GTS: standard suspension upgrade for $3k budget
#16
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The car isn't going to look so weird with the weak offsets that you have to do something right away. You could sort the suspension first and do the wheels later. RS Spyder centerlocks look oddly too far inboard whether stock ride height or lowered on GTS, in my view. All the RS Spyder wheels fitted to 997 GTS have the same dimensions including offset, to my knowledge. I was so stoked on getting the car once I finally got it that I didn't get too worried about the wheels for a couple months. You might find the same.
#17
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love2drive, your GTS looks fairly low in the photo. Might your coupe have Sport PASM (030, perhaps P17)?
#18
I'd say springs and DSC module for a great bang for the buck and ROI, those PASM shocks really aren't that bad. If you'd like a more flush fitting set of wheels, I do have two lightly used sets of 997 wide body wheels (OZ and Forgeline) available : )
#19
My GTS has the sports suspension : SPASM. See build sheet. Other than Porsche short shift kit, Sharkwerks center muffler bypass, and clear side lamps, the car is stock.
For upkeep and maintenance, I'll probably get new suspension parts all round in the next year or two. At that time, I'll do research and consider my options but personally, for my taste aesthetically and with my driving..
I see no reason to do anything other than original Porsche parts for this car. For me, it's perfect!
dark, but you can kind of see the rear ride height here
zoom in on front height
here you can see both front and rear
For upkeep and maintenance, I'll probably get new suspension parts all round in the next year or two. At that time, I'll do research and consider my options but personally, for my taste aesthetically and with my driving..
I see no reason to do anything other than original Porsche parts for this car. For me, it's perfect!
dark, but you can kind of see the rear ride height here
zoom in on front height
here you can see both front and rear
#20
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My GTS has the sports suspension : SPASM. See build sheet. Other than Porsche short shift kit, Sharkwerks center muffler bypass, and clear side lamps, the car is stock.
For upkeep and maintenance, I'll probably get new suspension parts all round in the next year or two. At that time, I'll do research and consider my options but personally, for my taste aesthetically and with my driving..
I see no reason to do anything other than original Porsche parts for this car. For me, it's perfect!
For upkeep and maintenance, I'll probably get new suspension parts all round in the next year or two. At that time, I'll do research and consider my options but personally, for my taste aesthetically and with my driving..
I see no reason to do anything other than original Porsche parts for this car. For me, it's perfect!
Good thread OP Looking forward to what you further gather and decide.
#21
Hello GTS members
I apologize for bumping the old thread.
I can say that I have read in the last two weeks a lot of threads about B12, B6 and B16 and it confused me even more (when I found that there are other differences in the GTS with a center lock - like mine).
Well, I have a 2011 GTS (PDK) with PASM [although it looks SPASM (very strange)]. Everything is original in my car (front and rear control arms - everything is new from MEYLE and OEM). The only thing that remains old in the GTS is my shock absorbers and springs (original from 2011). Oh, front shock mounts are also new.
Long story short, I have a GTS with original suspension (PASM) and currently my rear shocks are leaking.
My first priority is of course B16, after that B12 and finally B6 (with original springs). I am not ruling out either possibility.
My GTS is mainly used for DD and driving in the mountains and track days on weekends. At the same time, I always prefer performance over comfort (but it's important to me that there are no noises, malfunctions or problems that will require him to replace additional suspension parts at this point). I fear the need to replace additional suspension parts and problems with the original CL wheels on the GTS.
I would be happy to receive the opinion regarding the installation of B16 or B12 or B6 in GTS, including:
1. When installing B16 PASM, do I also need to replace other parts in my GTS? Or is it plug and play?
2. Has anyone here with a GTS Coupe PDK CL installed B12 PASM? Are there problems with the alignment of the vehicle? Any problem with the center lock?
3. Does a B6 PASM on a GTS with original GTS springs change the height of the GTS - the same height or higher? Is there anyone here who drives a GTS in a B6 PASM with original springs? I would love to see a picture. I did not find it.
Your opinion (GTS owners) is very important to me.
Many thanks
Attached are some photos of my GTS (PASM PDK):
I apologize for bumping the old thread.
I can say that I have read in the last two weeks a lot of threads about B12, B6 and B16 and it confused me even more (when I found that there are other differences in the GTS with a center lock - like mine).
Well, I have a 2011 GTS (PDK) with PASM [although it looks SPASM (very strange)]. Everything is original in my car (front and rear control arms - everything is new from MEYLE and OEM). The only thing that remains old in the GTS is my shock absorbers and springs (original from 2011). Oh, front shock mounts are also new.
Long story short, I have a GTS with original suspension (PASM) and currently my rear shocks are leaking.
My first priority is of course B16, after that B12 and finally B6 (with original springs). I am not ruling out either possibility.
My GTS is mainly used for DD and driving in the mountains and track days on weekends. At the same time, I always prefer performance over comfort (but it's important to me that there are no noises, malfunctions or problems that will require him to replace additional suspension parts at this point). I fear the need to replace additional suspension parts and problems with the original CL wheels on the GTS.
I would be happy to receive the opinion regarding the installation of B16 or B12 or B6 in GTS, including:
1. When installing B16 PASM, do I also need to replace other parts in my GTS? Or is it plug and play?
2. Has anyone here with a GTS Coupe PDK CL installed B12 PASM? Are there problems with the alignment of the vehicle? Any problem with the center lock?
3. Does a B6 PASM on a GTS with original GTS springs change the height of the GTS - the same height or higher? Is there anyone here who drives a GTS in a B6 PASM with original springs? I would love to see a picture. I did not find it.
Your opinion (GTS owners) is very important to me.
Many thanks
Attached are some photos of my GTS (PASM PDK):
#22
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With your budget, this is my recommendation:
1) DSC Controller ~$1100 used or $1300 new
2) lowering springs. Eibach will lower about 1". H&R will be 1.25" but firmer. $350-400
3) good alignment $400
4) lighter wheels and good performance tires. Not many CL options but the OZ HLT wheels in GT2 spec will fit nicely. Check out Liste-Renn for pics of his setup.
5) use the rest of the money for PCA Driver Ed days. Driver mod.
If you can increase your budget, the next level would be GT3-spec front lower control arms ($1600) for more negative camber and a bigger 25mm rear sway bar ($325). These are the mods I did on my GTS (standard PASM) and there is a noticeable difference in handling. Next level beyond that is a set of high-quality coilovers for more adustability. Check out my build thread for details and more pics: https://rennlist.com/forums/997-foru...-thread-5.html
1) DSC Controller ~$1100 used or $1300 new
2) lowering springs. Eibach will lower about 1". H&R will be 1.25" but firmer. $350-400
3) good alignment $400
4) lighter wheels and good performance tires. Not many CL options but the OZ HLT wheels in GT2 spec will fit nicely. Check out Liste-Renn for pics of his setup.
5) use the rest of the money for PCA Driver Ed days. Driver mod.
If you can increase your budget, the next level would be GT3-spec front lower control arms ($1600) for more negative camber and a bigger 25mm rear sway bar ($325). These are the mods I did on my GTS (standard PASM) and there is a noticeable difference in handling. Next level beyond that is a set of high-quality coilovers for more adustability. Check out my build thread for details and more pics: https://rennlist.com/forums/997-foru...-thread-5.html
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#23
With your budget, this is my recommendation:
1) DSC Controller ~$1100 used or $1300 new
2) lowering springs. Eibach will lower about 1". H&R will be 1.25" but firmer. $350-400
3) good alignment $400
4) lighter wheels and good performance tires. Not many CL options but the OZ HLT wheels in GT2 spec will fit nicely. Check out Liste-Renn for pics of his setup.
5) use the rest of the money for PCA Driver Ed days. Driver mod.
If you can increase your budget, the next level would be GT3-spec front lower control arms ($1600) for more negative camber and a bigger 25mm rear sway bar ($325). These are the mods I did on my GTS (standard PASM) and there is a noticeable difference in handling. Next level beyond that is a set of high-quality coilovers for more adustability. Check out my build thread for details and more pics: https://rennlist.com/forums/997-foru...-thread-5.html
1) DSC Controller ~$1100 used or $1300 new
2) lowering springs. Eibach will lower about 1". H&R will be 1.25" but firmer. $350-400
3) good alignment $400
4) lighter wheels and good performance tires. Not many CL options but the OZ HLT wheels in GT2 spec will fit nicely. Check out Liste-Renn for pics of his setup.
5) use the rest of the money for PCA Driver Ed days. Driver mod.
If you can increase your budget, the next level would be GT3-spec front lower control arms ($1600) for more negative camber and a bigger 25mm rear sway bar ($325). These are the mods I did on my GTS (standard PASM) and there is a noticeable difference in handling. Next level beyond that is a set of high-quality coilovers for more adustability. Check out my build thread for details and more pics: https://rennlist.com/forums/997-foru...-thread-5.html
#24
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Not sure how miles are on the car, but when refreshing the suspension, install new rubber bits and bump stops in the spring/shock assemblies and consider new top mounts.
#25
Absolutely (: I have already purchased everything new (including PDK powerflex mount and Powerflex Rear Top Mount Isolator Bush and a few other things). Only the suspension system is still a question mark for me.
#26
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This is my GTS with complete OEM PASM setup (except a DSC box) with the OZ UL GT2-size wheels that @Busta Rib mentioned above:
Exercise eyes-wide-open caution before replacing an active suspension system with a passive one.
Exercise eyes-wide-open caution before replacing an active suspension system with a passive one.
Last edited by Liste-Renn; 09-14-2023 at 01:22 PM.
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