The Prestige Thread - Finest 996TT Market Finds
 

There seems to be a sentiment that many wish to focus on the upper end of the 996TT market rather than dwell on the, ahem, under $40,000 market.
So, let's limit this thread to identifying those cars on the market that represent the cream of the crop. Find a truly outstanding car on the market that deserves recognition? Post it here. No bargain basement finds please!
I'll start. Here's a great one in my favorite color:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Porsche-911-...m=121865521585

2004 X50 cabriolet, tippy, guards red over gray, 18,975 miles. Buy It Now price $68,895.


https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...ee24c486d.jpeg

2001 Black on Black, 6 speed coupe, 37,000 miles. Seller's description (typos courtesy of the owner):

911 Gambela Bi-turbo Fully loaded 1 owner Over $226,000 investedFull carbon fiber interiorCarbon fiber hood578 horse powerRacing clutchGarage keptExcellent conditionSpecial 18 inch racing wheelsSpecial order from GambelaFirst in the U.S.Fully serviced books and record. Must sell. PLEASE CONTACT ONLY SUNDAY THROUGH FRIDAY.
Read more at http://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/de...R381xZEIEiB.99

No pics to share on this one. Listed at $78,000.

Wow - here's one at Porsche of Rancho Mirage with only 4,850 miles! 2004 Black on Black cabriolet, 6 speed. Offered at just a tick under $70,000.

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...991b96904.jpeg

Another wonderfully low mileage example: 5,925 miles. 2002, slate gray over black 6-speed coupe. Asking price $69,950.
Seller's description:

Factory new condition 100% original, stored in heated garaged 100% of the time. Only driven on nice days, never driven in the rain or snow. Never raced. Custom ordered from Stevens Creek Porsche in Santa Clara. Probably not another vehicle like it given the low millage and the factory options. Includes Porsche cover.

Has stock GPS unit and Bose audio. Sunroof and full leather interior including headliner. Back seat never used. Only driven by one driver. Clean title.

More photos coming soon, very rare to find a 02 Turbo with so few miles and in 100% original condition. All service up to date. Definitely a candidate for a car collector.

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...c190b6a29.jpeg


https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...e934a0479.jpeg

You know what they say about talking to yourself, KC...
:p

^ This car (2002 slate gray) is nice enough to make think about another 996t= love it.

This thread....lol

Careful KC...now you're talking used 991.1 $$$

Its refreshing to see some clean examples even if some of the prices are a little high.

my car 80,000$ 1000 rwhp +

Here's one that might make you think just a little. Offered by Isringhausen, which if you know anything Porsche, well then, you know. 2011 Turbo S PDK. All the goodies. Asking $82,900.
http://www.isringhausen.com/Inventor...ehicleID/13755

Seller's description:
This Track Ready 2011 Porsche 911 Turbo S that we sold new comes back to us on trade. This Porsche Turbo S comes with a clean CARFAX and a one owner vehicle history. This Turbo S Coupe is ready to race! The previous owner added many great Aftermarket mods to this Turbo that include New Springs, Rotors, Brake Pads, a Front Control Arm, Brake Lines, Braces for the Radiator, Cermaic Brakes (Orginal PCCB Brake Rotors included) and new Rear Brake Ducts. In addition this Turbo S Coupe has the Factory Sport Bucket Seats! Under the hood this turbo S has a twin-turbocharged and intercooled DOHC 24-valve flat-6, aluminum block and heads, direct fuel injection good for 530 hp @ 6250 rpm and 516 lb-ft @ 2100 rpm. This is the perfect car for entry level racing or a seasoned veteran who can push this Porsche to its limits. Contact a Sales specialist by calling 877-362-9715. Isringhausen Imports is Central Illinois' premier new car, used car and certified pre-owned (CPO) dealership for quality BMW, Porsche, Volvo and Mercedes-Benz new and used vehicles. Looking to buy used cars? Isringhausen Imports is the place to go for quality new cars and used cars for sale.

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2005 Turbo S cab, 6 speed, 16,400 miles, beautiful Slate gray over graphite. Asking $67,800. You'd think they might provide a second key at that price point. :rolleyes:
https://www.carsforsale.com/vehicle/details/14706200

Seller's Description:
2005 Porsche 911 Turbo S Cabriolet Slate Grey Metallic Exterior over Graphite Grey Interior 18 SPORT TECHNO WHEELS! ONLY 16K MILES! **ORIGINAL WINDOW STICKER LIST: $150,975 FACTORY OPTIONS INCLUDE: Slate Grey Metallic (Originally $2,245) 18 Sport Techno Wheels (Originally $1,810) Delete Cabrio Hardtop (Originally $1,485) Park Assist System (Originally $530) Heated Front Seats (Originally $480) Supple Leather for Front and Rear (Originally $395) Lumbar Support for Left Seat (Originally $385) PORSCHE EXCLUSIVE OPTIONS: Aluminum/Leather Shifter and Brake Handle Sport Shifter Porsche Crest in Headrests Deviated Carpet Color Front and Rear Seats Stitched in Deviated Color Door and Dash Stitching in Deviated Color VEHICLE HIGHLIGHTS: 3.6 Liter Twin-Turbo 6 Cylinder Engine -444 Horsepower- -457 lb/ft of Torque- All Wheel Drive 6-Speed Manual Transmission 18 Alloy Wheels Power Adjustable Heated Exterior Mirrors Intermittent Windshield Wipers Automatic Running Bi-Xenon Headlights Ceramic Composite Breaking System Yellow Finished Brake Calipers Power Folding Soft Top Rear Parking Sensors Exterior Spoiler in Body Color Power Adjustable Heated Front Seats Dual-Zone Climate Control Garmin Navigation System Sirius XM Radio BOSE Sound System Universal Garage Opener VEHICLE HISTORY: Only Two Previous Owners! Excellent Condition Throughout! Only 16k Miles! INCLUDES: *One Master Key* *Original Window Sticker* *Service Records Book*


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What is 991.1 $$$, $69k?

I'm thoroughly confused by the point, purpose and direction of this thread of yours. i mean, i got the first one "ebay finds or anything related anyone might locate with a simple search" etc.. again, that i "got". but this one has me a bit perplexed.

is it about" "nice ( any/all ) 911's "for sale" or more specifically "pristine and unrealistically priced porsche turbo's". or a little of both?

Ok, those are pricey.....

so what about a 05 turbo S for around $107,000

http://www.jzmporsche.com/porsche-fo...s-for-sale-773

or a 2004 GT2 for about $200,000

http://www.jzmporsche.com/porsche-fo...2-for-sale-776

Just did a nationwide search for all MY2013 991.1's. Highest Price:$126,995 Lowest Price:$56,999 Average Price:$79,254. There are dozens under $60k with mileage under 20k.

Also, all those 2-3 year leases are coming back to the Dealerships.

mcbit - Nice finds, keep 'em coming.

The Prestige Thread - Finest 996TT Market Finds
 

Edit: I thought you meant 991 turbos which would have been absurd. So never mind.

Now Gonzo, this ain't "The Bargain Bin Thread", now is it? This thread is like an oasis - a healing spot for the troubled and weary soul of any 996tt owner. Let's keep it classy in here (which of course also means no gifs, memes or YouTube videos please ).

Just when I thought you may be growing up= I'm back to my original opinion Kc.

What has offended you now Randy? I asked not to muck this thread up with bargain basement comparisons, gifs, memes or videos and you are upset about that?

I'm married to an attorney and can understand some of the bs like weary soul but all this thread is a back handed insult with a tinge of lets get the new low ball buyer insulted so they can join in. Already you are bringing in 991s to flame the fire. Don't call me by my first name unless you sign off with yours.

rmc1148 - Why even have a "find it cheap thread", or a "high end thread". Why does this forum need to be a "Sales Board" except for those posting up their actual individual sale?? It is however obvious why both threads were started.

Exactly Dock its a way for people to start trouble and sit back and laugh.

Well, I see people refer to you as Randy on a regular basis and you don't seem to mind. But once again, you are offended. Ironically, you seem to think it's OK to refer to me as "ass" on a regular basis. And then you tell me to grow up. Of the two of us, I am the only one who hasn't resorted to namecalling. I prefer to make my points with a little light-hearted humor so that maybe we can still disagree and still have a little fun and camaraderie.

As for the purpose of this thread, I understand your concern that focusing on the low end of the market unfairly skews opinion and degrades the conversation. I may not agree with that, but I understand.

My hope here was that you and others who share that concern would have a thread that addresses that concern. I also hope that it will cut down on the persistent posts of "you realize that car is a ticking time bomb and cannot possibly be a good car" every time someone posts asking for an opinion on a car priced in the $30k's. Yes, we understand your prejudice against all lower priced cars, but the issue is evaluating the car in question.

I would prefer "Jeff" if that suits you better.

If someone asks for an opinion I will continue to give mine. When someone starts out looking for a car of this complexity with a low budget and limited mechanical skills I consider it a recipe for disaster so I give a heads up. Also the questionable repairs some people do undermine a great car in my opinion and they are better off with something they can afford to repair properly. My favorite is how people that will spend god knows what on exhaust upgraded turbos etc but complain and skimp when they need say an alternator etc. Thanks Jeff for the civil response.
Randy

And of the two of you, you are the only one who thinks it's ethical to post up PM's on the open forum.

I didn't catch that. Kc I have never reported anything to anyone and if I did I would PM whomever it involved and tell them of my intentions first. If someone reported you or someone you know it wasn't me period.

This is a good thread, please let's keep it going. I find it soothing to see that someone somewhere may have paid more than me for a 996tt :thumbsup:

Most people pay good money for clean examples they just don't advertise it here. I believe you had a trans problem but that is something that was unforeseen. The price of a nice 996t is still on par of say a loaded f150.

Randy - Well said. Thank you.

The real question is are people buying these cars at those prices? If so we all need to ride the wave. My daughter wants to do cheerleading and I just got some prices back on uniforms, training etc.
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...e1ba609f8.jpeg

2003 tt 27K miles X50, GT2 front, lowered all at factory $40K from a dealer.

Listing? That's seems really cheap.

^ Based on his signature, I think he owns it.

Remember fellas, we aren't going for bargains in this thread. The argument is that we aren't basing the market on the smoking good deals. We are looking at the very top portion of the market and what someone can expect, on average, to pay for a top end car.

Great deals should be posted in the Craigslist thread.
Stephencs601 - I would like to hear more details on your car. Could I ask you to post it here, though?:

https://rennlist.com/forums/996-turb...-finds-19.html

Mark - Sorry, just noticed the question in your post. See the immediately preceding post for the purpose of this thread.

Basically, if your primary concern is the highest quality 996tt you can find and you really don't care about spending a little more in order to have a top notch buying experience, what cars are out there on the market? Price is a secondary or even tertiary factor. Some people are not interested in trying to get cheapest deal. Or going to extreme lengths to squeeze the last dollar out of a seller. Or take a risk on a car because it may have an unknown provenance. It is absolutely true that one major repair on a bargain basement 996tt can push the actual or effective purchase price up into the range of the top tier of cars. So, some people prefer to focus on the top end of the market. That's who this thread is for.
Personally, I'm generally more of a bargain basement shopper for most significant purchases (I suspect that isn't a shocker). But there is wisdom in the opposite. As John Ruskin said:

“It's unwise to pay too much, but it's worse to pay too little. When
you pay too much, you lose a little money - that's all. When you pay
too little, you sometimes lose everything, because the thing you
bought was incapable of doing the thing it was bought to do. The
common law of business balance prohibits paying a little and getting a
lot - it can't be done. If you deal with the lowest bidder, it is well
to add something for the risk you run, and if you do that you will
have enough to pay for something better.”

Can't see sigs on Garage Talk. But he said "from a dealer". :confused:

The former owner of the shop I posted from is a mate of mine... and yes they do sell for the posted prices.

Gorgeous 2001 Speed Yellow over black coupe with only 6,000 miles in New York. 6 speed. Sport seats with deviated stitching. Asking $75,000

http://www.cargurus.com/Cars/invento...sting=72994449


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800 days with zero price changes...lol

thx kc. I'm still confused, but thats normal too.

Gorgeous indeed. Interesting that the rest of that dealer's inventory seems to be sub-$10k hondas and pickup trucks.

What year did they change turbo headlights, or were they always like mk2 996? Never mind I just searched 2001 pics.

Might the principle's car.

Also"Quickway" Exotic Auto Sales?? 801 days on Car Gurus. Wonder what "Normalways" would take?

Thinking this one qualifies for The Prestige Thread :P


http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Porsche-911-T...E:B:SS:CA:3160

And possibly this one too....even if it is a Tip :P


http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Porsche-911-T...E:B:SS:CA:1120

^That is a very good price, if only it was a hardtop. Was refereeing to the vert but the 01 is well priced also= good deals.

I think this one is way underpriced...it has the uber rare 5-speed transmission option. :p

You got that right Dude I would pay up for either car in a minute if they checked out.

2nd gear pop out issue rendering that gear redundant....hence the 5 speed mutated derivative :P


Nice catch Th Dude !!

Mecum Auction has an 01 996 TT with only 9900 miles. Not sure if it has hit the block yet. If it sells that would give a pretty good benchmark for the value of a pristine example. https://www.mecum.com/lot-detail/FL0...Turbo/6-Speed/

Lightly optioned with some wood but nice color= will be interesting.

KC/Jeff thanks for the thread, enjoying it!

Thanks Chris! I think it has turned into a nice alternative to the Craigslist thread. I truly am enjoying it. Just focusing on the top echelon of cars definitely gives me a different perspective than when I was shopping. I focused on the bottom probably 1/3 of the market then.

The Prestige Thread - Finest 996TT Market Finds
 

Edit: it's already in the auction thread

Sold at $51,000 this afternoon.

New winner

http://m.ebay.com/itm/Porsche-911-Tu....c100408.m2460

I'll play.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Porsche-911-996-Turbo-GT2-/301847327893?forcerrptr=true&hash=item464780b495:g:mKIAAOSwsB9WCwB~&item =301847327893

docboy - That's cheatin': it's a GT2. But nice try. Now go find a "regular" 996tt that is exceptional and try again. You can't win if you don't play!

Thought I could sneak that GT2 in here, guess not :)

I'll keep looking.

Sad to say but that thing belongs in a museum. It's too bad there were so few made.

Some nice ones indeed- I just made one of them mine!

Oregonian - Very cool - which one?

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...bbc18de8c.jpeg



This one. They came down significantly on price. I plan on keeping it for 5-10 years and driving it about 2-3k per year. I wanted a really solid, low mileage car with complete service history and this one had it.

Even though it was just what I was looking for, I wasn't game at anywhere close to the asking price. They were very reasonable dealing on the price and we came to terms. The seller is located about 800 miles from me, so I will either fly in and drive it home, or trailer it with my truck (depends on the weather)!

Since I keep my cars for a long time, I always get the nicest one within my budget. Value is what I go for- a nice, solid car at a reasonable price.

Oh, and it even came with both keys!:cheers:

Sweet - two keys. That part of their ad made me chuckle. That's a really striking color combo. Not that it's your primary concern, but I bet when the time does come to sell that you don't lose a dime on it. I think all of the 996's are hitting the bottom of their depreciation curve. I'm not saying that they will begin to appreciate any time soon, but I truly believe that now is the time to buy any one of the varieties of 996.
That being said, most of us don't buy as an investment, so enjoy the heck out of that beautiful car. Mine makes me smile every time I see it. Congratulations!

Thanks. I buy to drive and enjoy, but with an eye on not taking a big hit on resale. I have been on the sidelines watching patiently for a couple of years, and I agree that it seems to be a good time pick up a nice 996TT or GT3.

Congratz on your find!

Agree with kcatattorney. I've also been in the hunt for a 996tt for a while now, and have noticed 996tt prices have definitely bottomed out on the depreciation curve; comparatively 997tt appeared to have leveled out for a while as well, but I've noticed 997tt prices have actually started to drop the past few months. Not sure if it's seasonal or for what reason.

I have a PPI being conducted next week on a 996tt, so we'll see what happens :)

What do you guys think this one is worth? Definitely not the $59k price tag, but if it was under $50k, I would be seriously considering it.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/301853942067?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

Another nice soft top

http://wwwa.autotrader.ca/a/Porsche/...O&orup=1_15_20

I assume that's Canadian dollars on that cabriolet.

They can't quite seem to make up their mind if it's a coupe or a cab- but the pictures kind of give it away...

Loonies and kilos I would guess.

I called on that one while I was searching. Single owner, low miles, very well maintained- but seemed a bit high on pricing to me. I think it would be a very nice buy at a lower price point.

If I liked it I would pay up, looks very nice.

I don't think that price is far off. I paid over $50k to a dealer/flipper for an X50 with similar mileage.

Understood. That 996tt is out of my price range then :)


Thoughts on this one? Looks very clean. Spoke with the dealer and seems the car was well maintained (he is a sales person so I know he will say anything). But judging from the pics car looks to be in great shape. One downside for me it is a 2001, I really want a 2002+. But it does come with full leather and sport seats and low miles which is a big plus for me and offsets 2002+ requirement I had. Is $45k too much for a well maintained 2001?

http://www.chariotsofpb.com/Chariots...AB29951S686554

I think those wheels are not very good looking. For a 2001, if Blswan is still selling his, I think it's a nicer car.

Nope, wheels would definitely go. Not a fan either but they are not cheap so I can resell them and get something better. It has exhaust and tune (not a great one) so I won't have to spend money on that. I plan on doing wheels, suspension, tune and exhaust when I get a 996tt. This one has most of that done. Other then the wheels, is the price too high for a clean 2001tt? Are 2001 generally way cheaper then 2002+?

Blswan car is red. I am only interested in blk/blk/6 spd/ no supple seats. Just never really considered a 2001until I saw that one.

Do the research miles matter as much or more than year. There are graphs showing relation of year/mile-price if you search. Mines a late build 2001 and price mentioned wouldn't buy it. I like the wheels other than being 19s.

This depends on what is meant by "full leather". The 996 Turbo has always had a leather interior from the factory. To this leather interior the car could be ordered with one of the following leather options:

Option E70 - "Leather Interior Package", where the following are covered in leather: lower part of instrument panel, trim molding groove for upper dashboard, side fresh air vents, defroster cover, frame speaker cover, center air vents, carrier for heater control, frame of air conditioner, switch covers left and right, and ignition lock rosette.

Or

Option E74 -" Small Leather Interior Package", where the following are covered in leather: lower part of instrument panel, trim molding groove for upper dashboard, center air vents, carrier for heater control, frame of air conditioner, switch covers left and right, and ignition lock rosette.

Or

Option P55 - "Full Leather Interior Package", where the following Instrument surround, trim molding groove, side air vents and slats, defroster trim, speaker cover, central air vent frame, frame for heater/air conditioner control unit, left, right, and lower switch covers, ignition rosette, rear center console, switch covers, ashtray cover, handbrake cover, lid for storage, sunvisors, cover for vanity mirror, front center console, CD or tape shelf and switch cover.

It seems that owners and used car dealers (and maybe even Porsche dealers) don't really understand what the 996 Turbo came with in stock form and/or what the option codes are.

I see many people here looking for or having bought a 996 Turbo stating that the car has "full leather". If the car's option codes do not include either E70, E74 or P55, then the car has the stock leather. The only "full leather" option is E55. If you don't have E55 listed as an option code, then you don't have "full leather".

Thanks Dock! Let me try to get a picture of the option codes and see which one it comes with.

I was questioning the full leather description myself,need to check codes in order to know what the real deal is as Dock noted.

I emailed the dealer to take a picture of the code sticker.

I'm offering $44k for the car. I think that is a fair price but dealer isn't budging too much.

That looks like a nice car. If the ppi checks out, give him what he wants, what's a few $$ if you get the car you want.

It seams the car doesn't have any of the option codes Dock mentioned. Still not a huge deal breaker. The car is very clean and I'm very tempted. I spoke with the GM and we agreed on a price that I'm satisfied with.

Congratz! Car looks very clean from the pics. How was the PPI?

The exhaust and headers are a good bonus; that (and the tune to a lesser extent) IMO are tasteful mods that add good value to the vehicle.

Not sure yet. Dealer stated they will pay for ppi if I'm serious about the purchase. Not sure if I should be worried about them sending the car out for a ppi and getting bias report. If ppi comes back with anything I'm not happy about the deposit is refunded....

I'm about 1300 miles away from the dealership so it's not like I can just swing by and take care of stuff myself. Still debating if I should pull the trigger or just hang on for something a bit closer to me.

Not too crazy about the tune. I think Champion motorsports just does a can GIAC tune but I can be wrong. I have Markski down the street from me so he would eventually retune it.

Maybe a local member could lay eyes on it for a report and suggest good ppi spot.

xmaciek82x, I agree with rmc... I would prefer to choose my own shop to do the ppi. Have they told you where they would take it? Perhaps you could do a little research on where they plan to have it done.

USP is about 35 miles or so from that dealer (they may not be willing to go that far though), I have heard nothing but good things about them. Perhaps someone else will chime in with a good shop in the area.

Good luck!! :)

Nice car. I like the wheels. Agree that they will be easy to sell if you replace them.

Even when I had my car PPI'ed by Brumos, I had to specify that it include a DME scan. It wasn't considered part of the normal PPI which surprised me. It didn't bear and additional charge but that's way more important to me than the fact that my rear wiper was missing the cap. Something to consider wherever you get it done. I agree though, that I'd prefer to pay for it myself and send it to my "own" shop.

Yes, I agree... dme scan should be on the ppi check list. You definitely need to ask what exactly the shop includes in their ppi. It varies quite a bit. Besides just looking at the car overall a good ppi will include diagnostic scan, checking the car underneath as well, driving car, making sure everything works properly from radio to power seat switches etc, etc, paint meter, list goes on. Also, If there are specific things you want them to look for you can tell them that as well.

You go girl!!!

https://rennlist.com/forums/vehicle-...condition.html

Winnar!1:thumbsup::rockon:

^ Holy crap! That's a unicorn if I ever saw one. An eleven on a 10 point scale. :jumper:

Sure is. That interior looks like it just came out of the upholstery shop.

It's too nice, I would be scared to roll it out of the garage!

Thanks for the advice guys. I think I'll try to buy it after a good ppi. I just contacted the dealer and they told me the ppi would be done at Stahl Motorsports. Danny at Stahl has a very good rep in the Porsche community so I'm not too worried about not getting a thorough ppi report.

Sorry for derailing the thread.

holy shi*!!!!! Wow

http://indianapolis.craigslist.org/cto/5431749811.html

2004 Cabriolet Guards Red over Black, Tiptronic, X50, 19k miles, sport seats w/color matched backs, EVOMS Stage 1 tune. Indianapolis. Gorgeous car (but aren't all Guards Red cars?). Condition described "As New". Asking $68,500.


https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...4bf3afa83e.jpg

That looks like strong money for a tippy cab

I think you are ready to flip yours and trying to bump up the market. More power to you!

Who, me?

Upon KC's prompting, here's one that I posted earlier today on the Craigslist, Ebay and Other Online Finds thread....


2001 TT 6 speed with 3584 miles on the clock!


http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Porsche-911-/...120&rmvSB=true


The jegermiester :P

^ I neglected to say it on the Craigslist thread, but "Nice find" Mr. jegermiester.

Many thanks kcattorney!!


Just doing my bit in trying to make someone as happy about owning a 996TT as I am with mine :P

Atabel
 

996tt have the mezger engine, a beautiful thing! FYI, radiator connections are a concern, google it.

My 996tt, X50, ceramic breaks, is the best thing I've ever driven. Previously couple of 914's, to start. Then 3 different 80's 911's. My 996tt even throwing down $$$$ for the radiator connections, best car I've ever driven

How much to fix radiator connections

Come on, Rick, it says right there: $$$$. ;)

YEAH BABY!!!

https://rennlist.com/forums/vehicle-marketplace-old/916410-2003-porsche-911-turbo-like-new-condition.html

F*** the haters

^ Well bought. Probably going straight to someones collection parked in-between their white 993tt and 997tt :) You'll be hard pressed to find another example in that color combo/condition....ever.

Nice 22k mile car priced very reasonably in Palm Desert:

http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/ctd/5463625515.html

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...c5578189c.jpeg


https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...8a1b5978a.jpeg

Looks like it's an X50 car, loaded with sport seats and aluma-look gauges, etc. Well priced @ $56,950.

This is my car, It was delivered this afternoon. it now has 4950 miles. My first 996, I can't believe I waited so long. I did not pay 70K either

Banjo - Congrats - beautiful car! It's worth posting an introductory thread.
And welcome!

Here's todays prestige find and what a beauty!!


2001 TT, black on black, MT with 3584 clicks on the speedo.


http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Porsche-911-/...E:B:SS:CA:1120


The Jegermiester :P

I stumbled on this one today...

'05 Turbo S Cabrio - Black/Black - Stick - $79,996

http://www.parkhaus1.com/detail-2005...-14420415.html

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...b20b66c7b0.jpg

That's actually very reasonably priced to boot. Impressive.

It's too bad the designers couldn't make the C-pillar on the hardtop for the cab a little thinner and the rear shark fin window a little bigger. The roofline is true to the coupe, but the C-pillar just makes it look a bit wonky. Nice car though.

Yeah, I agree. I guess if you've got the top open it's not a big deal... but if it was more like the coupe it would be excellent. They certainly got the c-pillar to shark fin window ratio exactly right with the coupe!! ;)

A heavily modded one:

http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/ctd/5471939013.html

^ I love it when an ad says "Metzger" engine. It shows that the seller is a true Porsche guy and really knows his stuff.

I'll bet anyone a beer that the seller also says "Porsh".

EDIT: Although I will say that's a very nice car for the right buyer. I think for the purist, it might induce convulsions.

Even worse, he might even say "porshah"

Since I know only the finest Porsche enthusiasts are viewing this thread, I would like to offer up my car for a "Prestige" evaluation. Can you give me a likely market value? Yes, it has 26K miles, which seems like a lot compared to the examples put forth before this. But I think it can make the outer edge of "Prestige" given the condition and equipment :)

^ Well, first off, nice car. Me, personally, I like cars with quality mods. What I found out when I first posted about my car is that some people, well, they don't so much. They really, really don't like mods. And I'm talking about just outright hostility. They hated the mods on my car so much, one of them waged a one-man campaign to get me banned.

The bad news is that those guys are the kind who are willing to pay (well, at least they say they are willing to pay) top dollar for cars. They want "unmolested" to the extreme. That's what the prestige thread is about - low-mileage, no stories, no excuses, unmodified cars that haven't even been driven past a track much less on one.

The good news is that you've got a fantastic car. While it might not fit the exact definition of a Prestige Thread car, that's not necessarily the end of the world. You should have plenty of guys interested in it.

Nice, just what I would buy if shopping now.
How much have you had it on the track?

Three Driver's Ed days.

It's a bit buried in there under ownership history.

Thanks for the feedback - and letting me hang around with the Haupte Porsche crowd. :)

Any thoughts on a likely selling price?

And are there more details that are needed in the for sale listing?

$49,950 ask, take the first $48,000 you get. This time of the year, you might get a little more, but that $50k barrier is a big one. So if you want to get it sold, then I would keep it below that. If you are in no hurry and are willing to wait for the right buyer, then maybe ask more. But, you will be competing with a lot of other silver cars. I like silver, but there are a bunch of them.

Here is another one ... KC, it's your favorite color also :)

04 Cabrio / Stick / 10k miles - Looks brand new. $71,996

http://www.parkhaus1.com/detail-2004...-13824831.html

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...48d51ee793.jpg

Gorgeous color combo on that one!

Private seller, I think in Dallas. 9,957 miles. Lapis blue over Savannah beige. 6 speed. Asking $66,750.

https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/d...7766/overview/

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...871e394a1e.jpg

Nice find. I really like the blue exterior. At 9,957 miles better limit those test drives to keep it under 10,000 for the next owner ;).

Gorgeous colors! Worth every penny surely.

Nice S, if you like cabs...
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsc...43k-miles.html

Wow, great car! It certainly deserves the prestige tag.

Totally prestigious car for crazy cheapo:

https://rennlist.com/forums/vehicle-marketplace-old/926780-2002-porsche-911-turbo-with-x50-package-and-factory-aerokit.html

That's a great deal - probably belongs in the Craigslist thread because of that (and the mileage)

2005 Turbo S cab with hardtop, 6 speed, triple black, 15k miles at Parkhaus in Miami. Buy It Now of $74,996.
http://www.parkhaus1.com/detail-2005...otoviewer=true

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...88364b0dd0.jpg


https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...ae2d837bc8.jpg

For $75k they could at least slap on a new shift knob


https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...520e3cbffa.jpg

Over priced for a tippu imo. Should be between. $33 and $35k.

No way! 50k miles X50/aerokit wouldn't be a 33k car if it had a CVT.

rmc1148's car up for sale in the Vehicle Marketplace:
https://rennlist.com/forums/vehicle-...13k-miles.html

2001, 6 speed, only 13k miles, asking $52,000. Looks like a winner to me. GLWS.


https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...d538d2b2b7.jpg


https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...acf48d8d9c.jpg

Pretty strong price here for a 30k mile tippy cab, but then this dealer usually prices his cars quite high

http://www.aicauto.com/content/inventory.asp?Image=622

http://inventory.mgmsl.com/web/used/...Ohio/29673811/

He really likes this car
The na 996's he has are also 35k

Marshall Goodman's asking prices are ridiculous.

But it looks to be a darn near perfect specimen.

Bump to the top..

Any new listings?

I have a few customers that are looking..

I have a biarritz white on natural brown 996TT that is near stock. I am kicking around converting to a RUF RTurbo but may pass along for the right price. PM me if interested.

Al

Nice looking TTS
 

Decent price, nice color, interior a bit rough for the mileage (actually very rough); but it is a manual shift. I've always liked Cobalt Blue.

https://www.carsforsale.com/vehicle/details/17527299

Beautiful, but those wheels need to go...

Love the exterior, had the same color on a 987S. But wow, the interior really has taken a beating on this. Seems to have every 996 wear item in terrible shape.

that's not cobalt....or somethings wrong with the camera

yeah looks more like Lapis Blue. Could be lighting I suppose. but definitely looks too dark to be Cobalt

I know nothing about this car except that the mileage as represented is extraordinary.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Porsche-911-...-/391449833580

Nice looking car. Not a fan of the wheels or aftermarket radio but the mileage and sport seats are nice.
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/scz/cto/5578591620.html

Hey Jeremy - So you don't like me wheels huh? No worries I have a set of Turbo Twist Hollow spokes that will come with the car :thumbsup:

See you at Canepa's on Saturday . :rockon:

I am a fan of the factory hollow twists. Look forward to seeing it in person this weekend!

Auction just started on an 18,000 mile 2001 996tt tiptronic on bringatrailer.com. Looks bone stock, very clean.
996 sales prices on that website have been very strong all spring. Let's see what this one brings. Even with a tiptronic, I'll guess $51,000

http://bringatrailer.com/listing/2001-porsche-turbo/


https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...ab100c1e38.jpg

^Nice car. I would buy this in a heartbeat for a DD, and be very happy with the tip given our miserable traffic.

Those floormats don't look original to me. Strange to have to replace them on such a low mile car. Stranger still not to replace them with factory mats.
Still, I'll guess the BAT crowd goes to $53k for this unique color, low-mile example of the 996 turbo that is gaining both in popularity and demand.

I would think the automatic would hold it back quite a bit but we will see. I see some automatic guys in the comments.

Sorry to jump models, but I did not find a reference to this elsewhere in the forum. A 2007 Turbo on BAT (25K miles, Tip) just went for $57K. I was quite surprised! http://bringatrailer.com/listing/200...che-911-turbo/

Wow, that is a steal for a 997tt, probably due to it being a tip. Nonetheless someone got a good buy.

IMO they should've given that car away for free or burned it with fire. Who the heck wants a auto 911 turbo. :)

It is already for sale again...

" Looks like a flipper got it. Already on Craigslist for $75k https://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/cto/5715947106.html "

I missed out on this beauty on Bring a Trailer.
14k mile tt such a deal!

http://bringatrailer.com/listing/200...911-gt2-turbo/

^ Accident and non stock body otherwise very nice= reason for low price.

And what do you think it would have been without those issues in your opinion?

$60k easily.

Just sold my 2001 with 13,350 miles same color and in better condition ( going by photos) for 52k so I would say realistically 52-55 but hopefully more.

Here's a nice Guards Red 2002 996tt with 12,844 miles in Atlanta area found by spooltime and posted in the Craigslist thread. Cross posting here. Asking $60,000. Not sure what's going on with the steering wheel and I hope that's a seat cover on the driver's seat. But, the ad says its all stock.

http://atlanta.craigslist.org/atl/cto/5705549636.html

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...392cdc8a8d.jpg

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...52301ff633.jpg

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...6f548671a2.jpg

I have seen that one for sale since January. Ebay, craigslist, etc. It keeps popping up.

"a two-tone red and black steering wheel looks gorgeous", said noone ever. Also what's up with the steering turned upside down. Get the wheels straight before you take the picture!

^ Maybe he just mounted it upside down after putting that gorgeous steering wheel cover on it.

Just saw this at RAC Performance in TX
 

No affiliation or interest. Looks like a nice x50 with mods. 50k miles though

http://www.racperformance.com/2003-Porsche-911-Turbo-Carrollton,%20TX%2075006/5949307

I saw that the other day. Looks nice. Only think I noticed was the exhaust seems to be off a bit. Maybe something simple idk

Probably engine mount

What do you think of these two?

http://www.privatecollectionmotors.c...rnia/30692371/

http://www.privatecollectionmotors.com/web/used/Porsche-911-Turbo-$143,825-MSRP-2004-Costa-Mesa-California/31416328/

Which one is the best value?

Both are over priced with those miles.

I've tried to buy two cars there but found them to be about 10% high across the board and not willing to deal... at all. The people working there are really great though. The good news is that I kept shopping and found my car; better condition, 1/3 the miles, and of course, less expensive.

Nice 03 X50 Coupe up on PCA

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That looks an awful lot like the car tdrimer just bought. Unless he is selling it, I would be very skeptical. Hmmmm I guess I would be skeptical too if he is selling it since he would have owned it so short :D

it is mine and zero reason to be skeptical.

You are selling it?

yes. I am sick to my stomach about it. I am doing everything i can not to. As an fyi it Needs ps reservoir and clutch slave cylinder. Very little by way of documentation with the car. I have only put 600 or so miles on it. It really is about as perfect as they come. Again. Sick about it. Hoping situation changes and i can pull it down off the sites for sale.

How about this 14k Mike 2004 Cab 6 speed for $50k https://rennlist.com/forums/vehicle-...-for-sale.html

Just ran across this on Omaha Craigslist. 2005 996TTS, 43k miles, asking $55k. Private seller.

http://omaha.craigslist.org/cto/5868654193.html


https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...0e63cf801b.jpg

still producing 996 tt in 2005?

yes and that one is sold...tried to jump on it but sold to a dealer quickly

Interesting, I wonder what the new price will be???

70-80k

It seems crazy, but you are probably right! :to_order:

I was trying to get up to Nebraska a few weeks ago to take a look see. The owner dropped the price from $60K to $55K.

NorCal 31K Mile X50 Aero car, asking $58.5K Its now on ebay as well.

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/pen/ctd/5866027957.html


https://images.craigslist.org/00F0F_...D_1200x900.jpg

I inquired about that one also but decided against it bc it was literally across the country, didn't want aero kit and seller was very firm on price. Apparently a deal fell through on it a week or two back as the seller contacted me to see if I was still interested now that the car was available again but I'm not sure why it didn't sell. Here's the DME, build sheet and recent service report the seller sent me. Looks like a nice car except for the recent over revs. Maybe someone was having fun before they sold it? https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...6aa9767994.jpg
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...2f900f2f5f.jpg
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...a3f9d58f82.png

If everything checks out that seems like a great car. Nice build sheet!

18 type 2's is really low. I'm guessing someone took it for a test drive and bumped the limiter once. Assuming that they didn't go too much over 7251 rpm, 18 type 2's would literally be like .04 seconds (40 milliseconds!) worth of time (if my math is right) and since it happened such a short time ago that was probably the ONLY time it hit a type 2 in it's life!! Like you said, only issue is how recent it was but many of these cars hit type 2's daily without problems so it's hard to really say. But, really nice car either way.

I wouldn't be scared to buy with those ignition 1 and 2 stats.

Low mileage. Price up there. Love the stitching. If I had the garage space and the money.....

http://www.dupontregistry.com/autos/...rbo--s/1555046

Considering it's Marshall Goldman, I'm surprised it's that cheap, for an almost zero miles car. Normally MG are at least 30% higher than what logic dictates.

I agree. I'm surprised it's not higher with MG.

36 grand with 6 days to go. I like that.

http://bringatrailer.com/listing/2003-porsche-911/

another one. Lots of misstatements in the ad. "only one for sale in the US"; $12k below average.

https://www.carsforsale.com/vehicle/details/25496774

If I tood you they took out the roll cage and cleaned it up a LOT would that help. Let's just say IMO it doesn't belong in this thread. Run hard and put away wet...

They also jacked the price. It was 70 back in April when they received it.
I offered 40 and thought I was being fair. And yes I do know what a TTS is worth.

Same car. $60k and reserve not met.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/182382256564

yeah, and at that price, it'll sit on their lot for another year.

when they list it for 50 and it sells.

Aww, come on. The sweet crests on the wheels make it a $60k car easy - proves the attention to maintenance details that's been lavished upon it. :D

Wishing price!

This one is a good color combo, X50 and aero kit with only 12k miles for only $75,000.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/322361054578?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...966ac61e0f.jpg

Seems a great car...

http://bringatrailer.com/listing/2003-porsche-911/

2005 TTS, 6 speed, coupe, low miles. No reserve and less than hour left. Will be interesting to see what it goes for, low $70's?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2005-Porsche...m=122268787804

$65,100

I had not seen an embossed center storage compartment lid like that before...

Seems like a pretty decent buy given the rarity and the apparent condition. Makes a lot of the X50 asking prices look ambitious.

Yeah, that's a nice one.

I'm not familiar with the Ebay process, when someone buys a car through Ebay, is any inspection or PPI allowed as a condition for final sale, or is it a matter of having to bid and hope there's nothing major?

I have seen this seen dealt with various ways.

I think the general consensus is that you do one before the auction ends.

However, I have seen people that stand behind their car, and state that you can do a PPI after the auction closes.

Something is up with this car, or perhaps the seller. That was its second time listed on eBay, first time the hammer fell at $64,400. And he's also running an ad on CL asking $98,900.

https://newyork.craigslist.org/stn/ctd/5923069661.html

That is interesting. It shows to still be for sale at $98k even on their carsfromusa website but sold with no reserve on ebay for much less.

I was just at Auto Assets in Ohio today getting service done, and they have a yellow 2001 turbo with only 13 k miles on it- it looked new. Ask is 55 k. A lovely car.

This car has been for sale on and off for several months. It is located in NYC and the seller is a small dealer/flipper. I spoke to the seller about it back in September when looking at the the silver 2003 x50 996tt with super low miles (4,xxx mi) he had for sale at the time that was posted in this thread. He had just acquired the car and wanted 80k+ for it back then. He had no service records for the car. Seems to have fallen a bit short on the price of the last ebay sale and had several sales that failed to close for some reason or another.

I would speculate the winning bids on the eBay listings were ghost bids. Obviously mid-$60s is a long way off from $98k, or even $80k. My guess is the car is still available.

What service records would you expect on a 4k mile car?

Fraudulent Bidding on eBay?!! I'm shocked! ;)

Bidder Information
Bidder: p***w ( 557Feedback score is 500 to 999)
Feedback: 100% Positive
Item description: 2005 Porsche 911 Turbo S
Bids on this item: 4

30-Day Summary
Total bids: 10
Items bid on: 5
Bid activity (%) with this seller: 40%
Bid retractions: 0
Bid retractions (6 months): 0

12k

10 - 12 Oil changes / 2 - 4 Brake Fluids minimally.

:eek: Ok, you're right, that definitely looks shady. So do people just have a friend put in a bid for the minimum they'd take for the car? Gives the appearance of a no reserve auction when it isn't really. Seems like EBay would have a way to figure that s@@t out, but they probably don't care.

The Brig993 was talking about was apparently a 4k mile car.

And if they are not present, definitely run, bc its going to explode. :D

I just bought one off Ebay and I just asked the seller prior to sale that if I won, would he be open to me having a PPI done prior to paying and he said yes. Just treat them as any other seller and it's nothing exotic other than the time limit and you'll be fine.

Not even due for it's first oil change for another 1k miles right? :rolleyes:

Thanks for info.

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Oil change at least once a year, driven or not.

(I think he was being factious...)

Couple nice ones...

Really like the white...

https://www.mecum.com/lots/FL0117-27...che-911-turbo/

https://www.mecum.com/lots/FL0117-27...1-turbo-coupe/

least offensive gemballa stuff ever. the white is a beaut, for sure. probably sells for 60.

as for the black one with an estimate of up to 80k!? they've been in the FLA sun too long lol

still, a great looking low miles car. though i think i spy a bmc filter in there(?) wonder what all else if anything they've done to a 6500 mile car?

Did i say that?:nono::nono:

,

They make a big deal about the black car having the factory aerokit and it is missing the aerokit rear spoiler, makes perfect sense.

You insinuated that evidence of regular oil changes are not important. Most here would disagree. If I didn't see proof of annual or very close to annual maintenance I would walk from that car.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2002-Porsche...3D302170470262

Please share your professional opinions on this one.

I wouldn't give that seller the time of day if only because of that piece of **** ad he wrote. Doesn't even mention a single maintenance item.

That fool managed to mistype the mileage for that car on his own website, he entered it with one extra zero so one million miles.

WOW. 2002 6spd with 107k miles for $32k. That's actually pretty cheap. Looks decent shape too.

Seller looks to be ok with solid feedback, other similar class cars, and appears to have carved out a niche selling the lower 'grade' exotics which is fine. It's a terrible ad but that doesn't mean it's a bad car and since he wasn't the previous owner shouldn't have much bearing on car condition. Check it out carefully and have it inspected at a good independent prior to sending payment and you might be able to land a good deal by going the extra mile to do the research yourself instead of counting on the seller to provide it. You should do those things anyhow so it's not like it's much more effort and trust only what you know as fact.

edit; only concern is the black wheel which either means they upgraded the wheel to that silver two-tone and could only find it in black or it's possible they blew the airbag and that was the easiest one to find. I'd bet on the former because that's a terribly lazy way to try to hide an accident so it's likely just questionable taste.

On what basis does it look cheap? For all we know it might have thousands in deferred maint. The seller doesn't know or doesn't give a **** apparently, not sure which is worst.

Yup, it might and it might not have thousands in deferred maintenance.

I'm not in the market for another 996tt so I'm not willing to invest any more time into seeing if this car is a good buy or not. I'm not implying someone should hit the "buy it now" button without doing their homework.

Just an FYI on this car, I actually ended up the high bidder and when I called to make arrangements for the payment, the Seller refused to sell the car for the final price. He said his secretary had made a mistake in not listing it with a reserve price. When I spoke with him a couple of days earlier he of course never mentioned this situation. That possibility aside, he was very sarcastic and unpleasant on the phone and should the opportunity arise, you should be very careful in dealing with him. On to finding another 2005 TTS coupe!

Thank you!

Have you tried filing something through ebay? In principle auctions should be honored.

Wow! That's unreal. I would be HOT!! Sorry to hear that. Definitely try to report him to eBay.

**Edit** Were you the high bidder the first time around, or this most recent listing?

Out of principle, I did report him to Ebay. That said, I think "karma" takes care of these things in the end.


I didn't see his earlier auction and only bid on the most recent one.

Just fyi, bids on real estate and vehicles on ebay are "non-binding" and do not create a contract:

http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/...nding-bid.html

I couldn't care less. There's a thing called professional business etiquette. If you don't intend on selling a vehicle for a certain price and honoring your deal, then don't offer it at no reserve.

If I am the high bidder on a car (I have been twice on eBay, fortunately both sellers were honest people and the transactions went off without a hitch) and you decide you're not going to sell that car to me, prepare yourself for a very unpleasant situation.

That's complete and utter BS.

**Edit**
Read the fourth bullet:

Still non-binding.
And not my rules. :D

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...53d4df6355.gif

Says the attorney.... Might I suggest telling the seller(s) to learn the rules? Reserve auctions are in place for a reason, use it.

Corso - Just giving you a hard time. That gif cracks me up whenever I see it! I agree with you that it is pretty crappy to back out of a deal, whether ebay treats is as a binding offer or not.

Found this one owner Canadian gem listed under 911T (vice 911) on autoTRADER:
http://m.autotrader.ca/a/19_9918503?...srt=3&showVs=1

approx 59k USD

amazing car!!

Maybe I missed sonething but I think it's a just a "nice" car. What makes it amazing other than its price which seems $10K too high?

One owner, x50, less than 22000 miles. Looks pristine to me. I doubt you could find something equivalent for 49k

Yeah no way you can find low miles all stock x50 for less than $49k.

Plus you can sell those tacky HREs for good money.

It's $59K US, not $49K. Not a great deal IMO.

Different strokes I guess. I like those wheels. I got my pristene 25K mile car (drove it the next day to a a Porsche Concours without doing a thing and won my class) for way less than that. No, it's not a X50-equipped but I just don't feel that X50 justifies a 50% surcharge. It's also silver/black which I feel is very plain -others find it "classic". ...Back to the different strokes thing.

To be clear, I'm not knocking the car, but if I were in the market I wouldn't consider it unless it were at least $10K cheaper. At $59K I'd be looking at 997TTs.

Yeah? Good for you. And happy new year! Like everyone else on this forum can tell you, 2xk mile unmolested X50s are deep in the $50s, that's the market. The guy who sold you your car had no idea what he was selling clearly or he needed the money desperately.

And at $59k good luck finding a manual 997tt in a comparable condition to a 20k mile 996tt lol.

We saw this one online and were curious about it. If you are close by, any chance you would mind looking at the front bumper? In the pictures it looks scratched. Not going to spend that kind of money if there are issues.

I should add it's about a 3-1/2 hour drive for us and we don't want to drive all the way down there for nothing.

02 X50 with a nice build sheet: https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/invent...ting=160667473

AWD, will try to get a closer look soon and let you know.

If this is the scratch you are referring to:

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...abd5da6e8.jpeg

it is curious why the dealer would not have it touched up.

That being said, I don't think I'd let a small license plate scratch on the front bumper keep me from buying this car. I'd be more concerned about the front bumperettes - not sure what Porsche was thinking with them and am very glad they changed the bumper design even before the end of the 2001 model year.

But, at $56k asking, that car is very reasonably priced given the low mileage and otherwise apparently like-new condition otherwise. I doubt it lasts very long on the market.

This^^a 997tt at 59k is rode hard and put up wet.
X50 cars are shooting up in price, couple of years ago you could get a tts for 50k and an x50 for 40k, not anymore.

I actually think the dealer did touch that up because I took a couple pictures of the car and the spots are not there, and he did mention something about touching up some small spots on the front. I have a photo of the front of the car and would be happy to send it to you, AWD.

Here's one that just popped up: Speed Yellow Cab @ $62.5K

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsc...-9k-miles.html

2 owners in 12 years and less than 10k miles. Hope the next owner actually drives the car.

Not directed at you Yinzer, but I see these type comments on every forum on Rennlist and have never understood why anyone cares one iota what others do with their cars when they buy them. If they want to park it in their living room and use it as a TV stand, it's their money.

On the other hand, I see those same individuals, when looking for a car, want a low mileage, pristine example. If there were not individuals that didn't drive their cars much, there would not be low mileage examples out there in the first place. IMO.

Amen.

If the PO underuses the car, that's a good thing. As long as he doesn't also unserservice it.

The PO may have had 14 cars and apportioned his driving between them. Not to mention convertibles have seasons, so I could rationalize a seasonally-used convertible...

Having said that, I don't understand the disproportionate value given to low mileage Porsches, as they generally have a couple hundred thousand miles of service life.

This 20K mile blue X50 beauty definitely looks like it qualifies for this thread...

http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-s...MEDFBDPANFDESK

Sure, I'd prefer a black interior, but the midnight blue exterior is just brilliant.

that is a cut above, but geez i'm not a fan of the graphite grey cabins. had that in my 964. got rid of it.

but the blue X the silver gt3 wheels is quite the look.

Agreed, light gray interior and tan interior are deal breakers and should be much less $$$

To each their own... I purposefully looked for a 996tt with a light gray interior. IMHO light gray interior along with carbon fiber makes for a nice looking inside. I see gray and black interiors as non offensive colors.

Red, on the other hand....

Yes, I shouldn't say they "should" be much less, but it's known that light gray is less desirable than black. Tan some people like. The red some love but I don't see it adding value at all.

at least we all agree that blue is spectacular!

:thumbsup:

well priced for sure. Needs to be dropped about an inch though.

Apologies moderators if this post is misplaced....

but do any of you experts know of someone that can act as a BROKER for finding these "prestige" market cars for me?

I'm in the market for a 996tt/997.1tt but I'm realizing after all the research I've done I still have no idea of what's a TRULY "good/bad" deal. I need someone who knows a lot more than I do to do the work for me.

I have a guy that does something similar for me for my other cars. He'll scour the auction market for a particular late model car, handle the inspection and delivery to me... no problems. I'll save ~ 15% + his cut ($1k-2.5k)

This works because the market for any non-exotic brand, less than 4 years old is very efficient. Conversely, I feel the used 10+ year-old 911 Turbo market is inefficient/idiosyncratic.

I don't have the time/capacity/expertise to do things like compression testing, intermix checks, bore scoring analysis, checking welds of the coolant lines, etc etc etc... and I wouldn't know how to discount for those things, if it were an issue.

So in other words... who can I hire and pay about $1-2k to do this for me?

you'll get a lot of hands going up I'm sure, self-included. I know the 996tt market well, having just spent a long time finding myself a nice x50. And I just sourced 2 other cars for people (non-Porsche). so if you're serious, I'd be more than happy to help. PM if you like.

I would be happy to help you. I have purchased 35+ cars and have been working on cars for 20 years. I am a licensed auto appraiser and do high end vehicle valuations. I know the market very, very well and I work on a 996 turbo so I am very familiar with it's mechanics and intricacies. I would be happy to assist you in any way I can. I also emailed you as well. Feel free to call me at the number I sent to you via email if you'd like to discuss what I can offer to you.

Thanks in advance,

Joseph

Thank you, Rick!

Did techweenie assist you in buying your Targa?

Thanks everyone for the feedback. I will be replying soon to those that reached out to me.

I wish he did. He hadn't come out as a broker/consultant for hire yet, not officially at least. I'm happy with the car but I paid top retail dollars to a dealer.

Man, that's a nice one!
Need to straighten out those exhaust tips.

Yeah...both tips look offset in kinda a weird way. Aftermarket exhaust perhaps or just goofiness and lack of attention to detail.

Maybe if it had regular leather vs. supple I could get into the light gray, but I'm still picturing this car with an all black gut. That would be special!

I absolutely love that one! https://www.excellence-mag.com/class...7#.WKVOyxDBShQ

Does it qualify for that thread or what?

Oh, yeah. Nice one, Aero Kit, X50, factory carbon that looks to be in nice shape, sport seats with factory paint to match..sharp looking car for sure.

What Spoiler is that?

*Sorry Newbie question.*

Factory Aerokit wing.

THANKS!

The one I'm looking at has this spoiler...so I had to ask

IMO it's a nice feature. I really like mine for the look, the added downforce, and that it's stationary so you don't have to deal with the hydraulics failing.

YES! I think not having to deal wit the Hydraulics is a huge plus.

I wasn't sure how I like how it looked before... but it's growing on me.

I see it has Coco mats, I just put a set in my TT. The retro look is a nice temporary change up IMO.

It definitely has some nice touches. I like the belts and the pedal set,

Gerald- You are about to convince me to get a set of coco mats for my car. Won't make it a Prestige Thread car, but maybe add a little shred of class to it.

It's a decent change to the look. I'll drive the TT Saturday with them in it.

Found this on cargurus's.. to good to be true??
https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/invent...004_isFeatured

It sounds like it. You can have the 996 turbo. Ill take the GT3RS for 55k.

http://www.centralautodms.com/2007_P...IA_8373199.veh

Didn't last too long! No longer available.

Yeah, that was pretty darn quick!

Sweet deal by the looks of it. Seller left a little money on table IMO.

https://rennlist.com/forums/vehicle-...he-911-tt.html

This.

A 2004 black on black 6 speed, sport seats non X50 car with clean history and 14k miles for 50k is a good price?
Im just starting to look for one so Im not very current on the market

if the car is clean and well maintained, yes, I believe $50K is a good price.

Helluva lot of car for $50K.

Absolutely!

That is a great price. IMO. I would expect that to be worth close to 60 if it's really nice.

uhhhh, that's a terrible price...please tell me exactly where it is and how to contact the owner so I can tell him directly

Lol

This one definitely fits the bill, absolutely stunning! 18k, Turbo S Cab, 6MT. Should bring very strong money next weekend

http://rmsothebys.com/am17/amelia-is...riolet/1701948

I will add this one to the auction thread. Thanks.

'05 TTS coupe with 193 original miles, what a waste!

http://inventory.mgmsl.com/web/used/...Ohio/36110315/

Might not be a waste for the next owner. ;)

Depends on the asking price! ;)

First 6-figure TTS? Should be interesting to see how long it lasts..

I'm sure that'll be far north of 100k, I wouldn't be surprised about a 2 at the beginning - this is basically a new car (yes, I know that time takes its toll as well)!

For a collector that w/should basically be the holy grail of all TTSs.

Definitely one for a collector. Can you confirm that the 996 TTS was the last manual shift S model turbo made (so far). I know they made manual shift TT cars in the 997 but I have not seen any manual S versions in the 997 or 991. Curious, as I currently have an S.

Just bought a 04 X50 with 60k miles for 45k. Needs a clutch though.

Black on Black with Aero Package

Here's an 03 with 14k miles for $69,500 on ebay. http://www.ebay.com/itm/2003-Porsche...xYwxYV&vxp=mtr

This car almost makes the red 03 X50 aero car for $75k seem like a reasonable deal.

I'm seeing quite a few more cars in the $60k+ range this spring than there were last year. Right now there are 14 on Autotrader at $59.9k+.

Maybe the most expansive X50 yet? $98,500

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2003-Porsche...9YyaIp&vxp=mtr

The 996TTs were very undervalued for a very long time but this recent climb upward is starting to look a bit bubblish.

I think the new types of buyers are looking for "drivable classics." Meaning cars that are gaining in value because of their age/collectibility, and are also comfortable to drive.

I am around air-cools every day, and some of them I would hate to drive for more than 50 miles at a time.. Whereas the 996TTs are the exact opposite! They are comfortable enough, not too computerized, super fast, and you can feel the power and the car working the road. In other words, they are becoming the perfect "in-between" the old air-cool era and the new water-cool era.

The 993TTs are the only rivals in thrill and comfort to the 996TTs, and it's starting to make sense for the new type of buyer to pay $50k instead of $130k to achieve the similar effect.

This new spike in price dos not surprise me a bit.. Supply and demand. Simple as that. Eventually the price will climb high enough where it will no longer make sense.. And it will go back down. Just like it did with the air-cools.

The question is.. Where will it top off? Some of the 2005 996TT S models are close to 6 figures.. Will that be the norm for the rest of the X50s in few years.. I hope so. Because that means the economy is kicking ass! And I am all for that.

I have been shopping the 996 for the past few months in the Chicago area every time I would call about one I would get "we just sold it yesterday." This got a bit frustrating after a while.

I closed the deal on one 2 weeks ago. 04 TT Tip Hardtop Cab with 24K on it. Brand new tires, just serviced, H&R springs and few few other extras. It had been meticulously maintained by the PO and had all the service records.

Apparently they had 2 other people waiting for me to drop out of the deal.

What an amazing car. Loving it.

Would you mind revealing approximately what you paid?

As it was a tip, it should've been a bit south of all the top numbers here...

Sorry Carlo I meant to post that. $51K

I missed one with similar specs and miles for $47K

No need to apologize. Thanks for the pricing info.

I agree! 996tt technically is the "in-between" the air-cool and water-cool era with an additional bonus of having the Mezger engine which itself is a direct link to the older style engines (complete with 964# on the engine tag). It's pretty awesome when you think about it...seriously :rockon:

I've been watching the market for about 5 years now and while it is interesting to see this play out and I'm really happy our old girl is finally getting the respect she deserves...I have Zero plans of ever selling her so it's all just fun for me!

I don't necessarily disagree, but you'd still be hard pressed to find a comparable performance machine in the ~$50k range.

$50k is fine. It is the $90k+ range that things are getting a little over heated.

Agreed. :cheers:

2003 tt X50 8711 mi. asking $98,500

http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-s...modelCode1=911

It's only got one key. No way would I pay more than $90K for that one:thumbsup:

They're smoking some good stuff over there! Hahah That's GT2 money on the low end of the GT2 market.

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...2cdaa86933.jpg

It's funny how it works. Instead of appreciating that our cars go up in value and be happy if they sell at whatever price in the upper range, people start to make fun of them.

I hope they get 90k> for that gem of a Turbo. That's a fairly normal price for these cars in Europe right now.

I will probably never sell mine, but this is fun to watch and I'm happy that our "ugly duckling" is starting to get the attention it deserves.

I do not think you can get a 996 GT2 for under $100k these days.

No, you can't. Unless it's a higher mileage one with some kind of history.

2005 996 TTS 193 mi.!

http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-s...modelCode1=911

does this now put the cost to entry delta for a 996 turbo btw 25K and 100k? that's a helluva spread.

That's sad...how in hell can someone buy a car and just let it sit? 193 miles...

Yeah 100K is definitely on the low end, but there's a few out there for sure.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2003-Porsche...hY1ad-&vxp=mtr
You're right, that seems to be the case with many of the lower priced ones. But "high mileage" on those seem to be near 50,000 miles. Which is still really low for cars of that age and such a stout engine! Plus, it means they were actually driven and enjoyed which isn't such a bad thing.
No kidding! That is a hell of a spread there! Sounds like the Cable company. We'll be out there sometime between 8am and next February!
I really don't understand it either! Even if you've got a great car collection and little time to drive them, I still wouldn't be able to put that few of miles on any car I own. I mean, that's not even a tank of gas!

Some people like cars as sculpture.

And in slate grey, even, which a great classic color. Wonderful car.

ha! agree. i can envision a thousand years hence, when that 193 mile specimen is unearthed, and the carchaeologist's gather *round* it and marvel at the forward thinking design of *our* headlamps.

pass the bong. on second thought. nah. i probably don't need it. lol.

Probably bought it as an investment. $140k+ purchase price. 12 years and 193 miles later, it's worth probably $70k ish.

On the other hand, $150k spent on an '05 Ford GT would've been a helluva investment.

It's probably worth (well) north of 100k but even if it's 150k (which I wouldn't think unrealistic) it wouldn't have been that much of an investment...

Here's a low mileage example for sale on the PCA classifieds with only 7,900 miles with an asking price of $66,500. https://www.pca.org/classified-ad/320346

Interesting color. Still hasn't met reserve.

http://m.ebay.com/itm/2005-Porsche-9...%257Ciid%253A9

It seems that car is going through the flip cycle. Great color.

http://www.6speedonline.com/forums/a...nal-green.html

I'm coming into this thread as a seller of car that probably qualifies and need some pricing opinions. 2003 Guards Red over Natural Brown 6-speed coupe. X50 but no Aero kit and no ceramic brakes. Current mileage is just under 9K. I bought it two years ago with ~5K miles. Other than a great trip to Rennsport Reunion V I haven't driven it much. Not a practical car for where I live so it needs to go where it will be driven more. I paid a premium for it when I bought it. Most likely going to a family member and I want to be fair to them. Thoughts?

I would expect to see a car like that for sale for high 60s or into the 70s if it is a 6spd. Maybe more. Sounds like a nice car and a good color combo!

Nice car. I don't get when people say it's not practical as the car was originally marketed as not a sports car, but more of a GT car. It's a great car for every day use.

GLWS>

Thanks to Steven954 for finding this 10k mile 2001 6 speed coupe. Dealership asking $67k.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2001-Porsche...53.m1438.l2649


https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...572dcb94f8.jpg

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...84cc50bf4f.jpg

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...312d10c0ef.jpg

When this car gets listed for sale (which I'm guessing will be within the next couple of days) I think we will be able to close this thread LOL, J/K :to_order::to_order: Seriously though...

194 miles 2005 Turbo S - 6 MT ... Holy Sh*T :bowdown:
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...6f0a829287.jpg

It's been on eBay twice... http://www.ebay.com/itm/2005-Porsche...xY~lNk&vxp=mtr

Didn't even realize it was the Marshall Goldman car...oh well, that new dealer is about 10 minutes from my house if anyone needs a rennfax!!! Just a guess but I'm sure there will be no test drives. :jumper: :thumbup:

Not that we'll ever find out, but what's your over/under for the $ the dealer has in the car? I say $80k.

I must have gotten pretty lucky....when my fiance and I were searching for her first Porsche, we stumbled upon an '03 996TT with 13k miles. Seal gray over black with carbon interior package. Car had Champion wheels, K24 turbos, intake/exhaust, and clutch all done. We took it home for $55k.

How long ago was it? Regardless, yes, you did well with your purchase. The 996TT market has really changed in the past year.

It sure has! We picked it up exactly 1 year ago. Last May. 10 hour drive down to Alabama from Chicago and drove it back!

Carlo Carrera. Question for you as I have been off the site for over a year and haven't kept up with the market. In January 2016 I passed on a super clean 2005 996TT S Cabriolet (6MT, PCCB) with 16K miles at $60K. At the time the 996TT market was pretty soft and I thought it might firm up in the future. I was thinking that a low miles, highly optioned Turbo S made in the last year of production might do well over time. I ended up going with a really nice 2010 997.2TT CPO (PDK, PCCB, heavy options) with 37K miles. I don't regret my choice, as I'm loving the 997.2TT, just curious about how well that 996TT has done in the past year. Jeff

Hagerty is showing a $10k increase in the price for a concourse condition car and I would say that is accurate. Prefect, low milage 996TTs are getting rarer every day and the value of convertibles in particular appear to be rising quickly.

I also think the deal you made on your 997TT was pretty good too.

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...fff65fe3d7.png

My brother will likely be offering his 2005 Midnight Blue Metallic TTS 6-speed coupe shortly. 39K miles, $155K MSRP, and Aerokit. Easily the best optioned 996 I've ever come across.


2005 Porsche 911 Turbo S Coupe
Division: PCNA

Prod Month: 09/2004
Price: $155,170.00
Exterior: Midnight Blue Metallic
Interior: Natural Leather Grey
Warranty Start: June 04, 2005

Heated Front Seats
Thicker Steering Wheel
Electric Sport Seat Left Side
Electric Sport Seat Right Side
Carbon Interior Package
Midnight Blue Metallic
Sport Seats w/Full Leather Int
Natural Leather Grey
Stainless Steel Exhaust Pipes
Natural Leather
Turbo Aerokit
Sport Shifter
Rims and Caps - Exterior Color
Porsche Crest in Headrest
Front Floor Mats w/"Porsche"
Custom Tailoring

Thank god it's not green. I'd have had to trade up for the grey interior.
Bet it's a pretty car.

Sounds like a nice car and I want the aero package, if interior was black I would be interested. Curious of price?

The Natural Grey Leather does look black to my eyes. It's definitely not the light grey I've seen in other P cars, and the interior is phenomenal with the premium leather and carbon combination. Not sure on price yet, and my brother doesn't seem super committed to selling it. It's an exceptionally rare TTS due to the Aerokit, and I've been told there were under 10 imported to the US, though I have no documentation to back that claim up.

Yes natural Grey is a great interior, it's more like a non shining black. I have full natural grey interior and it has held up very well, still looks great after 150k.

Great description, exactly.

Would love to see some pics of what sounds to be a really nice Turbo S

I thought that was the case with interior color, realized it later. Would like to know more if he decides to sell. Thanks.

My brother has been way busy with work, but I'll try to get some pics up this weekend. I'm also trying to justify buying it myself. I've regretted selling my unicorn 997TT since I sold it, and this car could fill the void.

What do you guys think this 03 x50 tip with this option list and 23k miles would bring? Car is tip and msrp is canadianhttps://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...3ef78f3f59.jpg

Depending on condition $55-65k US dollars.

^^^ Spot on.

Wow, an X50 tip? Probably not a lot of those made, especially in a coupe.

Here's a one owner 2004 911 Turbo Cab with 15k miles and paint to sample, X50, PCCB, and 6 speed for $65,996.

http://www.shortlineonline.com/exoti...cca6290fbc.htm

Anyone know what the color is? The ad says Cobalt blue but that's not right. There is a picture in the ad with the paint color options but I can't make out the color name from the small photo.

I almost looks like Polar Silver but just more blue. I would be interested in that car if it had sport seats and wasn't at a dealer.

Pretty car though. Al

I agree, a very unique car. I'm looking for an 80s G50 carrera otherwise I'd be tempted to make an offer on it.

It just says metallic paint to sample.

Yeah, window sticker says metallic paint to sample. In the same pic with the window sticker there is a sheet with what appears to be the 2004 paint to sample options. The color looks like it is the second to the top left. I just can't make out the color name from the photo.

Ice blue metallic?

https://rennlist.com/forums/991/7085...nd-you-55.html

You know what, you're probably right.

Ice blue was my guess too.

Great color and at that price the car is a good deal.

I think I figured it out. The pics in the Autotrader ad can be enlarged and the name of the color is "Zircon."

Would this 996tt belong in this thread? Are these SY 996tt's fetching this much?

http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-s...modelCode1=911

Fairly light on options, but with aero and sport seats, I bet they get the money. Looks like a very clean car from my quick glance.

Sweet build, sunroof delete and x50 and it would be perfect

2005 TTS Cabrio with 3,128 km's
 

Here's another find for the Prestige thread....offered at $135k CDN !

http://www.kijiji.ca/v-cars-trucks/c...ationFlag=true

this car was purchased last month for $52 from a private individual. The dealer disguised himself as a private buyer, however he is a dealer and now has it listed as per your link. The seller was pissed to say the least...

Lame.

I do not understand why the seller would be pissed. Did the disguised dealer force the seller to sell at that price?

The seller said yes. Once he found out it was a dealer he immdiatly called his attorney. His attorney advised it it could get costly and ugly and not in his favor. I don't know all the details, it just wasn't good. I missed the car by 2 hours myself and kept in constant contact in case the buyer did not pay up. Of course the buyer wired the money the next day as he knew he was getting a smoking deal and he was going to flip it.

Please note the dealer that is selling the car now is not the same dealer that bought it from the owner.

I still not understand why the seller is pissed. Dealer or not he didn't have to sell the car for $52k if he didn't want to. What was there to stop a private buyer from turning around a reselling the car? If the seller got the price he wanted why care?

I get the concept of being pissed at being lied to, but not to the extent of suing someone. The PO of my car had the chance to back out on our deal to sell at a higher price, but he was a man of his word and honored our deal. He said that he googled me and saw that I was a big enthusiast (founded a nonprofit auto museum), so he knew I would appreciate the car. If I had lied and turned around and flipped it, then I would expect him to be pissed.

I loathe and despise flippers as much as the next guy, but in this case, if the seller didn't know he was leaving $10k+ on the table, shame on him for not spending 1hr researching the market.

Fair enough.

Honestly I feel bad for you on missing out on what looks like a great car.

I am not sure we know the seller was lied to.

As the PO of your car did all this fellow had to do was search Google for some background on this buyer/dealer.

Good point, Carlo.

Wow. All this butthurt is a total mystery to me.

When I'm selling a car, I prefer dealers/flippers because they don't have to 'arrange the financing,' 'sell the BMW first,' 'get the wife's approval,' etc., etc.

Yeah, well, many other people prefer to get their full money's worth when they sell, and not have to pay for the college tuition of the children of some random scalper when they buy...

So the random scalper pays the ask - or something that the seller can live with - and they are still all bent out of shape. That makes no sense at all.

If they wanted more $ they should have asked for more $.

That's like being upset that your surgeon knows more than you about joints so he gets paid better to fix them.