedge

I see what you're saying but the cost of replacing an engine is about the same whether it's a $50K or a $100K 911. So for me, I wouldn't try to save $300 on a PPI because the BAT car had 100 pictures, a beautifully novel written about it by the seller and it only cost $50K. It could still have horrible DME readings and evidence of bore scoring, evidence of extensive body work and paint work, none of which needless to say would be included in the novel or most likely not visible no matter how many pictures.

I guess the thing I don't get about BAT is what seems to be the notion by many that BAT sellers are more honest about the condition of their cars than sellers elsewhere( including dealerships) and that a huge amount of pictures along with the extensive disclosure requirement is a good substitute for a PPI. Just for starters, how many 997 owners can state with any kind of honesty whether or not their car has bore scoring issues or not? Most would have no way of knowing. And how many with a manual can say they have no DME readings above 3?

Almost the same thing again. Some may have a hunch but many others honestly wouldn't know. I could go on and to each their own but I will continue to buy my cars the way I always have whether the ad has 5 pictures or 100. And I'll gladly pay the $300 or $500 for a first rate PPI any day no matter where the car is advertised and no matter how perfect it is according to the seller.

140.6er

I like the 997.1 vert at $44,000. You guys forgot to add me to the “wins” column: 140.6er = 0

Running score For "Wins":
Street Rod = 2
Vincent713 = 2
Jeebus31 = 2
Big Swole = 2
Bloose993TT = 1
Bronz = 1
Kellen = 1
zygomatic = 1
Bgoetz = 1
wolfsburgde = 1
3404 = 1
groovzilla = 1
jimfuerst = 1
ilovemaui = 1



https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...carrera-4s-14/

$40,997 Vincent713
$41,997 wolfsburgde
$42,500 linderpat
$43,000 floatingfish
$43,400 T4S
$43,750 Big Swole
$44,000 140.6er
$44,500 Kellen
$44,997 Socal-NSX
$45,500 pfzb
$45,250 bgoetz
$46,000 groovzilla
$46,997 Jeebus31
$48,500 ilovemaui
$49,097 C4SDAYTON

pfbz

Yes, buying a car at auction poses some increased risk. This is even more true with Mecum, Gooding, Barrett-Jackson, etc. Typically no PPI's, no test drives, and an unscrupulous seller can fairly easily hide flaws. I have bought two cars at Mecum auctions and was high bidder (but no transaction) on one BAT car. The mecum cars where both decent purchases, but both did have some hidden issues that a PPI might have uncovered. Or might not have as PPI thoroughness and quality varies as widely as the cars themselves.

But auctions still have appeal and value, not the least of which is exposure to cars for sale that you otherwise would likely not even know about. And for BAT, lots of high quality pictures ARE effective at figuring out if it is a car you are interested in, along with the description, documents, and often the comments. And if you do consider selling your car on BAT, lots of very high quality photos are key.... Why continue arguing the point?

pfbz

Just to fix the sort order of bgoetz's guess:
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Running score For "Wins":
Street Rod = 2
Vincent713 = 2
Jeebus31 = 2
Big Swole = 2
Bloose993TT = 1
Bronz = 1
Kellen = 1
zygomatic = 1
Bgoetz = 1
wolfsburgde = 1
3404 = 1
groovzilla = 1
jimfuerst = 1
ilovemaui = 1

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...carrera-4s-14/

$40,997 Vincent713
$41,997 wolfsburgde
$42,500 linderpat
$43,000 floatingfish
$43,400 T4S
$43,750 Big Swole
$44,000 140.6er
$44,500 Kellen
$44,997 Socal-NSX
$45,250 bgoetz
$45,500 pfbz
$46,000 groovzilla
$46,997 Jeebus31
$48,500 ilovemaui
$49,097 C4SDAYTON
__________________

driggity

I'm in at $41,500

Running score For "Wins":
Street Rod = 2
Vincent713 = 2
Jeebus31 = 2
Big Swole = 2
Bloose993TT = 1
Bronz = 1
Kellen = 1
zygomatic = 1
Bgoetz = 1
wolfsburgde = 1
3404 = 1
groovzilla = 1
jimfuerst = 1
ilovemaui = 1

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...carrera-4s-14/

$40,997 Vincent713
$41,500 driggity
$41,997 wolfsburgde
$42,500 linderpat
$43,000 floatingfish
$43,400 T4S
$43,750 Big Swole
$44,000 140.6er
$44,500 Kellen
$44,997 Socal-NSX
$45,250 bgoetz
$45,500 pfbz
$46,000 groovzilla
$46,997 Jeebus31
$48,500 ilovemaui
$49,097 C4SDAYTON

C4SDayton

There are alot of talkers on BAT, but what makes you think many of the real bidders and buyers of 50-200k+ Porsches on BAT aren't getting PPIs? Most post DME data. The higher end ones post paint meter readings so people believe the Carfax reports. A serious bidder getting a PPI won't tell other bidders about it to save them money. And many bidders probably don't know Porsches are so problematic they need bore scopes to make sure they won't be on the hook for a new engine that somehow costs what an entire new Camry costs. Just kidding there. Sort of.

Bloose993TT

In at $42,750

groovzilla

Pinned at $32,500 w/4 hours to go----> Not sure if it will climb to the $46K mark?? Should be interesting

Running score For "Wins":
Street Rod = 2
Vincent713 = 2
Jeebus31 = 2
Big Swole = 2
Bloose993TT = 1
Bronz = 1
Kellen = 1
zygomatic = 1
Bgoetz = 1
wolfsburgde = 1
3404 = 1
groovzilla = 1
jimfuerst = 1
ilovemaui = 1

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...carrera-4s-14/

$40,997 Vincent713
$41,500 driggity
$41,997 wolfsburgde
$42,500 linderpat
$42,750 bloose993tt
$43,000 floatingfish
$43,400 T4S
$43,750 Big Swole
$44,000 140.6er
$44,500 Kellen
$44,997 Socal-NSX
$45,250 bgoetz
$45,500 pfbz
$46,000 groovzilla
$46,997 Jeebus31
$48,500 ilovemaui
$49,097 C4SDAYTON

Vincent713

At the rate that it's going looks like I have a good chance! The real action usually doesn't happen until the last 2 minute anyways.

Big Swole

I'm betting on RNM...Where it gets to, is still up for grabs.

I think I was high now. Should've gone lower.