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Old 06-14-2017, 06:03 PM
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I feel most would say you waste bandwidth with every breath.
There is no breath involved with bandwidth.
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It sucks and is a huge turn off to the real drivers out there that can't get the good cars.
If you have the money to spend, then you can get the cars.
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Old 06-14-2017, 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Dock
If you agree with both prerogatives then how can you support your belief that if someone is not going to drive their Porsche, then they should buy something else? If someone felt pressured by your opinion, and decided to buy a Mercedes AMG instead of a Porsche, would it be OK with you if they didn't drive the AMG?
No, I would still suggest a vase or a painting, instead. I'm personally more passionate about Porsches than AMG's, so I have a stronger opinion (especially when we're talking about the rare GT cars, where demand greatly exceeds supply).

Is it your buy-in to the statement that "Porsche's were meant to be driven" that influences your opinion on this? Do you think that other cars are build "not to be driven"?
No, I had never seen that quote prior to this thread, and yes, I believe all cars are meant to be driven, as it's quite literally the intended purpose for which they were engineered.

And what exactly does "meant to be driven" really mean? Is there an annual minimum mileage associated with this, or is where and how the car is actually driven part of deciding whether or not it is "driven"?
It means it's a car. Driving means driving. Not that complicated.

I think we're gonna have to agree to disagree on the over-engineered museum pieces.
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Old 06-14-2017, 06:32 PM
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Are you on drugs? What in the world does PAG's bogus position have to do with the 996 Turbo I currently own?
You are clearly upset with Porsche ethos. Opt out.
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There is no breath involved with bandwidth.
There is in yours.
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Originally Posted by Dock
Do you see the word "drive" associated with any of my modification opinions? Focus carefully...the discussion is about "driving the car", not modifying the car.
No the discussion is about more than driving the car. You made it about ownership.
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Old 06-14-2017, 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Carlo_Carrera
You are clearly upset with Porsche ethos.
I'm not upset with them at all.

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Opt out.
What didn't you understand about my comment regarding my 996 Turbo??
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There is in yours.
Actually, there is not.
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Originally Posted by Dock
I'm not upset with them at all.



What didn't you understand about my comment regarding my 996 Turbo??
I am seeing your true feelings that you have long been suppressing.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/denial

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Actually, there is not.
Oh yes, there is.
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Old 06-14-2017, 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Carlo_Carrera
No the discussion is about more than driving the car. You made it about ownership.
The discussion is clearly about purchasing, and about driving or not driving the car after the purchase. There has been no discussion in this thread about modifying the car.

As I said before on this Forum, attempting to discuss anything with you is like wrestling with a... (you know what word comes next).
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Originally Posted by manimal
No, I would still suggest a vase or a painting, instead. I'm personally more passionate about Porsches than AMG's, so I have a stronger opinion (especially when we're talking about the rare GT cars, where demand greatly exceeds supply).
So you believe the car's rarity means that the owner must drive it?

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No, I had never seen that quote prior to this thread, and yes, I believe all cars are meant to be driven, as it's quite literally the intended purpose for which they were engineered.
The "meant to be driven" is a go-to statement used by many Porsche owners. It's a bogus statement, because like you said, being driven is literally the intended purpose for which all vehicles are manufactured. I have to laugh every time someone posts the "meant to be driven" thing on this forum. It's about as common as the "meant to be driven hard" statement.

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I think we're gonna have to agree to disagree on the over-engineered museum pieces.
Fair enough. I'll stick with "the rights of the owner" idea.
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Old 06-14-2017, 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Dock
The discussion is clearly about purchasing, and about driving or not driving the car after the purchase. There has been no discussion in this thread about modifying the car.

As I said before on this Forum, attempting to discuss anything with you is like wrestling with a... (you know what word comes next).
The discussion from almost the very beginning has been about ownership. And you clearly engaged on that subject. Besides your other well known issues you also seem to have comprehension problems.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dict.../comprehension


As for me being "what word comes next", well, what does make you if you knowingly continue "wrestling" with me?

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/ignoramus ???
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Originally Posted by Carlo_Carrera
The discussion from almost the very beginning has been about ownership.
Here is what Preuninger said...

"I don’t like this business of people buying our cars to make money on them..."

A synonym for "buy" is "purchase". So as I said, the discussion is clearly in part about purchasing. Another part, according to Preuninger, is about "driving" the car. The final part, again according to Preuninger, is about people making money flipping his (?) cars.

Preuninger also said...

"If you’re flipping cars, then I think it’s understandable that you won’t get on the list for the next car if we have more demand than supply."

What list do you think he's talking about? If you think it's the list to buy (read "purchase") a car, you'd be right.
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Preuninger is a major hypocrite, if he wanted people to drive the cars all he'd have to do is make a few thousand more of them.
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