15 GTS or 17 S
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Thanks to all who responded to my query, your input is very helpful and valuable to me and you are a bunch of great guys,
Dealers are closed on Sunday, but I will test drive 991 tomorrow and decide accordingly, leaning towards the 911 S but will take best deal I can get.
As advised by Doug, I have opened same thread at the 991 forum.
Thanks again
Dealers are closed on Sunday, but I will test drive 991 tomorrow and decide accordingly, leaning towards the 911 S but will take best deal I can get.
As advised by Doug, I have opened same thread at the 991 forum.
Thanks again
#17
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The 2017 models seem to be loved by many: a base manual sold in 3 days over in the classified recently. If you are more of a power building, high revving NA lover, get the 2015. The 2017 base is faster though; with the sport exhaust, it certainly is a screamer. The S is even more insane: I almost pissed my pants the first time I punched one on an on-ramp. At the time I owned a 991.1 S and there simply was no comparison. The NA engine is great, but the turbo is also special, and it depends on what you drive and value in a car. If they are both used, I would expect to see similar pricing on either, although the S has likely fallen faster. GTS pricing has weakened recently as well however, so it is really tough to say which will end up holding value better.
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The general rule is: buy the newest and best condition car you can afford.
If you flip cars, the GTS will be further down on the depreciation curve and give you a better return on investment. Read that as a lower loss. Neither car is going to appreciate in the near future.
Both cars are going to be a cushy, civilized ride that is easy to live with and great street performance.
If you don't intend to track the car, give an autocross a try. It's the safest way to have fun with your car. You only need invest in a helmet (and they look great sitting in the back seat ;-) ).
If you flip cars, the GTS will be further down on the depreciation curve and give you a better return on investment. Read that as a lower loss. Neither car is going to appreciate in the near future.
Both cars are going to be a cushy, civilized ride that is easy to live with and great street performance.
If you don't intend to track the car, give an autocross a try. It's the safest way to have fun with your car. You only need invest in a helmet (and they look great sitting in the back seat ;-) ).
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You really need to drive both as power delivery is significantly different between the two cars. The 2017 S will feel faster everywhere. The GTS will sound better and may on occasion feel more rewarding to drive as you have to work the engine more to get the best out of it. The GTS will depreciate slower and then in 2-3 years when you go to change it you can pick up a 2017 GTS.... I think if you are buying as purely a road car you may prefer the 2017 S to begin with.
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Probably a good rule most of the time but as always, there are exceptions. Two guys looking to buy a 911 in 1998. One chose an almost new 993 and the other a new 996. Who came out ahead? And I'm still not convinced that a 2012 production 991 was a better buy than one of the last 997's the same year.
However, the stigma of the last air cooled 911s trumps the performance delta of the 996 Carreras and is why the 993s retain their value so well. Now we have talking heads claiming the 997 is more desirable than their successor because they were the last cars produced by Porsche before the VW takeover. The truth is, it really makes no difference, but perception is reality when it comes to car value.
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No desire to go back to any air cooled except maybe a 993tt, but I wish I had both my 94 3.6 T and my 993 ttS back just because of how much money I left off the table selling them 15 years ago. I am just not a fan of any NA air cooled anymore from a looks or performance stand point.
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991.2 would be my choice here without question. The only 991.1 I'm interested in is a GT3.
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For sure, if going NA GTS route . . . 997.2 over a 991.1. The 997.2 GTS is just a more special car in so many ways. I really like the 991.2s though. FI is here to stay and the only way to stay relevant in the performance game. That said, I will purchase another 458, hopefully this summer, before buying a 488. I loved my 458 and miss that car more than any I have ever owned including the 6.0 Diablo and the 2005 Carrera GT.