Mezger engines...End of an Era?
03-25-2016, 11:59 AM
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Mezger engines...End of an Era?
I received the latest copy of Panorama a few days ago and I found this snip in the "European Windows" section. I think we all knew this was coming, I just wasn't sure it was already here. I know that since 997.2 Turbo the only way to get a new Mezger car was in GT/Motorsport models so now it appears that even these are switching to production motors.
Edit: So the gist of the article is that ZERO Porsche cars will use the Mezger anymore. After 997.2 no road cars had a Mezger and as of now even for motorsport, Porsche has totally phased out the Mezger engines. (Thanks Rob & Rick for clearing this up for me)
I tried to copy/paste the article from a couple pages in the mag so it would make sense below....
Edit: So the gist of the article is that ZERO Porsche cars will use the Mezger anymore. After 997.2 no road cars had a Mezger and as of now even for motorsport, Porsche has totally phased out the Mezger engines. (Thanks Rob & Rick for clearing this up for me)
I tried to copy/paste the article from a couple pages in the mag so it would make sense below....
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03-25-2016, 12:29 PM
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last Mezger engine in a Turbo was 2009. 2010+/997.2 isn't Mezger
997's GT2RS and GT3 4.0 were last road Mezger-engined cars
997's GT2RS and GT3 4.0 were last road Mezger-engined cars
03-25-2016, 12:32 PM
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Yup, that's what I meant... was that from the 997.2 Turbo onward the Turbo was no longer Mezger based but you could still get a Mezger in GT/Motorsport cars. Seems like now even the motorsport cars will no longer be Mezger based on this article (basically NO cars will use a Mezger any more, if I understand correctly?). Also, sounds like they didn't really want to make the switch but regulations and lower cost were the driving factors.
03-25-2016, 12:44 PM
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Motorsports is a niche of a niche. As far as I'm concerned mezger crankcase was phased out with the 997.2.
03-25-2016, 12:51 PM
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I thought 991.1 GT3 still used Mezger, my bad. I understand that motorsport 991 did still use Mezger up until now when they are completely phasing it out. So basically Porsche has now totally phased out Mezgers. I thought there would be a little more of a send off for their go to warrior motor after all these years of service rather than a few paragraphs tucked away in the mag. Cheers to you Hans and your amazing work 
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03-25-2016, 03:07 PM
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The Mezger was clearly great but it had become a bit of a Frankenstein engine. Porsche kept adding systems to it and at the end it just became too heavy for the amount of HP they could get out of it in NA form.
The new engines still maintain the Mezger's basic geometry so in a way it lives on.
The new engines still maintain the Mezger's basic geometry so in a way it lives on.
03-25-2016, 04:11 PM
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I received the latest copy of Panorama a few days ago and I found this snip in the "European Windows" section. I think we all knew this was coming, I just wasn't sure it was already here. I know that since 997.2 Turbo the only way to get a new Mezger car was in GT/Motorsport models so now it appears that even these are switching to production motors. Edit: So the gist of the article is that ZERO Porsche cars will use the Mezger anymore. After 997.2 no road cars had a Mezger and as of now even for motorsport, Porsche has totally phased out the Mezger engines. (Thanks Rob & Rick for clearing this up for me) I tried to copy/paste the article from a couple pages in the mag so it would make sense below....
If my memory is correct Porsche has been waiting for confirmation on future regulations. Turbocharge/mid engine?
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03-25-2016, 04:34 PM
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They speak about this in the article.. turbo vs NA and they decided to go NA for motorsport with production motor rather than Mezger. I made the article into a JPG in my first post are you guys not able to see the article??
I can try to make it into a PDF and post it if you can't see it.
I can try to make it into a PDF and post it if you can't see it.
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03-25-2016, 10:49 PM
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I can say the two 991 cars in the IMSA circuit, 911, and 912 running in the GTLM class have been pretty competitive. The 12hrs of Sebring both cars were pretty fast. 911 crashed with corvette leaving 912 to finish 3rd in class.
03-26-2016, 01:26 AM
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I have to disagree, the Mezger motor has extreme flexibility more then any other engine in pretty much every way. I don't doubt you can make a motor lighter and cheaper though which could be a great benefit to the race team but from my understanding the new race motor has yet to be completed for the GTLM/RSR cars because the current N/A motors go BOOOM when you try to make the power.
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03-26-2016, 11:17 AM
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I have to disagree, the Mezger motor has extreme flexibility more then any other engine in pretty much every way. I don't doubt you can make a motor lighter and cheaper though which could be a great benefit to the race team but from my understanding the new race motor has yet to be completed for the GTLM/RSR cars because the current N/A motors go BOOOM when you try to make the power.
As for the new race motors blowing up that is par for course with a new engine. Porsche blew up plenty of Mezgers back in the early 60s getting it ready for racing. And that process is what made the Mezger the near bullet proof engine we have today.
Do not get me wrong. I love the Mezger, especially the 3.2. I rank the 3.2 as one of the best engines of all time.
03-26-2016, 11:20 AM
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03-26-2016, 07:15 PM
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The RSR cars are still running the Mezger motor. Black Swan is running the new motor in the GT3 R. Someone needs to get a few photos of one because I bet its dumbed up pretty bad with an external dry sump system.
I have to disagree, the Mezger motor has extreme flexibility more then any other engine in pretty much every way. I don't doubt you can make a motor lighter and cheaper though which could be a great benefit to the race team but from my understanding the new race motor has yet to be completed for the GTLM/RSR cars because the current N/A motors go BOOOM when you try to make the power.
I have to disagree, the Mezger motor has extreme flexibility more then any other engine in pretty much every way. I don't doubt you can make a motor lighter and cheaper though which could be a great benefit to the race team but from my understanding the new race motor has yet to be completed for the GTLM/RSR cars because the current N/A motors go BOOOM when you try to make the power.