no "brrp" on PDK downshift
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no "brrp" on PDK downshift
My new to me 2010 99.2 PDK arrived 2 weeks ago. Impeccable condition from a PCA owner, with 54 K, PDK, sport chrono and other nice options.
My 4th 911 from 964, 996, 997.1, all manual transmissions.
But there is no great sound on downshifting,- just instant gear change.
(I have been daily driving an Audi S4 with their version of dual clutch, which does a little "brrp", not to mention the Ferrari with F1 tranny that i rented for a half hour in Maranello!)
Is there anything i can do get get more fun/sound/ feel from this car?
thanks
bob
My 4th 911 from 964, 996, 997.1, all manual transmissions.
But there is no great sound on downshifting,- just instant gear change.
(I have been daily driving an Audi S4 with their version of dual clutch, which does a little "brrp", not to mention the Ferrari with F1 tranny that i rented for a half hour in Maranello!)
Is there anything i can do get get more fun/sound/ feel from this car?
thanks
bob
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R u in Sport Plus mode and manually shifting? Do you have PSE (sport exhaust)?
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have not gone there yet. what i have read it is that it only suitable for track. Our CT club does DE's at Lime Rock, but i will have to wait until next spring. Are you suggesting that i CAN use it on the street?
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Yes. Just make sure your oil is up to 180. Manually shift before redline.
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Your car doesn't make that noise because it was built before all the manufacturers determined that the general car buying population would want a car that made these ridiculously artificial sounding pops and burbles.
#7
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I have the full FabSpeed intake and exhaust with a custom tune on my C2S PDK and it is always making "happy" sounds. Especially, in manual mode.
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#9
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No real need for S+, just sport, normal Pasm, go fast and push up on the paddle and hold it: you'll get all the brrrp you ever want.
The PDK will not downshift if the revs are too high so no worries. Go for it!
The PDK will not downshift if the revs are too high so no worries. Go for it!
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i believe he is referring to the sound made from rev matching vs the fake pops and burbles from the exhaust that the newer 991 and bmw M cars produce. If this is the case, I think he has to be in Sport at a minimum. Full disclosure: I don’t own a PDK nor have I ever driven one.
#11
The PDK rev matches so exactly that it is virtually too smooth. It even lets you do ridiculous downshifts in the middle of a hard driven turn without upsetting the car. And the shifts are fast. To that end the throttle blip is easy to miss.
Don't be afraid of Sport or Sport Plus. They are both very suitable for street use. Plus revs bigger before shifting, but if you are manually shifting then you are in full control. Plus also locks out 7th since this is an overdrive that only slows you down (max speed arrives in 6th and in all cases acceleration is quicker in 6th than in 7th).
Fister for a start on the exhaust. Center delete if you then want more.
Drive. Experiment. Enjoy.
Don't be afraid of Sport or Sport Plus. They are both very suitable for street use. Plus revs bigger before shifting, but if you are manually shifting then you are in full control. Plus also locks out 7th since this is an overdrive that only slows you down (max speed arrives in 6th and in all cases acceleration is quicker in 6th than in 7th).
Fister for a start on the exhaust. Center delete if you then want more.
Drive. Experiment. Enjoy.
#12
Three Wheelin'
PSE + Center muffler bypass on my GTS (PDK) and it does have some burbles and popping going on. Its nice, a bit understated for my taste. With just PSE I didn't have much of anything including exhaust sound. The center muffler bypass and PSE valving set to always on (just disconnected the valve closure) is what got it to have some nice burbles and popping.
#14
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Sport plus in auto mode is for track since it holds the gears to redline. Sport plus in manual mode is no different than sport or normal mode in manual mode, just much quicker. I use sport plus all the time in manual mode. As for exhaust sound, do you have PSE and just as importantly, do you still have the center muffler on the car? It ruins the exhaust even with the PSE. I have PSE and Sharkwerks x-over pipes instead of the OEM center muffler and get all kinds of pops and gurgles during both up and down shifts.
#15
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PSE + Center muffler bypass on my GTS (PDK) and it does have some burbles and popping going on. Its nice, a bit understated for my taste. With just PSE I didn't have much of anything including exhaust sound. The center muffler bypass and PSE valving set to always on (just disconnected the valve closure) is what got it to have some nice burbles and popping.