Fined

A sports car with the same weight distribution, curb weight, and size as my 997.2.... I'd have to consider it carefully as a third (possibly even 2nd if the performance warrants it) sports car. I don't own sedans and my 997.2 is the largest/heaviest car I have. Any loss of agility or sporting feel is a nonstarter. But if it checks the boxes as far as curb weight, weight distribution, size, and sporting feel/agility.. it'd be hard to argue with in addition to a traditional sports car.

nick2413

Doesn't it take 10 mins to engage (or warm up batteries) for ludicrous mode? I wonder how much 'real world' use this has, or if it's just a gimmick.

doclouie

andy92782

C4SDayton

Your point might be well taken by some. The German sedans of yesteryear I would like to pass through my garage, even if for a little while, were all more analog. I never aspired to have an S4 or M3 with an automatic. I guess the more reasonable comparison is to a new S4 or M3. I haven't driven them, nor a Model 3, so all I can say honestly is the Model 3, for me, is just butt ugly. If the model 3 performs at a high level, it needs to look the part. It would be one thing if it cost 35k in real life without government handouts or a two year wait, but it costs more like 55k+ for the performance and range people talk about, and when people drive them in real life in 25 degree winter weather they need to get somewhere close to quoted range, like within 25%.

tomc_mets

This is my worry being out here in flyover country and liking to take long road trips. How long does it take to refuel? I was told 30 - 45 min was typical. If so, that'd be a major pain.

As for the future, we have no idea, just that it'll be different. By now, we should have all been driving nuclear powered hover cars based on all the old news reels. I just came back from a consulting gig with a Fortune 10 company and with all their resources, it's clear that they have no idea what their disruptors will be even in their own narrow market 10 years down the road.

It's going to be an interesting ride though...T

aaks38

I too recently drove a Model 3 AWD that ran 0-60 in 3.4seconds, and that car was around 70k. While the torque is impressive and I was nauseated from being thrown back!, the driving dynamics weren't on par with my E90 M3, a very appliance like car similar to a Honda or Toyota.. No question the electric cars can blow away most high end sports cars in 0-60 but Tesla hasnt yet got the driving dynamics nailed like Porsche or BMW. I also think most of us are from an older generation whom grew up on IC engine cars will have a hard time adopting the electric cars unlike the millennials.

pkalhan

I actually purchased a Tesla Model 3 (took delivery on Oct 3, 2018). I got basic black, white interior, with dual motors...I love the car. When at a stop light, I love stomping on the accelerator and just shooting off the line. Would make me giggle like a little girl. Took time to get used to the regen brakes and the deathly quiet interior. I got it because I hate, Hate, HATE going to the gas station...didn't really get it for the environment. Charging at home is so convenient. My set up charges my car 30 miles for every our its plugged it. That said, I am still trying to talk my wife to allow me to get a summer weekend car which is why I am on this forum. I am wanting a used Cayman, Boxster, or a 2008 to 2013 BMW M3 coupe. We will see if I succeed lol.

Oh...looks are subjective ....I like the way my car looks...blacked out the chrome and tinted the windows it looks sweet to me. I also did not have any defects. Only thing that sucks is that it is my first black car and I live in Pittsburgh so in the winter, it get dirty very easily.

Slc801

ADias

If one is after a dragster and behave like a teenager between red lights get a Tesla. If one seeks proper driving dynamics on a circuitous road get something else.

pkalhan

pkalhan

Chicane5

Interesting perspective. I agree that there will undoubtedly be a revolution in the fundamentals of transport - be it the shift away from ICEs, pervasive use of autonomous vehicles etc etc, but for me I wasn't sold.

On a recent vacation to Palm Springs my buddy and I did a car swap - he'd just bought a Model S, so one morning on a run to the grocery store to get BBQ supplies he drove my 997 C4S (MT) and I took his Tesla. Within about 5 minutes I thought I was going to throw up from all the regenerative braking. I felt motion sick and unnerved from the eerie quiet of the acceleration.

Once we got to the store my buddy was grinning like an idiot from having ragged my 911, and I was looking pale and headed for a bathroom.

I would buy one for my wife and get some novelty from driving it myself occasionally, but not for me as a DD.

HenryPcar

Doomsday preacher.

sandwedge

Lots of impressive things about these cars and I'm sure they'll eventually come out in all kinds of different renditions. So in anticipation of that, what did the exhaust sound like for those of us who wants a sports car to sound like one? Anywhere close to a GT3?