Tire recommendations
08-01-2018, 01:11 PM
#16
When Michelin dropped the ball on the rear tires for the C4S, I went with Bridgestone S-04 and I am very happy with them. I do not track my car, but for normal driving (even spirited), these tires are wonderful, very quiet, comfortable and almost half the price of the Michelin. Being French, it was hard to give up on Michelin but they were a bunch of "trou-du-cul" to not produce the C4S rear tires any longer.
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08-01-2018, 01:29 PM
#17
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I don't know as that's never been much of a concern of mine with my modified exhausts, intakes, and motors, but I do remember thinking my Michelins were unusually loud and the tires were quieter when I first installed the Nittos. It's hard to know if that was from the Michelins being worn and the Nittos being new or due to the tread design. With a 305 tires on the rear of these cars, they all thump over bridge joints and such and I have a full racing suspension in my car without any rubber bushings anymore, so they're probably even louder and transmit for surface irregularity noise up through the chassis, none of which bothers me - exhaust drone bothers me, squeaky interior trim bothers me, the other stuff, not so much as it's all about the drive and ultimate feel and performance.
08-01-2018, 02:41 PM
#18
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I have the S04's and really like them. They are much quieter than the Pirelli's that were on the car and I track the car about 4 weekends per summer and I don't know how I could ask more of the tires based on their longevity and price.
08-01-2018, 09:40 PM
#20
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You guys aren't making this easy. Here is the unofficial Poll so far.
S04 4
MPSS 3 (discontinued)
MPS4S 3
Conti EC 3
Nitto Invo 1
Hankook Evo 1
Michelin is claiming to get longer life out of the PS4S's but won't say how much. I wonder if they will last longer.
S04 4
MPSS 3 (discontinued)
MPS4S 3
Conti EC 3
Nitto Invo 1
Hankook Evo 1
Michelin is claiming to get longer life out of the PS4S's but won't say how much. I wonder if they will last longer.
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08-01-2018, 10:28 PM
#21
I am a Michelin fan. Ran them on my AMG and had to order some today for the rear of my 997.2.
Plus they are the only top brand manufacturer to offer a wear warranty (that I know of) on a performance tire
Plus they are the only top brand manufacturer to offer a wear warranty (that I know of) on a performance tire
08-03-2018, 09:32 AM
#22
I will try to help. Went from mpss to s04. I prefered the mpss. Next time I'm going back to mp4s
better ride quality and quieter.
s04 are great as well. Good enough that I'm waiting for them to wear out before switching back to mp4s
if you read a lot of threads the majority of people prefer the mp4s for spirited street use....
good luck
better ride quality and quieter.
s04 are great as well. Good enough that I'm waiting for them to wear out before switching back to mp4s
if you read a lot of threads the majority of people prefer the mp4s for spirited street use....
good luck
08-03-2018, 10:07 AM
#23
The PS4S is "the" summer tire to have for street use. Its quiet, has a mileage warranty, has extremely good wet and dry performance, is very predictable, etc etc. Its going to win the competitions against all the other max performance summer tires.
Stepping up to a tire like an RE71R that is really more of a streetable track tire is going to get you better all out dry grip, turn-in, etc but they are LOUD tires. They literally sound like those pickups that have mudder tires on them. They are not good in standing water either.
A fantastic budget max performance summer tire is the Hankook v12 evo2. This will get you 80% of the performance of the PS4S. Its a quiet tire. It has excellent wet and dry grip, is also very predictable. It gives up slightly in responsiveness (stiffness) to the PS4S and slightly in ultimate grip. Its a great tire for the money.
Mike
Stepping up to a tire like an RE71R that is really more of a streetable track tire is going to get you better all out dry grip, turn-in, etc but they are LOUD tires. They literally sound like those pickups that have mudder tires on them. They are not good in standing water either.
A fantastic budget max performance summer tire is the Hankook v12 evo2. This will get you 80% of the performance of the PS4S. Its a quiet tire. It has excellent wet and dry grip, is also very predictable. It gives up slightly in responsiveness (stiffness) to the PS4S and slightly in ultimate grip. Its a great tire for the money.
Mike
08-04-2018, 02:28 PM
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08-04-2018, 03:05 PM
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Yeah, I think I'm leaning towards the PS4S. I read some articles that said Michelin was confident that their customers would get even better mileage than the warranty offered.
08-06-2018, 03:37 PM
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The PS4S is "the" summer tire to have for street use. Its quiet, has a mileage warranty, has extremely good wet and dry performance, is very predictable, etc etc. Its going to win the competitions against all the other max performance summer tires.
Stepping up to a tire like an RE71R that is really more of a streetable track tire is going to get you better all out dry grip, turn-in, etc but they are LOUD tires. They literally sound like those pickups that have mudder tires on them. They are not good in standing water either.
A fantastic budget max performance summer tire is the Hankook v12 evo2. This will get you 80% of the performance of the PS4S. Its a quiet tire. It has excellent wet and dry grip, is also very predictable. It gives up slightly in responsiveness (stiffness) to the PS4S and slightly in ultimate grip. Its a great tire for the money.
Mike
Stepping up to a tire like an RE71R that is really more of a streetable track tire is going to get you better all out dry grip, turn-in, etc but they are LOUD tires. They literally sound like those pickups that have mudder tires on them. They are not good in standing water either.
A fantastic budget max performance summer tire is the Hankook v12 evo2. This will get you 80% of the performance of the PS4S. Its a quiet tire. It has excellent wet and dry grip, is also very predictable. It gives up slightly in responsiveness (stiffness) to the PS4S and slightly in ultimate grip. Its a great tire for the money.
Mike
08-06-2018, 03:50 PM
#28
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A fantastic budget max performance summer tire is the Hankook v12 evo2. This will get you 80% of the performance of the PS4S. Its a quiet tire. It has excellent wet and dry grip, is also very predictable. It gives up slightly in responsiveness (stiffness) to the PS4S and slightly in ultimate grip. Its a great tire for the money.
Mike
08-06-2018, 04:00 PM
#29
I vote for the Michelin Pilot Sport 4S, much quieter than the N spec tires, take a while to dial in, but they seem to like higher temps to really get the grip going. I feel like they don't have as crisp turn in or braking compared to the N spec, but they seem smoother in every way.
08-07-2018, 03:47 PM
#30
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If QUIET and street driving is most important, Bridgestone S04 is the best tire for you... many compare brand new tires versus old ones they took off and say they're quieter and better, which is not a surprise at all... but from anecdotes, and tire reviews of brand new tires, S04 seems to be the best for your applications, if you tracked, MPSS or Nitto, but for you S04 is definitely the right choice!