Considering something crazy
06-04-2016, 08:55 AM
#31
Drifting
I will probably buy a nice 1987-88 911 or 993 after the elections but of course I do not need the level of performance that the 996tt provides as I don't track or go overboard on the street. I would like to buy a beater 996tt at some point to play with= I can do my own work lol.
06-04-2016, 02:30 PM
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Having had 930s and a 993tt, they are cool cars, but very slow compared to what you're used to.
I'd keep the 996tt as a Saturday car, your car is perfect IMO. X50 and x73!! You won't be able to stand the lack of performance of an early 911, be prepared they are slow and very expensive to maintain or make fast.
Unfortunately, due to the miles you'll never get what it's worth and it would cost you 70k to replicate the 996tt. Keep the 6
Been there done that got the t shirt.
I'd keep the 996tt as a Saturday car, your car is perfect IMO. X50 and x73!! You won't be able to stand the lack of performance of an early 911, be prepared they are slow and very expensive to maintain or make fast.
Unfortunately, due to the miles you'll never get what it's worth and it would cost you 70k to replicate the 996tt. Keep the 6
Been there done that got the t shirt.
06-04-2016, 03:07 PM
#33
Agree with TT Surgeon and others. I've owned a 912, 944, RS America, 993 and now 02 996TT x50. No desire to go backwards. If you had the money to do both, it would be different. My dream car GT3RS, maybe a GT4-but I've haven't driven either so.......
06-04-2016, 03:25 PM
#34
Drifting
Agree that it is a step backwards with power and handling etc but there is something about the older 911s that I like. For a car used only on weekends 6 months out of the year it would fit me well but do plan on getting a M3 or 996tt for more frequent use. I have cars sitting in storage I don't drive= it is a sickness lol.
06-04-2016, 08:32 PM
#35
Burning Brakes
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Having had 930s and a 993tt, they are cool cars, but very slow compared to what you're used to.
I'd keep the 996tt as a Saturday car, your car is perfect IMO. X50 and x73!! You won't be able to stand the lack of performance of an early 911, be prepared they are slow and very expensive to maintain or make fast.
Unfortunately, due to the miles you'll never get what it's worth and it would cost you 70k to replicate the 996tt. Keep the 6
Been there done that got the t shirt.
I'd keep the 996tt as a Saturday car, your car is perfect IMO. X50 and x73!! You won't be able to stand the lack of performance of an early 911, be prepared they are slow and very expensive to maintain or make fast.
Unfortunately, due to the miles you'll never get what it's worth and it would cost you 70k to replicate the 996tt. Keep the 6
Been there done that got the t shirt.
Always helpful to hear from someone with the t-shirt.
And the consensus builds.
06-05-2016, 09:43 AM
#36
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....just wait until you get into an older 911 rattle trap then a/b it against the pristine x73 car you have now. plus, if any tt's are going to increase in value it'll be cars such as yours. still say the idea is folly 
but i get it nonetheless. it's an itch. ha
but i get it nonetheless. it's an itch. ha
06-05-2016, 10:24 AM
#37
Burning Brakes
The last 72 hot rod I built (below), I used a 3.2 Carrera engine, and it was a great, fun car. 2300 lbs, 200+ HP. I used less than 1/2 the money I got when I sold it to buy my 996TT. And that brings up the key issue noted above: you are seeking a car that has become 'fashionable' suddenly and quadrupled in value over the past 6-7 years. Not a lot of bang for the buck. And most nice longhood cars now on the market for under $100K are compromised in some way. So you're going to pay a big price for fashion.
Personally, I bounce back and forth between "our" cars and longhoods. They each have their charms. But a major charm of the 996TT is bang for buck. Figure on spending a whole lot more than you get for selling yours, and settling for less 'bang' with a longhood.
06-05-2016, 10:59 AM
#39
I've owned around 60 older 911s, and built some pretty spectacular 72 hot rods. My hobby is sourcing or building longhood 911s. I can tell you they are completely different animals. Simpler, yes, but that means they are more crude as well. You can sort them endlessly and you can expect some component failures, as they are 43 years old and older...
The last 72 hot rod I built (below), I used a 3.2 Carrera engine, and it was a great, fun car. 2300 lbs, 200+ HP. I used less than 1/2 the money I got when I sold it to buy my 996TT. And that brings up the key issue noted above: you are seeking a car that has become 'fashionable' suddenly and quadrupled in value over the past 6-7 years. Not a lot of bang for the buck. And most nice longhood cars now on the market for under $100K are compromised in some way. So you're going to pay a big price for fashion.
Personally, I bounce back and forth between "our" cars and longhoods. They each have their charms. But a major charm of the 996TT is bang for buck. Figure on spending a whole lot more than you get for selling yours, and settling for less 'bang' with a longhood.
The last 72 hot rod I built (below), I used a 3.2 Carrera engine, and it was a great, fun car. 2300 lbs, 200+ HP. I used less than 1/2 the money I got when I sold it to buy my 996TT. And that brings up the key issue noted above: you are seeking a car that has become 'fashionable' suddenly and quadrupled in value over the past 6-7 years. Not a lot of bang for the buck. And most nice longhood cars now on the market for under $100K are compromised in some way. So you're going to pay a big price for fashion.
Personally, I bounce back and forth between "our" cars and longhoods. They each have their charms. But a major charm of the 996TT is bang for buck. Figure on spending a whole lot more than you get for selling yours, and settling for less 'bang' with a longhood.
I scored an allocation on a GT4 and jumped on it even before I had a chance to digest it, let alone drive one, its currently on the boat to down under. Should be here mid to late July. Oh I'm keeping the turbo, I dont think I'll ever let that go.
OP I'd think long and hard before letting go of your well sorted 996TT.
06-05-2016, 12:47 PM
#40
Drifting
Agree you cannot compare an older 911 to the 996tbut that goes for any car genre. Some people enjoy the old car feel/experience and wouldn't take a new 991 over their basket case 911s. Its all about what a person wants not what I or others think. The best advice I ever got was from my father= do what you want and make yourself happy.
06-05-2016, 01:00 PM
#41
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
I've owned around 60 older 911s, and built some pretty spectacular 72 hot rods. My hobby is sourcing or building longhood 911s. I can tell you they are completely different animals. Simpler, yes, but that means they are more crude as well. You can sort them endlessly and you can expect some component failures, as they are 43 years old and older...
The last 72 hot rod I built (below), I used a 3.2 Carrera engine, and it was a great, fun car. 2300 lbs, 200+ HP. I used less than 1/2 the money I got when I sold it to buy my 996TT. And that brings up the key issue noted above: you are seeking a car that has become 'fashionable' suddenly and quadrupled in value over the past 6-7 years. Not a lot of bang for the buck. And most nice longhood cars now on the market for under $100K are compromised in some way. So you're going to pay a big price for fashion.
Personally, I bounce back and forth between "our" cars and longhoods. They each have their charms. But a major charm of the 996TT is bang for buck. Figure on spending a whole lot more than you get for selling yours, and settling for less 'bang' with a longhood.
The last 72 hot rod I built (below), I used a 3.2 Carrera engine, and it was a great, fun car. 2300 lbs, 200+ HP. I used less than 1/2 the money I got when I sold it to buy my 996TT. And that brings up the key issue noted above: you are seeking a car that has become 'fashionable' suddenly and quadrupled in value over the past 6-7 years. Not a lot of bang for the buck. And most nice longhood cars now on the market for under $100K are compromised in some way. So you're going to pay a big price for fashion.
Personally, I bounce back and forth between "our" cars and longhoods. They each have their charms. But a major charm of the 996TT is bang for buck. Figure on spending a whole lot more than you get for selling yours, and settling for less 'bang' with a longhood.
Ditto that.
OMG 60 x 911's, is your surname Seinfeld?? I take my hat off to you. I agree about the older ones being completely different animals. I recently drove a neighbors pristine 3.2 and was shocked at how agricultural it felt, I used to have one back in the 90's and had very fond memories but boy have things changed.
I scored an allocation on a GT4 and jumped on it even before I had a chance to digest it, let alone drive one, its currently on the boat to down under. Should be here mid to late July. Oh I'm keeping the turbo, I dont think I'll ever let that go.
OP I'd think long and hard before letting go of your well sorted 996TT.
I scored an allocation on a GT4 and jumped on it even before I had a chance to digest it, let alone drive one, its currently on the boat to down under. Should be here mid to late July. Oh I'm keeping the turbo, I dont think I'll ever let that go.
OP I'd think long and hard before letting go of your well sorted 996TT.
My biggest fear would be to sell my '03 x50 and end with something that felt "agricultural". I'm not looking to go that far back into Porsche history.I took the turbo out for a nice long drive yesterday. It really is dialed in. I think the best advice is just to save up, do the hot rod later, and keep the turbo.
Perhaps with all these hot-rods being built these days, a few will start to filter back out into the marketplace at reasonable prices once they are less "in fashion".
Thanks to everyone who participated in the discussion and humored my temporary (recurring) madness.
06-05-2016, 01:30 PM
#42
just echoing previous remarks, the old air-coolers are fun cars, but not a substitute for a 996tt...I 'grew up' (LOL) in/around old 911's/914s/944s/etc and love them a lot, but in no way would I consider selling a good 996GT2/3/TT for one, but would add one for sure...
my dad fairly recently sold his very nice '84 930 and bought a 996tt, about a couple days a year he/we 'miss' it, the other 363days of the year he loves his 6tt far more...and it gets used...
Cheers,
my dad fairly recently sold his very nice '84 930 and bought a 996tt, about a couple days a year he/we 'miss' it, the other 363days of the year he loves his 6tt far more...and it gets used...
Cheers,
06-05-2016, 02:01 PM
#43
Drifting
Agree with most but you can play the its more refined etc for ever= how about moving from a 996tt to a new 991tt? He is better off financially keeping his car without a doubt and all things considered has the better car.
06-05-2016, 02:11 PM
#44
lol'd at the notion of an "agricultural" turbo!
perhaps you could write off a tractor as a legit business expense !
truly lending credence to the notion that it isn't how well you mow, it's how well you mow fast
side note.. congrats jimbo on the impending gt4!! now THAT is a "second car"!!!
perhaps you could write off a tractor as a legit business expense !
truly lending credence to the notion that it isn't how well you mow, it's how well you mow fast
side note.. congrats jimbo on the impending gt4!! now THAT is a "second car"!!!
06-05-2016, 04:40 PM
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I've owned around 60 older 911s, and built some pretty spectacular 72 hot rods. My hobby is sourcing or building longhood 911s. I can tell you they are completely different animals. Simpler, yes, but that means they are more crude as well. You can sort them endlessly and you can expect some component failures, as they are 43 years old and older...
The last 72 hot rod I built (below), I used a 3.2 Carrera engine, and it was a great, fun car. 2300 lbs, 200+ HP. I used less than 1/2 the money I got when I sold it to buy my 996TT. And that brings up the key issue noted above: you are seeking a car that has become 'fashionable' suddenly and quadrupled in value over the past 6-7 years. Not a lot of bang for the buck. And most nice longhood cars now on the market for under $100K are compromised in some way. So you're going to pay a big price for fashion.
Personally, I bounce back and forth between "our" cars and longhoods. They each have their charms. But a major charm of the 996TT is bang for buck. Figure on spending a whole lot more than you get for selling yours, and settling for less 'bang' with a longhood.
The last 72 hot rod I built (below), I used a 3.2 Carrera engine, and it was a great, fun car. 2300 lbs, 200+ HP. I used less than 1/2 the money I got when I sold it to buy my 996TT. And that brings up the key issue noted above: you are seeking a car that has become 'fashionable' suddenly and quadrupled in value over the past 6-7 years. Not a lot of bang for the buck. And most nice longhood cars now on the market for under $100K are compromised in some way. So you're going to pay a big price for fashion.
Personally, I bounce back and forth between "our" cars and longhoods. They each have their charms. But a major charm of the 996TT is bang for buck. Figure on spending a whole lot more than you get for selling yours, and settling for less 'bang' with a longhood.
When I bought my 930s for 50k it was cool, good bang for the buck, but at 100k no thanx
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