Random Battery Failure Experience
#47
Is there an easy way to check it? This issue seems to be on-and-off. I pretty much check the voltage gauge everytime before I try to crank the car, but it has started even when the needle shows slightly below the 12V mark
#48
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A well charged battery should show 12.6 volts before cranking. Start the car and put a voltmeter between the battery terminals and see what the charging voltage is.
#49
All I've done differently as of late is double-clicking the keyfob to lock the car and turn off the motion detection, as well as making sure to not leave the phone charger in the cigarette lighter socket.
As far as voltage while the engine is running, both the dash gauge as well as the portable jumper unit I have show low-13V. Averages like 13.1V
#50
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Every time I've seen the dash gauge show just around 12V, if not slightly under. But thus far, it's been fine every time, starting up first try.
All I've done differently as of late is double-clicking the keyfob to lock the car and turn off the motion detection, as well as making sure to not leave the phone charger in the cigarette lighter socket.
As far as voltage while the engine is running, both the dash gauge as well as the portable jumper unit I have show low-13V. Averages like 13.1V
All I've done differently as of late is double-clicking the keyfob to lock the car and turn off the motion detection, as well as making sure to not leave the phone charger in the cigarette lighter socket.
As far as voltage while the engine is running, both the dash gauge as well as the portable jumper unit I have show low-13V. Averages like 13.1V
#51
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Every time I've seen the dash gauge show just around 12V, if not slightly under. But thus far, it's been fine every time, starting up first try.
All I've done differently as of late is double-clicking the keyfob to lock the car and turn off the motion detection, as well as making sure to not leave the phone charger in the cigarette lighter socket.
As far as voltage while the engine is running, both the dash gauge as well as the portable jumper unit I have show low-13V. Averages like 13.1V
All I've done differently as of late is double-clicking the keyfob to lock the car and turn off the motion detection, as well as making sure to not leave the phone charger in the cigarette lighter socket.
As far as voltage while the engine is running, both the dash gauge as well as the portable jumper unit I have show low-13V. Averages like 13.1V
#52
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#53
Hah, thanks for the videos. I was already certain that the alternator was working fine, since both the dash gauge as well as my portable jumper unit read 13+ Volts while engine was on. Was just puzzled by why sometimes the battery voltage would drop under 12 Volts overnight, even with car locked, and cabin motion sensor turned off.
In any case, I sent the car in to the dealer to have a master tech diagnose it. After running a series of tests, they confirmed that all electrical systems seem to be working properly, and there were no soft codes of any kind stored. They suggested I get rid of the Walmart 730CCA non-AGM battery, and get a battery with higher CCA to try it out, and go from there.
I did just that. Returned the $130 Walmart one, and bought a Bosch Platinum series AGM battery from Pep Boys for $150 (after rebates). It has 800CCA, and is AGM, so it should last in the long run too.
So far, it's been fine. Will continue to update going forward.
One thing is for sure though, when I jump in the car in the morning, key position 2 shows battery voltage to be much higher on average than the Walmart battery. Sign of good health
In any case, I sent the car in to the dealer to have a master tech diagnose it. After running a series of tests, they confirmed that all electrical systems seem to be working properly, and there were no soft codes of any kind stored. They suggested I get rid of the Walmart 730CCA non-AGM battery, and get a battery with higher CCA to try it out, and go from there.
I did just that. Returned the $130 Walmart one, and bought a Bosch Platinum series AGM battery from Pep Boys for $150 (after rebates). It has 800CCA, and is AGM, so it should last in the long run too.
So far, it's been fine. Will continue to update going forward.
One thing is for sure though, when I jump in the car in the morning, key position 2 shows battery voltage to be much higher on average than the Walmart battery. Sign of good health
#54
With the new Bosch 800CCA H7 battery, all was well for about 3-4 weeks. Then randomly, bam. Same thing happened.
Going to have to diagnose either the voltage regulator/alternator itself, or the ignition switch as previously-recommended.
Quite annoyed right now with the car
Going to have to diagnose either the voltage regulator/alternator itself, or the ignition switch as previously-recommended.
Quite annoyed right now with the car
#55
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The randomness of this leads me to believe you should start with the ignition switch. But do the alt/reg tests first.
#56
#58
if you can DIY? then sure, check the VR and if it is only that? then you're done with a 40$ part that tacks onto the alternator... if not? ( this is the dilemma..)
then just get the whole new unit ( new bosch ) for the $350 ( dont buy a reman alt! ) and consider it done. the downside to simply replacing the VR is that if that is NOT the problem? you have to R&R the whole thing to replace the new alternator anyway!
you dont want to have to do this twice.
#59
If $350 plus labor for an OEM Bosch, I'll eat the cost. Sucks, but if it turns out to be alternator-related, then it's good peace of mind. 2001 car, about 76k miles now, I'm assuming original alternator. About time for a swap, eh?
#60
i would. $350+/- at someplace like pelican. a pcar dealer would probably charge 600 and probably "book time" on labor is a cpl hours, but can be almost be done in one.
if youre killing batteries like that? my guess is they're not getting charged.. and if the alt is original? yeah, i'd swap it.... GL w it.
i just dbl checked the price. the 350 is a reman bosch. i would get the new one for 450. its the same exact item as the "porsche" branded ( bosch ) for 600. again dont get a reman they fail faster..or so i am told.
if youre killing batteries like that? my guess is they're not getting charged.. and if the alt is original? yeah, i'd swap it.... GL w it.
i just dbl checked the price. the 350 is a reman bosch. i would get the new one for 450. its the same exact item as the "porsche" branded ( bosch ) for 600. again dont get a reman they fail faster..or so i am told.