The big debate: sell the 997...?
#31
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Just for reference, until recently I was always of the thought that I'd sell my 997 before I ever thought of getting rid of the air cooled.
As of now, I think that's changed. As "cool" as the older cars are, the 997 is just so much more capable in every respect. Plus, as it's aging I'm liking it even more.
Also, the other day I was just looking at a new GT3 and my wife said "why don't you just sell the other two and get one of those". I stopped for a second before thinking it's not worth the trade - especially when considering trading two cars that are paid for one that costs almost $200k .
As of now, I think that's changed. As "cool" as the older cars are, the 997 is just so much more capable in every respect. Plus, as it's aging I'm liking it even more.
Also, the other day I was just looking at a new GT3 and my wife said "why don't you just sell the other two and get one of those". I stopped for a second before thinking it's not worth the trade - especially when considering trading two cars that are paid for one that costs almost $200k .
#32
Although the new GT3, 6 speed manual for me, is VERY tempting
#33
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If the interior was just reassembly and a little troubleshooting, then yes, my estimate was pretty conservative but with the 928 I did lots of customizations that took time - auxiliary fusebox to power the aftermarket electrics, like auto-dimming mirror with Homelink, powered FM antenna, 1,000 watt stereo with the rear A/C console customized to house the amp, 3-way components in the front, 2-way composites in the rear and a sub, USB charging ports in the dash, turned the ashtray area into a gauge holder for the wideband O2 and boost gauges, 997 seats, custom Corian fuse panel cover, CF inlays for the Gauge cluster with aluminum trim rings, led lighting, electric locks, etc, etc, etc so all that stuff takes design though and fabrication time.
There was other stuff I had to fix and fabricate too - firewall to separate the passenger compartment from the trunk, remove and reinstall the roof to get it weathertight and sitting correctly so the windows would seal up against it, finish assembly of all the lighting, etc etc etc
Funny thing is I was looking for a turnkey 928 when I stumbled across this one and it just spoke to me. I envisioned what it would look like when it was done and just had to do it, probably very similar to what you're feeling about an IROC build 911.
But, I wouldn't sell my 997 to replace it with this type of older car. As an add-on, it's great and a completely different driving experience - a big v8 GT with soft top, no electronic nannies, no cats - loud and smelly - but a replacement for the 997, it's not.
Last edited by Petza914; 09-12-2018 at 01:22 AM.
#34
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@pete - it listed for $35k and he dropped it to $33k a few days ago.
Wouldn't you know it, one of the guys who put an offer on my car emailed me tonight asking for an update and saying he's ready to go whenever I say yes. Ugh. Feel bad for stringing him along.
Wouldn't you know it, one of the guys who put an offer on my car emailed me tonight asking for an update and saying he's ready to go whenever I say yes. Ugh. Feel bad for stringing him along.
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Jesus. Many of us here do at least some work on our cars ourselves but this is so far beyond my paygrade in the DYI department that I don't know how you got all that put together again. No matter what manuals or other directions you had available to you. Looks like the car is in your garage so I assume you did it yourself.
I had a lot of the mechanical stuff done when I bought it by 928 Motorsports, in fact I shipped it straight from the Seller to them. They did the supercharger install, brakes, suspension and Corvette Z06 6-speed transmission upgrade.
I redid the air intake to be a cold air system pulling from the passenger fender well, the powder coated intake spider legs, and the other stuff under the hood related to the heat exchanger.
Last edited by Petza914; 09-20-2018 at 05:17 PM.
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Bingo... I feel your pain... Even though I know many of us could possibly afford to do it, It is still tough to imagine trading 2 great Porsche's that have been paid off for years and cheap to insure, and still have to finance an additional $100K car payment !! YIKES!!
Although the new GT3, 6 speed manual for me, is VERY tempting
Although the new GT3, 6 speed manual for me, is VERY tempting
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My only suggestion would be to start with a pretty decent car, or just buy an outlaw that is complete already. It's probably cheaper in the long run.
#40
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Gents - love the feedback. Always good advice. And Pete, based on your reaction I think you understand my dilemma :-)
As for the Miami blue '82 IROC build, here is the original build thread on Pelican and Youtube video. The guy did a great job.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsc...n-journey.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rcj1HxAAsNI
As for the Miami blue '82 IROC build, here is the original build thread on Pelican and Youtube video. The guy did a great job.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsc...n-journey.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rcj1HxAAsNI
I used follow a lot of the Toyota Supra builds "righting the wrongs" to the 1500HP Real Street/1320 builds and was dead set on making my Supra an ultimate monster. I get it, it's part passion and part stimulation to be able to take something and turn it into something amazing. That's what makes us car guys tick. Most women will never understand why we're in the garage till 2am. I know my wife absolutely dislikes it when I wrench in the garage because I never answer my phone. My excuse is that I'm in a contorted position or the 90's Hip Hop was blasting too loud for me to hear my phone. lol
You have to factor a lot of things, not just only money. If you're a one man gang, you're going to need more than luck. If you have a trusted shop, enough free time, NO KIDS, sponsorship, hook ups then the build will be much easier.
What's it going to be...
#41
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Ryan - thanks! Send over photos when you are finished.
Question: do you think its practical to convert a track car back to a street car? I've seen a few selling below 40k that look like they have 100k in the engine and suspension alone.
Ps - Did you sell your 997S for a Gt3...? I thought you just bought the 997 a few months ago.
Question: do you think its practical to convert a track car back to a street car? I've seen a few selling below 40k that look like they have 100k in the engine and suspension alone.
Ps - Did you sell your 997S for a Gt3...? I thought you just bought the 997 a few months ago.
#43
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Ryan - thanks! Send over photos when you are finished.
Question: do you think its practical to convert a track car back to a street car? I've seen a few selling below 40k that look like they have 100k in the engine and suspension alone.
Ps - Did you sell your 997S for a Gt3...? I thought you just bought the 997 a few months ago.
Question: do you think its practical to convert a track car back to a street car? I've seen a few selling below 40k that look like they have 100k in the engine and suspension alone.
Ps - Did you sell your 997S for a Gt3...? I thought you just bought the 997 a few months ago.
I had my 997 for about 4-5 months and found an incredible deal on a red GT3 that I could't refuse. I had a buddy who wanted my 997 so it all worked out! I couldn't be happier.
#44
My 2c. If you can sell your car for more than you bought it for, take the money and run like hell.
From what I can tell, you're in a .1. If you can't locate an air-cooled and resort to another 997, use the proceeds to move to a .2. That is the true keeper. No offense to our .1 brethren.
From what I can tell, you're in a .1. If you can't locate an air-cooled and resort to another 997, use the proceeds to move to a .2. That is the true keeper. No offense to our .1 brethren.
#45
I keep looking at track cars to street options as well - like the V8 powered Rx7 that was on BAT recently. I think though the 997.2 Turbo may be the best of all worlds. Even spent an hour considering the 2005-6 GT40 this morning after seeing DeMuro's latest video but a 2011 Turbo is just as fast, more practical, less attention, half the cost, and has better overall look feel then the GT40. Please Save Me also a P+. The Ford is barren.