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Old 01-28-2019, 01:40 PM
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I agree with Tcc1999; no matter how you slice it, you are talking about an 11 - 13 year old car that is 3 generations old. It's hard to judge the worth of these cars when all you know is the price differential. But, keep in mind one is manual and one is tiptronic and you haven't said if that matters to you. Tiptronic generally means a price penalty as they are not highly desirable. Also, keep in mind you can buy an 09 C2S cab with PDK and around 50k miles for $43k - $46k, which is a much improved car.
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Originally Posted by Balr14
I agree with Tcc1999; no matter how you slice it, you are talking about an 11 - 13 year old car that is 3 generations old. It's hard to judge the worth of these cars when all you know is the price differential. But, keep in mind one is manual and one is tiptronic and you haven't said if that matters to you. Tiptronic generally means a price penalty as they are not highly desirable. Also, keep in mind you can buy an 09 C2S cab with PDK and around 50k miles for $43k - $46k, which is a much improved car.
From the OP's original post, both are MT cars, same year, both cabs - with mileage and Sport Chrono being the primary differentiators
Old 01-28-2019, 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Petza914
From the OP's original post, both are MT cars, same year, both cabs - with mileage and Sport Chrono being the primary differentiators
Oh??? I quote: "To your knowledge, is a 2006 C2 cab 5sp sport chrono with 20000 miles worth $10G more than a 2008 C2 cab 5sp with 67000 miles without sport chrono"
Old 01-28-2019, 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Balr14
Oh??? I quote: "To your knowledge, is a 2006 C2 cab 5sp sport chrono with 20000 miles worth $10G more than a 2008 C2 cab 5sp with 67000 miles without sport chrono"
Are you confusing the Sport Chrono Option and the Tiptronic Transmission - both cars are listed as 5sp, even though they should be called 6sp. which I assume to mean it's a Manual Transmission. If he's talking about a 5sp Tiptronic, then both cars are the same also, so no valuation difference comparing a MT in one to a Tiptronic.
Old 01-28-2019, 08:47 PM
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Yes. The older car with less miles is worth $10G more "to me" if I have been looking for a long time and is optioned exactly the way I want it to be and is in good shape (clean carfax, service history etc). Some sit for years waiting for that right buyer to save cash and one day just come in , pay that price and drive away with a smile on their face. Good enthusiast focused dealers know this and hence will not budge much on price (Holt, RAC motorsports, Milleania motors, P dealers .etc. ). With the advent of 991/992's that are more comfort focused and feel less like a classic 911, traditional wisdom of "buy the newest 911 you can afford" is no longer valid. Now it is "buy that 911 you always wanted when you can afford it). Good luck
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Thanks for your input guys. I used a tool to evaluate the cars. It takes the year, model, equipment and mileage in consideration and gives both wholesale and retail price values.

So it seems that the 2008 with 67000 miles, is still worth over $3 to $4 Gs more than the 2006 with 20000 miles.

So market value wise, the 2006 is definitely NOT worth the $10G more than the 2008 despite the mileage difference.
Old 01-28-2019, 08:57 PM
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My tech (who just recently retired) told me he saw more issues with older, but extremely lower mileage cars. The plastics and rubber go bad or weaken over time.
Old 01-28-2019, 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by mjsporsche
I am biased as I own a 2008.

A 13 year old car with 20K miles is ok as long as it has been serviced extensively. I have seen some very low mileage cars with very minimal servicing. Also, there are some differences in the 2006 vs 2008. The HVAC control ***** are not subject to the sticky mess of the 2006. The starter wiring harness in the 2006 is a bit more problematic. All minor stuff but still stuff.

An 11 year old car that has miles but superb service history and is $20K less...…..I know where my vote would be.
It is $10K less, not $20K. But I didn't know about the little improvements in the 2008 vs 2006. I thought they were Identical. Any other differences worth mentionning???
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Originally Posted by Steph1
Gents, here's what I mean.

To your knowledge, is a 2006 C2 cab 5sp sport chrono with 20000 miles worth $10G more than a 2008 C2 cab 5sp with 67000 miles without sport chrono????

just trying to evaluate the impact of mileage on the value of a 997.

Year is one thing, but when you throw in the mileage in the equation on similarly equiped vehicles, where does the balance tip???
if you find a 5 speed....value would be through the roof! 😂
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Originally Posted by Petza914
Are you confusing the Sport Chrono Option and the Tiptronic Transmission - both cars are listed as 5sp, even though they should be called 6sp. which I assume to mean it's a Manual Transmission. If he's talking about a 5sp Tiptronic, then both cars are the same also, so no valuation difference comparing a MT in one to a Tiptronic.
No no, I am aware of what they are and was talking about the sport chrono clock on the dash and of course the system itself. I mentionned it cause it's one of the only differences in equipment.
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Originally Posted by Jeremy Hazeltine


if you find a 5 speed....value would be through the roof! 😂
Yeah my bad, by 5spd, I meant manual tranny... I know it is a 6spd. Just an old habit.
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I would go with the 67K miles car because I drive a lot and adding mile to a 20kmiles sample is … not efficient

My wife's 997 racks up 15k miles a year....
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Originally Posted by Steph1
Thanks for your input guys. I used a tool to evaluate the cars. It takes the year, model, equipment and mileage in consideration and gives both wholesale and retail price values.

So it seems that the 2008 with 67000 miles, is still worth over $3 to $4 Gs more than the 2006 with 20000 miles.

So market value wise, the 2006 is definitely NOT worth the $10G more than the 2008 despite the mileage difference.
I would agree, But, evaluation tools are real world. Rennlist members and other Porsche enthusiasts have a different view. If you want to see examples of how unrealistic estimates can be, check this thread: https://rennlist.com/forums/997-foru...-high-bid.html. Mine was one of the first guesses... I missed by $750. My point is that even though the 2006 is worth less in the real world, don't expect the owner to budge much.
Old 01-29-2019, 02:31 PM
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What would be the end game when/if you sell? . That is, say you put on 35k miles over the next few years on the 2006 for a total of 55k miles - what do you think you will get for it (plus probably easier to sell a car with 55k miles) vs trying to sell the 2008 with over 100k miles in a few years. Can you post the actual asking prices of the two so as to form a qualitative relevance analysis with respect to values down the road?


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