911-997

Hey rennlisters,

I am looking for some feedback on why my car that I posted for sale few months ago not selling or getting serious inquires? Other than the high mileage, car is really clean with not a single problem and even got recntly a PPI report with flying colors. I understand that PDK is not the cup of tea for everyone. I bought the car A LOT more than what I am selling it for 1 year ago. I am not sure if I am overpricing the car? I am thinking next step to go get appraisal form Carmax and few dealers in area.

Thanks in advance

rickdogg82

You need to make the new reduced price more prominently placed; at the beginning of the ad perhaps.

cgaites

groovzilla

High miles + Automatic transmission = Low interest - Most banks or credit unions won't finance cars w/over 100K miles

The schooled Porsche buyer wants a car he can drive and then sell with less than 90K miles so he can re-coupe most of his investment
I wouldn't pay more than $26-$27K for your car and that's probably the market value if you want to sell it

sandwedge

Just my 2c but the PDK is a non-issue here. Porsche never shares any statistics on anything but I've seen estimates that at least 80% of all 997.2's sold were PDK cars so it sure seems to be the preferred transmission since it was introduced. Prior to the PDK those numbers were almost the exact opposite with about 80% manuals and 20% or less with TIP. I agree with those who point to the mileage/financing as the culprit. People shopping for Porsches in the $30K range are obviously on a budget and probably don't have $30K sitting around in a bank account. Car looks really clean and with some patience it will sell at $30K. If it was mine I wouldn't include a $3,400 Tubi exhaust at that price.

Edit: Just came across this summary of 997.2 coupe's sold since 2010. The red stack for each year represents cars sold with manual transmission. The blue, total 997.2 coupe cars sold. So the difference between red and blue represents 997.2's sold with PDK. Low interest? The total numbers for each year look very low so I don't know how accurate this is but it does reflect what I've seen so far with respect to manual vs. PDK.

Patrick3000

dgjks6

I really have no idea, but at 30K I would be all over it.

Do you have the original steering wheel and exhaust? Maybe put those on.

Did you list it on eBay, Craigslist, auto trader, etc?

FWIW, KBB value was $28,000

JW911

Looks like a nice car for a good price. Are you only advertising on rennlist? If so, that is your problem. Very small audience. Post it in cars.com or cargurus. Also you should list all your options. PDK is not your problem. Also I agree with previous poster about the reduced price. It is easy to overlook with that 35k price up top. Last thing. This sentence doesn't really make sense to me and should be deleted: "You can tell by condition of the car for its mileage."

Steve 911

Petza914

An 09 997 2 with PDK for under $35,000 is a great price. Honestly, I would close the current For Sale thread and start a new one to eliminate your posts in the ad where you say serious buyers only and to get your financing lined up before contacting me, as they leave a bad impression. In the new ad, just say relisted due to previous buyer not being able to secure financing to complete the sale, and leave it at that.

Next, subscribe to the 997 forum for a daily update of all the new posts. Every single day there is a new post by someone looking to buy their first 911 asking for advice. Reply in these posts that yours is for sale and include the link to your for sale ad.

Lastly, raise the asking price to $39,000 or $42,000 and be willing to take what you originally wanted in the ad of less than $35. One of the problems is buyers may not believe the ad is legit because of the under $35k asking price for a 997.2.

When it sells in the high $30s I only want half the difference for my consulting fee and you keep the other half 😉

shekmark

There is so much talk of a manual trans being more sought after on these cars ( on Rennlist at least), but KBB and other sites have the PDK cars at 3K dollars higher for both trade and private sale! For the heck of it I had Auto Lenders give me a buy estimate on my 911 last week. They came out, looked it over. Looked for comps ( which there are few) , and offered me 39K. Are you kidding! I have my car on Rennlist for $51,900 based on what everyone says here. I think your car is very nice and a good value at 30K, but Steve911 is right on the money, I think. Financing could be tough so they will use home equity loans or similar instead of traditional car loans. Maybe lower to 32K and keep at it. Nice car!.

yelcab

$30K is good, it will sell

gtvr6

I would adjust the ad so the reduced price is more visible.

I'm going to be honest with you, I personally think the reason it's not selling is the timing - heading into the winter, I'm thinking about putting my car into storage and throwing snow tires on my daily. Not too many people are thinking about buying a sports car this time of the year (the smart ones are since they might get a deal).

I think you need to be patient. The mileage is high but it's a 997.2 with no IMS worries - it will sell but it will take time.

Good luck

captainbaker

Agree with all the above. Timing/location is your biggest issue. Winter is on your doorstep and sports cars always dip in price during the cold months in northern climates. Cargurus and Ebay is the best exposure for the buck. I would put it up on both with your pics, description and put up a picture of the PPI as well. IMHO $30k is a fair price and be prepared to adjust depending on the response.

Mike Murphy