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06-18-2018, 06:06 PM
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06-18-2018, 07:32 PM
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That made me wonder why you guys posted you are using the Amsoil Improved Euro 5w-40. This is the improved version of the amsoil that reduced zddp (is now a mid saps product) instead of full saps. You have actually chosen a lower zddp oil than the cheap M1 or Castrol products. Then you also give up all the startup protection the 0w pouring and cold viscosity the M1 0w-40 had that the Amsoil 5w does not? Why are you guys not using the full SAPS amsoil classic then that has the zddp in it?
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06-18-2018, 11:02 PM
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The 5W-40 AMSOIL I'm using is approved by Porsche for their A40 spec. I live in Texas; there's absolutely no concern here about cold flow of a 5W oil. If I lived in the Northeast or Canada I'd consider the 0W Full Saps product.
06-18-2018, 11:08 PM
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06-18-2018, 11:59 PM
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I’ll be doing a baseline oil analysis on this next oil change, and will be happy to email you a copy. This oil (product AFL) offers Improved Emission System protection, which means it’s easier on those expensive cats. It’s a great performer.
06-19-2018, 12:57 AM
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Yes the "improved" amsoil formula refers to the formulation being more gentle on newer emissions equipment which necessitates reducing zddp.... the protection packages in our engines. It is a less robust oil then their full saps and classic. Its the opposite of what was reported to be formulated into the joe gibbs dt40.. a specifically high zinc formula
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06-19-2018, 08:08 AM
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yeah i was just pointing out to josserman that it is not correct that zddp was reduced from m1 0w40. Its a full saps with 1100+ zinc. Oddly he then recommended the mid saps amsoil product with less protection. They do both still meet a40 so warranty requirements are met but if looking for a higher performance oil theres the m1 or the full saps amsoil
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coming from an e9x m w s65 I was forced to used a 10 60 which almost no one makes, so haven’t looked into street car oil lately. My truck I just put m1 as it has a Chevy 8.1 and I’m certain m1 is more then fine for it.
I appreciate this information, and seems like I need to review a few things before I do change the oil.
06-19-2018, 08:18 AM
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truth be told, I haven’t even looked into changing oil in 911 yet, still only have put a few thousand miles on. I used to run m1 in my s2000, then as a street car when they changed formulas I moved to the amsoil euro blend, but now run amsoil race oil in it. Car has 200+ hours of racing, has had FI 80% of its like at 400+whp, 110k miles, and engine is running incredibly strong.
coming from an e9x m w s65 I was forced to used a 10 60 which almost no one makes, so haven’t looked into street car oil lately. My truck I just put m1 as it has a Chevy 8.1 and I’m certain m1 is more then fine for it.
I appreciate this information, and seems like I need to review a few things before I do change the oil.
No worries. The oil rabbit hole is a deep one. Who knows what is really best anyways. I think i'm not going to spend more time worrying about it and do an A40 at ridiculously short intervals (yes and be wasteful) and not obsess about it. Probably going do do 4K OCI on a non tracked car.
Mike
06-19-2018, 09:55 AM
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neither of the amsoils are bmw ll01 approved. I agree not the important thing.
Yes the "improved" amsoil formula refers to the formulation being more gentle on newer emissions equipment which necessitates reducing zddp.... the protection packages in our engines. It is a less robust oil then their full saps and classic. Its the opposite of what was reported to be formulated into the joe gibbs dt40.. a specifically high zinc formula
mike
Yes the "improved" amsoil formula refers to the formulation being more gentle on newer emissions equipment which necessitates reducing zddp.... the protection packages in our engines. It is a less robust oil then their full saps and classic. Its the opposite of what was reported to be formulated into the joe gibbs dt40.. a specifically high zinc formula
mike
https://my.amsoil.com/Shared/Literat...aspx?docid=202
Last edited by swingwing; 06-19-2018 at 10:02 AM. Reason: Added wording.