Considering something crazy
#17
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
YES! don't do it man! my 993 as fun as it was? was a 275 hp go kart with tailwag to DIE for and i still "play" mcqueen daily on mulholland!
seriously.. you'll ( i would, anyway..) regret going a/c unless it was a SECOND 911. i mean, they are gorgeous, classic, and all that good stuff. but ours beats them ( a/c older 911's ) in every way and according to all here the 96T WILL be a "classic" "someday" i'm still waiting .. but ya get my drift!
( please man.. you give 996 turbo owners a good name lol cheers )
ADD: unless you grab a "singer" for 200k LOL. then all bets are off
seriously.. you'll ( i would, anyway..) regret going a/c unless it was a SECOND 911. i mean, they are gorgeous, classic, and all that good stuff. but ours beats them ( a/c older 911's ) in every way and according to all here the 96T WILL be a "classic" "someday" i'm still waiting .. but ya get my drift!
( please man.. you give 996 turbo owners a good name lol cheers )
ADD: unless you grab a "singer" for 200k LOL. then all bets are off
I was considering building the "poor man's Singer".
I'm not a big a/c user, even in the heat. I only run my a/c every 4-6 weeks to keep the seals lubed.
#18
The ad is too wordy.
Anyone really looking knows what welded coolant lines are and what it costs.
Ditto the X50.
How many miles -you- did doesn't belong either IMO, just the service info and upgrades.
Listing the options could be done better with a window sticker picture.
YMMV but you asked for feedback on the ad. I look for less verbiage and more detail.
As to the hotrod, I think it's a great idea. Love the color.
I'd find a way to keep the TT though if you can. I think you'll miss it.
Anyone really looking knows what welded coolant lines are and what it costs.
Ditto the X50.
How many miles -you- did doesn't belong either IMO, just the service info and upgrades.
Listing the options could be done better with a window sticker picture.
YMMV but you asked for feedback on the ad. I look for less verbiage and more detail.
As to the hotrod, I think it's a great idea. Love the color.
I'd find a way to keep the TT though if you can. I think you'll miss it.
#19
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
Your candor is appreciated, Alan. I'll make the adjustments you recommended, if I decide to proceed with a sale ad.
You're in the minority being in the hot-rod camp. I LOVE my car EVERY time I drive it. Then I get in front of this computer, start looking at hot-rods, and the song of the sirens begins to beckon. To be honest, I'm a big fan of "the hunt", as well.
I think Rick's advice about not paying a premium for a unique factory color on a hot-rod build is solid. The car I've found would be a great starting point, though...non-sunroof, widebody work completed, clean interior, currently running. Bringing the performance level into an acceptable range would be a longer term project. In the meantime, I'd be driving something with all bark and no bite that could be outrun by a modern Toyota (or a modern anything for that matter).
You're in the minority being in the hot-rod camp. I LOVE my car EVERY time I drive it. Then I get in front of this computer, start looking at hot-rods, and the song of the sirens begins to beckon. To be honest, I'm a big fan of "the hunt", as well.
I think Rick's advice about not paying a premium for a unique factory color on a hot-rod build is solid. The car I've found would be a great starting point, though...non-sunroof, widebody work completed, clean interior, currently running. Bringing the performance level into an acceptable range would be a longer term project. In the meantime, I'd be driving something with all bark and no bite that could be outrun by a modern Toyota (or a modern anything for that matter).
#20
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The car I've found would be a great starting point, though...non-sunroof, widebody work completed, clean interior, currently running. Bringing the performance level into an acceptable range would be a longer term project. In the meantime, I'd be driving something with all bark and no bite that could be outrun by a modern Toyota (or a modern anything for that matter).
Buy one when you have both. Wouldn't it suck to have a slower, poorer handling car you're trying to complete while you watch the well sorted fun to drive daily car appreciate?
The 89 M3 I drove daily for years, then gave to my wife to drive when I bought a 964 both go for about what these go for too but you'd never get to trade my turbo for one. Not going to make same mistake a 3rd time
#21
my .49..
think the add as written is perfect though i would save the coolant info for discussion with a serious prospect as i don't think it's advisable to advertise a cars *potential* shortcomings, but would certainly mention the 2k you spent in negotiations once you're into them.
as for the x50 designation having had one myself, i would absolutely mention that as it WAS a $17,800.00 option and as such should of course be mentioned. i have had 5 911's and didn't have a clue what the x50 was until i had decided upon the 996 turbo as my next. point is, it was a highly desirable option worthy of mention, regardless of how superfluous and outdated the few items an x50 car may now seem.
still, i'm going to singlehandledly try and talk you out of selling it even if i have to drive over the hill to ronald reagans freeway to do it! lol
think the add as written is perfect though i would save the coolant info for discussion with a serious prospect as i don't think it's advisable to advertise a cars *potential* shortcomings, but would certainly mention the 2k you spent in negotiations once you're into them.
as for the x50 designation having had one myself, i would absolutely mention that as it WAS a $17,800.00 option and as such should of course be mentioned. i have had 5 911's and didn't have a clue what the x50 was until i had decided upon the 996 turbo as my next. point is, it was a highly desirable option worthy of mention, regardless of how superfluous and outdated the few items an x50 car may now seem.
still, i'm going to singlehandledly try and talk you out of selling it even if i have to drive over the hill to ronald reagans freeway to do it! lol
#22
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
I drove an '86.5 928 for 12 years as my one and only. By the end, I couldn't wait to get into something newer. I was younger then. Now, I'm getting old and nostalgic.
my .49..
think the add as written is perfect though i would save the coolant info for discussion with a serious prospect as i don't think it's advisable to advertise a cars *potential* shortcomings, but would certainly mention the 2k you spent in negotiations once you're into them.
as for the x50 designation having had one myself, i would absolutely mention that as it WAS a $17,800.00 option and as such should of course be mentioned. i have had 5 911's and didn't have a clue what the x50 was until i had decided upon the 996 turbo as my next. point is, it was a highly desirable option worthy of mention, regardless of how superfluous and outdated the few items an x50 car may now seem.
still, i'm going to singlehandledly try and talk you out of selling it even if i have to drive over the hill to ronald reagans freeway to do it! lol
think the add as written is perfect though i would save the coolant info for discussion with a serious prospect as i don't think it's advisable to advertise a cars *potential* shortcomings, but would certainly mention the 2k you spent in negotiations once you're into them.
as for the x50 designation having had one myself, i would absolutely mention that as it WAS a $17,800.00 option and as such should of course be mentioned. i have had 5 911's and didn't have a clue what the x50 was until i had decided upon the 996 turbo as my next. point is, it was a highly desirable option worthy of mention, regardless of how superfluous and outdated the few items an x50 car may now seem.
still, i'm going to singlehandledly try and talk you out of selling it even if i have to drive over the hill to ronald reagans freeway to do it! lol
I'm starting to think this is just some semi-annual cycle I've recently fallen into...getting the itch for something different. Plus, I do enjoy that hunt.
You have an open invite to come back to the Ojai anytime you like, man. Though, I'm hoping to return to a relative state of saneness on my own....soon.
#23
Considering something crazy
The comparison between an old 911 and a 996tt is really difficult. I'm not in the "don't do it" camp.
If I have to drive 200 miles on the interstate I'd much rather be in the 996tt. Driving high speeds in multi lane traffic with a single mirror 42 year old car is not very pleasant at all.
If I can drive 50 miles at 40 to 50 miles per hour on the backroads at sunset on a warm summer evening, I'll take the 1974 any time, there's no comparison. HP isn't always everything.
If I have to drive 200 miles on the interstate I'd much rather be in the 996tt. Driving high speeds in multi lane traffic with a single mirror 42 year old car is not very pleasant at all.
If I can drive 50 miles at 40 to 50 miles per hour on the backroads at sunset on a warm summer evening, I'll take the 1974 any time, there's no comparison. HP isn't always everything.
#24
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
My turbo IS dialed in, but I do long for an AC hot-rod. Singer isn't in the cards. A '74 Euro Carrera is no longer in the cards. I figure the next best thing is to build my own.
#26
Maybe you could cross-post in the 911 section and see what people say. I'd expect some thoughtful responses.
#27
Rennlist Member
I think the old 911s are great cars, but nowhere near worth the money they are getting now. It is crazy. And they are very expensive to fix or parts especially now. I think the 996turbo is an absolute great car and far superior to these old 911s that went for 15k less than 5 years ago. Also, I am not sure if you are going to build the car or have it done but expect it to take longer and more expensive than you think. I would wait to find someone who has built one of these and is having trouble selling it and willing to give you a good price, maybe you could have both. If you want your car to work and go fast and window switches work etc, keep the turbo.
#28
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
I want crank windows and no air-conditioner.
#29
your thread is reminding me of how much i enjoyed my 993 in spite of it being exactly half the power of the turbo i now have. there is something indescribably fun about even 993 carerra coupe all the way down to the "thump" of the doors upon closing. i'd have another.
if you don't have experience with them? it might suit your desires exactly. i often long for one again. best of the a/c cars in my book.
except they have pwr windows and AC.
if you don't have experience with them? it might suit your desires exactly. i often long for one again. best of the a/c cars in my book.
except they have pwr windows and AC.
#30
keep the 996TT, add a well-kept 914-4