Installed RS engine mounts - nice results
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Installed RS engine mounts - nice results
Just installed RS engine mounts, a nice upgrade.
Some background. My pcar is an 06 with 40k and had the original mounts. After a SSK install, the shifting became notchy when cold, was not great going 1st to 2nd, and was very balky down shifting to 1st. I then installed FF transmission mounts (yellow), and shifting improved but with significant NVH at 4K rpm and above. The most notable improvement was redline shifts became lot more stable and smooth. A PTX oil change helped a bit too. All in all, I was still not happy and considered taking out the FF tranny mounts.
After reading a lot of posts, I ordered the RS mounts from Renn parts and they called (5 minutes) right after my online order to confirm they were sending the longer thru bolts. Great service! On a Saturday no less.
After the install I can report better shifting and more muted vibration going thru 4K. High in the rev range there is some more noise but not the course vibration. Livable for the street and entertaining! Car feels more planted and all gates feel generally better. I'll probably leave the FF tranny mounts in now.
Vibration is not an issue to be concerned with and RS mounts are a good option over OEM. An easy mod with the only trick being using a 18m box wrench inside the engine bay. Leave the wrench handle lodged against one of two top bolts (thread these in leaving 1 inch raised). After the thru bolts are torqued to 60 ft lb from under the car, remove the box wrench and finish off the two top bolts at 18 ft lb.
Some background. My pcar is an 06 with 40k and had the original mounts. After a SSK install, the shifting became notchy when cold, was not great going 1st to 2nd, and was very balky down shifting to 1st. I then installed FF transmission mounts (yellow), and shifting improved but with significant NVH at 4K rpm and above. The most notable improvement was redline shifts became lot more stable and smooth. A PTX oil change helped a bit too. All in all, I was still not happy and considered taking out the FF tranny mounts.
After reading a lot of posts, I ordered the RS mounts from Renn parts and they called (5 minutes) right after my online order to confirm they were sending the longer thru bolts. Great service! On a Saturday no less.
After the install I can report better shifting and more muted vibration going thru 4K. High in the rev range there is some more noise but not the course vibration. Livable for the street and entertaining! Car feels more planted and all gates feel generally better. I'll probably leave the FF tranny mounts in now.
Vibration is not an issue to be concerned with and RS mounts are a good option over OEM. An easy mod with the only trick being using a 18m box wrench inside the engine bay. Leave the wrench handle lodged against one of two top bolts (thread these in leaving 1 inch raised). After the thru bolts are torqued to 60 ft lb from under the car, remove the box wrench and finish off the two top bolts at 18 ft lb.
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jlert (10-25-2022)
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This is an upgrade that I’ve been thinking about for some time, but after my terrible experience with the NVH created by the yellow FF transmission mounts, I’m worried that it could have the same result.
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I assume you removed the yellow FF inserts?
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The FF tranny inserts (yellow) create a lot of NVH. I doubt the RS engine mounts alone would create anything near the vibration caused by the FF tranny inserts. As I mentioned, the RS mounts smooth out the NVH at 4K and above. There is slightly more noise at high RPM, but it's not NVH like or coarse.
I assume you removed the yellow FF inserts?
I assume you removed the yellow FF inserts?
Yes, I removed the FF yellows and went back to stock.
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At just over 3K, there is a very slight extra buzz that then disappears at 3.2k approx. Again, I still have the yellow FF inserts in there. I'd take them out, but it's a pain DIY job and they do help with the aggressive 5 - 7k shifts.
Plan to install the FF shift cable linkages next. It's getting there.
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Burning Brakes
Great to hear, thanks!
I’m very happy with the FF linkages by the way. I’m sure you are going to like them too.
One thing that I’ve noticed since installing those a few hundred miles ago, is that it seems to have fixed completely the occasional problem of shifting into 1st. Hasn’t happened even once since I have them.
I’m very happy with the FF linkages by the way. I’m sure you are going to like them too.
One thing that I’ve noticed since installing those a few hundred miles ago, is that it seems to have fixed completely the occasional problem of shifting into 1st. Hasn’t happened even once since I have them.
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Great to hear, thanks!
I’m very happy with the FF linkages by the way. I’m sure you are going to like them too.
One thing that I’ve noticed since installing those a few hundred miles ago, is that it seems to have fixed completely the occasional problem of shifting into 1st. Hasn’t happened even once since I have them.
I’m very happy with the FF linkages by the way. I’m sure you are going to like them too.
One thing that I’ve noticed since installing those a few hundred miles ago, is that it seems to have fixed completely the occasional problem of shifting into 1st. Hasn’t happened even once since I have them.
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Will the RS engine mounts fit the 997.2 as well?
Does anyone have the Porsche part number for it?
Does anyone have the Porsche part number for it?
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Yes they'll fit a .2. Fit years 1989 thru 2012. Recommend Renn Parts and indicate you need the longer thru bolts. I went with the URO brand, which included OEM bolts and washers.
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RennPart (05-13-2023)
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installed the rs mounts from renn part yesterday. I didnt use the washers on the bottom mounting as there is so little room with my awe exhaust and the original was just the washer nut anyways. Results, very happy, car is tighter shifting and more rigid corners with small amount cabin noise increase. I went with the URO brand w porsche hardware. Thinking about the trans oil next but looks like a pain with my lowered car and jacks only so high.
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RennPart (05-13-2023)
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you have to use the washers or the mounts could bind at worst.. NVH at least.
lowest nut is a flange nut so no washer needed as you state... assuming by 'washer nut' you mean 'flange nut'.
lowest nut is a flange nut so no washer needed as you state... assuming by 'washer nut' you mean 'flange nut'.
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Washers on the bottom fit above the frame piece as in the diagram. Can’t see how this would interfere with the exhaust.
The missing washer protects the rubber bottom piece. I’d go back and reinstall. It’s a quick job and can be done more quickly a second time.
Glad you like mounts. Little NVH and a more planted rear.
The first pic doesnt show the small washer.
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Anyone have the URO P/N?
EDIT: Found the URO P/N 96437504381KIT
But can someone please measure the length of the bolt and diameter? Along with OD of the washers? I honestly think this kit can be sourced and made individually for close to $125 if that.
EDIT: Found the URO P/N 96437504381KIT
But can someone please measure the length of the bolt and diameter? Along with OD of the washers? I honestly think this kit can be sourced and made individually for close to $125 if that.
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