DIY Brake fluid change
04-07-2018, 10:00 AM
#16
I would avoid the NT510 for a 997.2 if that's your only car. Just got it last week. Works great for the Macan but limited functions on a 997.2. It won't communicate sometimes and won't reset the service lights.
I bought from foxwell and the tech support was actually good. It takes 1 working day to respond and they always did. But they confirmed that there are limited 997.2 functions but they are working on it.
I bought from foxwell and the tech support was actually good. It takes 1 working day to respond and they always did. But they confirmed that there are limited 997.2 functions but they are working on it.
04-07-2018, 11:22 AM
#17
Yes the nt510 can be loaded with multiple car manufacturers.
interesting on the 997.1 vs 997.2 functionality. This may be the case with durametric too as there are multiple people who tried to use it to cycle the abs and for them it looked like it was working but actually the pump wouldnt cycle. They reached out to durametric and got no support.
Illl at least try it on 997.1 and see what it will and wont do.
mike
interesting on the 997.1 vs 997.2 functionality. This may be the case with durametric too as there are multiple people who tried to use it to cycle the abs and for them it looked like it was working but actually the pump wouldnt cycle. They reached out to durametric and got no support.
Illl at least try it on 997.1 and see what it will and wont do.
mike
04-07-2018, 12:46 PM
#18
Three Wheelin'
My Durametric Pro absolutely can cycle the ABS pump in the Brakes Activations menu on my 2005.. I had to do it when I accidentally ran the reservoir dry when doing a Motive pressure bleed using the dry method. Since then I've switched all my cars over to the same Motul RBF600 and now just fill the plower bleeder up once a year and do all the cars one after the other, then clean it up until the next use - usually next year.
04-07-2018, 08:41 PM
#19
Instructor
My Durametric Pro absolutely can cycle the ABS pump in the Brakes Activations menu on my 2005.. I had to do it when I accidentally ran the reservoir dry when doing a Motive pressure bleed using the dry method. Since then I've switched all my cars over to the same Motul RBF600 and now just fill the plower bleeder up once a year and do all the cars one after the other, then clean it up until the next use - usually next year.
BTW, I bought the iCarsoft PORII last fall, but have yet to use it. I believe it is supposed to have the ABS cycling function.
04-07-2018, 09:18 PM
#20
Three Wheelin'
A lot of people don't put brake fluids directly into the Motive. Instead just use the master cylinder reservoir. This will first not waste any fluid and also you don't have to clean up the Motive later. Brake fluid should never be left unsealed. Leaving brake fluid even in a sealed environment such as within the Motive will absorb moisture due to the large air space within it. I use the master brake reservoir. You just have to keep an eye to top it up as you bled the system.
04-07-2018, 09:20 PM
#21
Instructor
Yes, I typically run the power bleeder dry (ie refill directly into the reservoir). But I understand that if you unseal a bottle of fluid you should dispose of the rest if not used immediately (few weeks I guess??)
04-07-2018, 09:29 PM
#23
Instructor
I just re-read it and you're right. This is what happens when you rennlist while playing Battlefield 1.
04-08-2018, 05:12 PM
#24
Three Wheelin'
[QUOTE=Petza914;14924866]My Durametric Pro absolutely can cycle the ABS pump in the Brakes Activations menu on my 2005.. I had to do it when I accidentally ran the reservoir dry when doing a Motive pressure bleed using the dry method. Since then I've switched all my cars over to the same Motul RBF600 and now just fill the plower bleeder up once a year and do all the cars one after the other, then clean it up until the next use - usually next year.[/QUOTE
The ABS brake fluid is contained in a different chamber and does not cross over to the master cylinder reservoir unless the ABS is activated and the valves actuate the pumping action. So even if the main reservoir runs dry, the self-contained ABS does not. As I said the only way to recycle the ABS is actuating it, or using a Porsche tool for the task. Durametric can't do it because I had Super Blue in the system prior to bleeding, and even after bleeding the system clear of Super Blue, replacing with ember colored fluid, I then activated the ABS with aggressive braking action on the street. Sure enough, the ABS dumped the old Super Blue into the master reservoir. Visually it gives a bluish tint which in the older days people erroneously thought Super Blue stains their brake system. This task proves that old brake fluids are self-contained within the ABS system.
The ABS brake fluid is contained in a different chamber and does not cross over to the master cylinder reservoir unless the ABS is activated and the valves actuate the pumping action. So even if the main reservoir runs dry, the self-contained ABS does not. As I said the only way to recycle the ABS is actuating it, or using a Porsche tool for the task. Durametric can't do it because I had Super Blue in the system prior to bleeding, and even after bleeding the system clear of Super Blue, replacing with ember colored fluid, I then activated the ABS with aggressive braking action on the street. Sure enough, the ABS dumped the old Super Blue into the master reservoir. Visually it gives a bluish tint which in the older days people erroneously thought Super Blue stains their brake system. This task proves that old brake fluids are self-contained within the ABS system.
04-08-2018, 06:48 PM
#25
RL Community Team
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[QUOTE=henryting;14927452]
Not sure if you have a .1 or a .2, but in my .1 when I ran the reservoir dry, no amount if normal bleeding at the calipers would restore the pedal. After using my Durametric to cycle the ABS pump doing all 4 wheels in the sequence Durametric walks you through, the pedal was returned and firm again. You can actually hear the oukp cycle when you press the activation button on the PC screen.
My Durametric Pro absolutely can cycle the ABS pump in the Brakes Activations menu on my 2005.. I had to do it when I accidentally ran the reservoir dry when doing a Motive pressure bleed using the dry method. Since then I've switched all my cars over to the same Motul RBF600 and now just fill the plower bleeder up once a year and do all the cars one after the other, then clean it up until the next use - usually next year.[/QUOTE
The ABS brake fluid is contained in a different chamber and does not cross over to the master cylinder reservoir unless the ABS is activated and the valves actuate the pumping action. So even if the main reservoir runs dry, the self-contained ABS does not. As I said the only way to recycle the ABS is actuating it, or using a Porsche tool for the task. Durametric can't do it because I had Super Blue in the system prior to bleeding, and even after bleeding the system clear of Super Blue, replacing with ember colored fluid, I then activated the ABS with aggressive braking action on the street. Sure enough, the ABS dumped the old Super Blue into the master reservoir. Visually it gives a bluish tint which in the older days people erroneously thought Super Blue stains their brake system. This task proves that old brake fluids are self-contained within the ABS system.
The ABS brake fluid is contained in a different chamber and does not cross over to the master cylinder reservoir unless the ABS is activated and the valves actuate the pumping action. So even if the main reservoir runs dry, the self-contained ABS does not. As I said the only way to recycle the ABS is actuating it, or using a Porsche tool for the task. Durametric can't do it because I had Super Blue in the system prior to bleeding, and even after bleeding the system clear of Super Blue, replacing with ember colored fluid, I then activated the ABS with aggressive braking action on the street. Sure enough, the ABS dumped the old Super Blue into the master reservoir. Visually it gives a bluish tint which in the older days people erroneously thought Super Blue stains their brake system. This task proves that old brake fluids are self-contained within the ABS system.
04-08-2018, 07:23 PM
#26
Three Wheelin'
[QUOTE=Petza914;14927635]
Not sure if you have a .1 or a .2, but in my .1 when I ran the reservoir dry, no amount if normal bleeding at the calipers would restore the pedal. After using my Durametric to cycle the ABS pump doing all 4 wheels in the sequence Durametric walks you through, the pedal was returned and firm again. You can actually hear the oukp cycle when you press the activation button on the PC screen.
Mine is 997.2. This requires further investigation. If Durametric indeed pumps the ABS, that will make my day. Just so that we are on the same level, can you briefly walk us through how you perform this task with Durametric?
Not sure if you have a .1 or a .2, but in my .1 when I ran the reservoir dry, no amount if normal bleeding at the calipers would restore the pedal. After using my Durametric to cycle the ABS pump doing all 4 wheels in the sequence Durametric walks you through, the pedal was returned and firm again. You can actually hear the oukp cycle when you press the activation button on the PC screen.
Mine is 997.2. This requires further investigation. If Durametric indeed pumps the ABS, that will make my day. Just so that we are on the same level, can you briefly walk us through how you perform this task with Durametric?
04-09-2018, 12:33 PM
#28
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[QUOTE=henryting;14927678]
Mike is probably correct - my cars are 997.1 models and its as simple as going to the braking module, Activations, then the ABS pump. When you're in there it shows you all 4 wheels in the order they should be activated along with a start & stop button for each. There's a warning about not running the pump for more than a few seconds and allowing for some tine between wheels for it to cool. I hook IP my power bleeder pressurized, put my silicone hose with collection bag on the bleeder screw, along with the brake wrench. Then I hit start on the PC screen for that wheel, open the bleed screw while the pump is running for about 10 seconds, close the screw, then hit stop on the PC screen. I wait a couple minutes while I move everything to the next wheel, then repeat the process.
There are some things Durametric won't do on my 2009 Cayenne Turbo too, so it nay be less useful on that generation of Porsches.
There are some things Durametric won't do on my 2009 Cayenne Turbo too, so it nay be less useful on that generation of Porsches.
04-14-2018, 08:41 PM
#29
[QUOTE=Petza914;14929112]
Mike is probably correct - my cars are 997.1 models and its as simple as going to the braking module, Activations, then the ABS pump. When you're in there it shows you all 4 wheels in the order they should be activated along with a start & stop button for each. There's a warning about not running the pump for more than a few seconds and allowing for some tine between wheels for it to cool. I hook IP my power bleeder pressurized, put my silicone hose with collection bag on the bleeder screw, along with the brake wrench. Then I hit start on the PC screen for that wheel, open the bleed screw while the pump is running for about 10 seconds, close the screw, then hit stop on the PC screen. I wait a couple minutes while I move everything to the next wheel, then repeat the process.
There are some things Durametric won't do on my 2009 Cayenne Turbo too, so it nay be less useful on that generation of Porsches.
Just want to update you guys. So far the NT510 is incredible!
For $149 I got the scanner and the Porsche specific software. Ive only had it for a couple hours and so far here is what it can do....
-Read/Erase Porsche Specific Trouble Codes
- A ton of live data and datalogging of sensors for everything from ignition timing, tranmission temperatures, intake temps, misfires, to a/c compressor temps. You name it and you can measure and record it.
- Active testing of components like cycling the ABS pump. Yes it did work. 100% for the 997.1
- Coding. So far I removed the seatbelt chime and codec my side markers to act as turn signals. There is all the standard comfort function coding, removing airbag lights, etc etc etc. There is a ton of coding. So far, it seems to work for that.
- Run an overrev report. Very easy to do and seems to give all the same infor the durametric does.
I'm going to do an in-depth video on the functionality of this thing but so far so good!!! Let me know any modules or functions you guys want me to check.
Mike
Mike is probably correct - my cars are 997.1 models and its as simple as going to the braking module, Activations, then the ABS pump. When you're in there it shows you all 4 wheels in the order they should be activated along with a start & stop button for each. There's a warning about not running the pump for more than a few seconds and allowing for some tine between wheels for it to cool. I hook IP my power bleeder pressurized, put my silicone hose with collection bag on the bleeder screw, along with the brake wrench. Then I hit start on the PC screen for that wheel, open the bleed screw while the pump is running for about 10 seconds, close the screw, then hit stop on the PC screen. I wait a couple minutes while I move everything to the next wheel, then repeat the process.
There are some things Durametric won't do on my 2009 Cayenne Turbo too, so it nay be less useful on that generation of Porsches.
Just want to update you guys. So far the NT510 is incredible!
For $149 I got the scanner and the Porsche specific software. Ive only had it for a couple hours and so far here is what it can do....
-Read/Erase Porsche Specific Trouble Codes
- A ton of live data and datalogging of sensors for everything from ignition timing, tranmission temperatures, intake temps, misfires, to a/c compressor temps. You name it and you can measure and record it.
- Active testing of components like cycling the ABS pump. Yes it did work. 100% for the 997.1
- Coding. So far I removed the seatbelt chime and codec my side markers to act as turn signals. There is all the standard comfort function coding, removing airbag lights, etc etc etc. There is a ton of coding. So far, it seems to work for that.
- Run an overrev report. Very easy to do and seems to give all the same infor the durametric does.
I'm going to do an in-depth video on the functionality of this thing but so far so good!!! Let me know any modules or functions you guys want me to check.
Mike
