So, you think you are a TPMS expert – advice please
#1
Rennlist Member
Thread Starter
So, you think you are a TPMS expert – advice please
Yes, lot's of similar threads, but little definitive answers in them............................
Car = 2009 Carrera S.
Original TPMS system
TPMS error present (low pressure) after every power cycle, despite re-setting / re-learning every drive.
PIWIS scan indicates;
1. All txmitter batteries = 0 months life left
2. Txmitters Not Present?
3. Gauge display indicates pressures, (inaccurately)
Makes sense that batteries are flat after nearly 10 years.
But I don’t understand why PIWIS indicates Not Present AND gauge still indicates pressures for each wheel.
Path forward seems to be R&R 4 wheel txmitters and hope the system recognizes / learns them.
Is there anything I can do to help ensure that the recognition / learning process occurs?
Thanks
Craig
Car = 2009 Carrera S.
Original TPMS system
TPMS error present (low pressure) after every power cycle, despite re-setting / re-learning every drive.
PIWIS scan indicates;
1. All txmitter batteries = 0 months life left
2. Txmitters Not Present?
3. Gauge display indicates pressures, (inaccurately)
Makes sense that batteries are flat after nearly 10 years.
But I don’t understand why PIWIS indicates Not Present AND gauge still indicates pressures for each wheel.
Path forward seems to be R&R 4 wheel txmitters and hope the system recognizes / learns them.
Is there anything I can do to help ensure that the recognition / learning process occurs?
Thanks
Craig
#4
Race Car
Replace your TPMS, they won’t live forever.
#5
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Thread Starter
Thanks for all the "helpful" replies.
Please note the bolded line above in my request.
Is there anything I can do to help ensure that the recognition / learning process occurs?
I have read of multiple instances where people just "replace the txmiters", but additional adaptation is required.
That's why I"m asking.
Thanks
Please note the bolded line above in my request.
Is there anything I can do to help ensure that the recognition / learning process occurs?
I have read of multiple instances where people just "replace the txmiters", but additional adaptation is required.
That's why I"m asking.
Thanks
#6
I haven't heard of anyone replacing the stems and still not working. I am sure there are some out there. At the very least it sounds you need to replace them. If it was me, I would buy 4 new stems, install them and get your car to recognize them. Sorry If I am not much help if you are DIY. …. So if I was in your shoes, I would buy new TPMSs, install them and go from there. You can get good prices from https://tpms247.com/.
#7
Originally Posted by cgfen
Is there anything I can do to help ensure that the recognition / learning process occurs?
I have read of multiple instances where people just "replace the txmiters", but additional adaptation is required.
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I bought a set of Huf RDE011V21 from Tirerack in 2017 because they were direct fit and didn’t any programming. The car recognized them before I got to the end of the block.
http://products.intellisens.com/Deta...ails/RDE011V21
I looked at the Huf site this morning, and they’re now listing the RDE022V21 as the direct replacement / no programming version to install:
http://products.intellisens.com/Deta...ails/RDE022V21
If you’re willing to go with sensors that require programming, they seem to be cheaper and other people have reported success (e.g. I see the Huf UVS2000 mentioned a few times). Here’s a few threads to read:
https://rennlist.com/forums/997-foru...ment-tpms.html
https://rennlist.com/forums/997-foru...w-tires-2.html
As regards your question Is there anything I can do to help ensure that the recognition / learning process occurs?
The only thing I can think of is to keep all other TPMS devices away from the car when you put on the new ones.
Karl.
http://products.intellisens.com/Deta...ails/RDE011V21
I looked at the Huf site this morning, and they’re now listing the RDE022V21 as the direct replacement / no programming version to install:
http://products.intellisens.com/Deta...ails/RDE022V21
If you’re willing to go with sensors that require programming, they seem to be cheaper and other people have reported success (e.g. I see the Huf UVS2000 mentioned a few times). Here’s a few threads to read:
https://rennlist.com/forums/997-foru...ment-tpms.html
https://rennlist.com/forums/997-foru...w-tires-2.html
As regards your question Is there anything I can do to help ensure that the recognition / learning process occurs?
The only thing I can think of is to keep all other TPMS devices away from the car when you put on the new ones.
Karl.
#10
Look, the TPM sensors in the wheels have batteries. They are rated for 5-7 years. You already admitted they are original close to 10 years old and the PIWIS is saying 0 months left. Since PIWIS is connected to the car it already confirms the RDK control box is working properly. Without working batteries in the wheel sensors there is ZERO data sent from the wheels to the antennas in the wheel wells, and ultimately back up to the RDK control box in near the brake master cylinder.
Stop over thinking this one. Your TPM batteries are dead. Buy new sensors and move on.
Stop over thinking this one. Your TPM batteries are dead. Buy new sensors and move on.
#11
[QUOTE=semicycler;15448634
Stop over thinking this one. Your TPM batteries are dead. Buy new sensors and move on.[/QUOTE]
Great advice.. It's Occam's razor
I'm on my 3rd long term Porsche with TPMS, and find the batteries tend to last way longer than expected, but when they are overdue you get intermittent errors such as you are seeing.
Stop over thinking this one. Your TPM batteries are dead. Buy new sensors and move on.[/QUOTE]
Great advice.. It's Occam's razor
I'm on my 3rd long term Porsche with TPMS, and find the batteries tend to last way longer than expected, but when they are overdue you get intermittent errors such as you are seeing.
#12
Rennlist Member
Thread Starter
I haven't heard of anyone replacing the stems and still not working. I am sure there are some out there. At the very least it sounds you need to replace them. If it was me, I would buy 4 new stems, install them and get your car to recognize them. Sorry If I am not much help if you are DIY. …. So if I was in your shoes, I would buy new TPMSs, install them and go from there. You can get good prices from https://tpms247.com/.
I bought a set of Huf RDE011V21 from Tirerack in 2017 because they were direct fit and didn’t any programming. The car recognized them before I got to the end of the block.
http://products.intellisens.com/Deta...ails/RDE011V21
I looked at the Huf site this morning, and they’re now listing the RDE022V21 as the direct replacement / no programming version to install:
http://products.intellisens.com/Deta...ails/RDE022V21
If you’re willing to go with sensors that require programming, they seem to be cheaper and other people have reported success (e.g. I see the Huf UVS2000 mentioned a few times). Here’s a few threads to read:
https://rennlist.com/forums/997-foru...ment-tpms.html
https://rennlist.com/forums/997-foru...w-tires-2.html
As regards your question Is there anything I can do to help ensure that the recognition / learning process occurs?
The only thing I can think of is to keep all other TPMS devices away from the car when you put on the new ones.
Karl.
http://products.intellisens.com/Deta...ails/RDE011V21
I looked at the Huf site this morning, and they’re now listing the RDE022V21 as the direct replacement / no programming version to install:
http://products.intellisens.com/Deta...ails/RDE022V21
If you’re willing to go with sensors that require programming, they seem to be cheaper and other people have reported success (e.g. I see the Huf UVS2000 mentioned a few times). Here’s a few threads to read:
https://rennlist.com/forums/997-foru...ment-tpms.html
https://rennlist.com/forums/997-foru...w-tires-2.html
As regards your question Is there anything I can do to help ensure that the recognition / learning process occurs?
The only thing I can think of is to keep all other TPMS devices away from the car when you put on the new ones.
Karl.
I asked because several years ago I bought replacement OEM sensors for an 07 Turbo and they needed additional adaptation.
I'm going to buy 4 of the HUF txmitters, have them installed, and see what happens.
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Former Vendor
#14
Replace them all. Service life is stated as something like 4-5 years.
https://www.oewheelsllc.com/Huf-UVS2...iABEgKOfPD_BwE
You should otherwise turn them all off at dealer and forget them. Buy an analog gauge.
https://www.oewheelsllc.com/Huf-UVS2...iABEgKOfPD_BwE
You should otherwise turn them all off at dealer and forget them. Buy an analog gauge.
#15
Drifting
Most of the issues you read about on this forum where people have to do some kind of programming (or think they need to) are just situations where they bought the wrong sensors.
On an ‘09, when you buy the right ones, your car will recognize them within a mile or so on your first drive.
Most of the confusion around TPMS on these cars comes from two issues:
1) Porsche changed sensors occasionally, sometimes there are two or three sensors in one generation of car.
2) Many of the vendor sites have confusing or sometimes just plain wrong application information. It’s easy to get steered to the wrong sensor.
I have an ‘09. I’ve ordered the wrong sensor before because the listing on a site was wrong. But at least in ‘09, once you get it right, the car doesn’t need any help picking them up.
Also, you don’t need to spend hundreds for these. I, and lots of people here, run discount aftermarket TPMS and have had no issues with them.
On an ‘09, when you buy the right ones, your car will recognize them within a mile or so on your first drive.
Most of the confusion around TPMS on these cars comes from two issues:
1) Porsche changed sensors occasionally, sometimes there are two or three sensors in one generation of car.
2) Many of the vendor sites have confusing or sometimes just plain wrong application information. It’s easy to get steered to the wrong sensor.
I have an ‘09. I’ve ordered the wrong sensor before because the listing on a site was wrong. But at least in ‘09, once you get it right, the car doesn’t need any help picking them up.
Also, you don’t need to spend hundreds for these. I, and lots of people here, run discount aftermarket TPMS and have had no issues with them.