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Old 01-29-2018, 11:57 PM
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Wishfull thinking ALL cars DEPRECIATE Period And the closer we get to the mission E, even more so. The world is clearly going electric...dont want to be the guy with $200k in a car thats a garage queen when the music stops...
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Wishfull thinking ALL cars DEPRECIATE Period And the closer we get to the mission E, even more so. The world is clearly going electric...dont want to be the guy with $200k in a car thats a garage queen when the music stops...
Before the music stops (no gasoline) I'll be long gone and I'm not even 40.
Old 01-30-2018, 01:16 PM
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The runup in air-cooled prices, the red-headded-stepchild syndrome affecting the 996 (perhaps undeserved, but nonetheless a fact), and the significant bump in MSRP and paradigm shift of the 991 all conspire to limit the depreciation of the 997. Plus, the low production numbers and 9A1 engine give the .2 an even greater shielding. Unless the 992 comes in at another huge bump in MSRP, the 991's will see the greatest hit in depreciation, so anyone wanting a 991 might be wise to wait, but I don't think it pays to do so with the 997.2. Also, in practical terms, finding just the one you want may very well take you past the intro of the 992 anway.
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Originally Posted by doclouie
I will continue to look for the exact one I want and will pull the trigger when I find it. I want a 4 wheel drive because I will probably live in cold country in the next couple of years and I love the wider stance too. So few and far between with any 4’s or 4S’s though. They just seem to be rare. I wish I could find out how many all wheel drives they made in a 997.2.
997.2 AWD Production numbers (world-wide)

C4 - 1748
C4 Cab - 1244
C4S - 9188
C4S Cab - 7775
C4 GTS - 1321
C4 GTS Cab - 957
Targa 4 - 1046
Targa 4S - 2560
Turbo - 3301
Turbo Cab - 1752
Turbo S - 3095
Turbo S Cab - 2055
Old 02-01-2018, 09:02 PM
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Woohoo! 1200 997.2 Carrera 4 cabs! My car is now worth $1,000, 000!

I'll take the first $50k.
Old 02-01-2018, 09:19 PM
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Thank you for all the replies. I have now realized it is going to take some time to find the car I want. I am actually not very picky with what I want so hopefully it will not be too difficult. I have the cash set aside so I won’t have to deal with financing so as soon as I find it I will pull the trigger. It just must be a 997.2 all wheel drive. A 4s or even a plain 4 will do as long as it is a stick. Beyond that I don’t really have a list of options I want that are not run of the mill. I have my daily routine of checking several apps and websites to see if my car is out there. I will of course ask for pointers when I find one. Thanks.
Old 02-02-2018, 01:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Hula
997.2 AWD Production numbers (world-wide)

C4 - 1748
C4 Cab - 1244
C4S - 9188
C4S Cab - 7775
C4 GTS - 1321
C4 GTS Cab - 957
Targa 4 - 1046
Targa 4S - 2560
Turbo - 3301
Turbo Cab - 1752
Turbo S - 3095
Turbo S Cab - 2055
Thanks for sharing. It would be interesting to see the split between PDK and manual.

On a side note...local Porsche dealer recently offered me what I paid for my C4S 997.2 five years ago.
Old 02-02-2018, 09:28 AM
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997.2 values definitely exhibiting an upward trend it appears. My local dealer doesn't even post a full ad when they get one in, because he said clean ones typically sell in a matter of hours sight unseen.
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Originally Posted by doclouie
Thank you for all the replies. I have now realized it is going to take some time to find the car I want. I am actually not very picky with what I want so hopefully it will not be too difficult. I have the cash set aside so I won’t have to deal with financing so as soon as I find it I will pull the trigger. It just must be a 997.2 all wheel drive. A 4s or even a plain 4 will do as long as it is a stick. Beyond that I don’t really have a list of options I want that are not run of the mill. I have my daily routine of checking several apps and websites to see if my car is out there. I will of course ask for pointers when I find one. Thanks.
Good luck in your search (that was not meant sarcastically). Act quickly when you find something as there were not a lot of C4 or C4S models made and, add to that only 10 to 15 percent may have been manuals (and most of these also may have been ordered by enthusiasts who could be less likely to part with their cars). The thing that you’ll notice, that I notice, is how analog the 997.2 feels compared to other cars in general and the 991 specifically - I guess that is the draw.
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Okay so as I continue my search I come to a question that I am not sure of what to do. I want a AWD no matter what. The 997.2 ones are 50k or more. The 997.1 are 10-15k less, but they have the possibility of bore scoring. IMS is an issue, but is fixable with pulling the tranny and doing a mod. I know you always buy the best car you can. I would die if my 997.1 had to have an engine replaced because then I would be above the 997.2 price point and that is what I really want. They are just barely out of what I want to pay. Thanks.
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Originally Posted by doclouie
Okay so as I continue my search I come to a question that I am not sure of what to do. I want a AWD no matter what. The 997.2 ones are 50k or more. The 997.1 are 10-15k less, but they have the possibility of bore scoring. IMS is an issue, but is fixable with pulling the tranny and doing a mod. I know you always buy the best car you can. I would die if my 997.1 had to have an engine replaced because then I would be above the 997.2 price point and that is what I really want. They are just barely out of what I want to pay. Thanks.
You need to compromise somewhere. If you must have a .2 then you need to drop the AWD, PDK/Manaul, and/or coupe/cab requirements. If you are indifferent to all of those criteria and still cannot get a .2 you need to save a few more bucks.

FWIW, I don't see these cars getting cheaper.
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Sailor- I think you are right. I think I may need to drop the AWD. Market really opens then. I could never own an automatic sports car. I purchased my first car at 15. An old 924. Speed wise I see that the base 997.2 Carrera is a little faster than the old 997.1 S versions.
Old 02-03-2018, 08:19 PM
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Up here in Canada, it would cost me 5-10 more to by my 2011 C4S cab today, then when I purchased it 2 years ago in Jan 2016.
Old 02-03-2018, 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by doclouie
Sailor- I think you are right. I think I may need to drop the AWD. Market really opens then. I could never own an automatic sports car. I purchased my first car at 15. An old 924. Speed wise I see that the base 997.2 Carrera is a little faster than the old 997.1 S versions.
Why 4S, aside from the wider body? I agree, it looks marginally better! But it doesn't drive as well, having owned both a 2S and 4. Just when things get a little fun, the front wheels engage and pull you out of the corner: it isn't a true rear-engine, classic 911 feel. If winter traction is an issue, get snow tires and you will be fine. Plus, you save weight and complexity with the 2S.

I was a die-hard manual guy too, but PDK is something I could live with on these; I don't think you will be disappointed with a 2-pedal car. I had some time in a PDK a week back, about 80 miles, and was surprised how I didn't get bored. Granted, it was a 991, but I was impressed.
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Originally Posted by doclouie
Sailor- I think you are right. I think I may need to drop the AWD. Market really opens then. I could never own an automatic sports car. I purchased my first car at 15. An old 924. Speed wise I see that the base 997.2 Carrera is a little faster than the old 997.1 S versions.
You can also go for higher millage 997.2 or an accident history. A PPI can verify the mechanicals or a proper repair. No time bombs to worry about. Since it's already far down on the depreciation curve racking up miles as a DD would be worry free.


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