Craigslist, EBay and Other Online Finds
04-15-2017, 08:55 AM
#1471
Burning Brakes
Personally, I would agree with you both Carlo and s65e90. Cars get rock chips and such a minor incident should have little or no impact on value.
(inhales, deep breath)
That being said, there are those who do believe otherwise.
Personally, I believe cars in general, and Porsches in particular, were made to be driven. And driven cars get rock chips and the like - hiccups as described above do happen. So, to a buyer like me, that little issue isn't going to matter one bit. To the buyer of a car of the type you find listed here in the Craigslist thread, I wouldn't think it would matter.
But, there is another thread in here titled "The Prestige Thread" for the creme de la creme of the 996TT market. Those buyers are willing to pay a super premium for a "no stories" car. If you replace the front bumper cover, you no longer have a "no stories" car. It may be a minor issue, but if you have to 'splain it, then your car falls out of contention for "The Prestige Thread" buyer and you are resigned to the unwashed masses of buyers here in the Craigslist thread. So, I'm not disagreeing, but just understand to justify that top tier buyer money, those top tier buyers don't want to hear the words "accident", "repaint", "repair" or "replace" no matter how minor the damage or good the fix.
So, to the extent that your car is no longer appealing to those buyers, there is value hit. I'm not agreeing with that philosophy, I've just seen it raise its ugly head in this forum time and time again.
(inhales, deep breath)
That being said, there are those who do believe otherwise.
Personally, I believe cars in general, and Porsches in particular, were made to be driven. And driven cars get rock chips and the like - hiccups as described above do happen. So, to a buyer like me, that little issue isn't going to matter one bit. To the buyer of a car of the type you find listed here in the Craigslist thread, I wouldn't think it would matter.
But, there is another thread in here titled "The Prestige Thread" for the creme de la creme of the 996TT market. Those buyers are willing to pay a super premium for a "no stories" car. If you replace the front bumper cover, you no longer have a "no stories" car. It may be a minor issue, but if you have to 'splain it, then your car falls out of contention for "The Prestige Thread" buyer and you are resigned to the unwashed masses of buyers here in the Craigslist thread. So, I'm not disagreeing, but just understand to justify that top tier buyer money, those top tier buyers don't want to hear the words "accident", "repaint", "repair" or "replace" no matter how minor the damage or good the fix.
So, to the extent that your car is no longer appealing to those buyers, there is value hit. I'm not agreeing with that philosophy, I've just seen it raise its ugly head in this forum time and time again.
I think what can really put buyers at ease with accidents are pictures of the damage before it was repaired. "frontal impact" sounds bad. But if it was cosmetic damage to the bumper only and you have photos of it and photos with the bumper off showing no damage underneath, I don't think it will change the value of the car much.
04-18-2017, 02:53 PM
#1473
Three Wheelin'
Seems reasonable - in South Carolina
http://greenville.craigslist.org/cto/6078360250.html
http://greenville.craigslist.org/cto/6078360250.html
04-18-2017, 04:24 PM
#1474
Track Day
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So what kind of value do you guys believe an otherwise clean car with a bad title has?
This one has been sitting on Autotrader for months Looks clean, moderate mileage, 6 spd, but it was bought back by the original dealer 14 years and 75k miles ago.
What would the price have to be for you to seriously consider picking up a car with a title issue, even if the car completely passes a PPI and has been driven/owned for years without issue?
This one has been sitting on Autotrader for months Looks clean, moderate mileage, 6 spd, but it was bought back by the original dealer 14 years and 75k miles ago.
What would the price have to be for you to seriously consider picking up a car with a title issue, even if the car completely passes a PPI and has been driven/owned for years without issue?
04-18-2017, 04:42 PM
#1476
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It's not a "salvage" title, but it has a record on the title of being a "lemon" or that it was bought back by the dealership.
Here's what autocheck says about it:
Here's what autocheck says about it:
If after a reasonable amount of attempts the authorized dealer is unable to conform a new vehicle to any of its applicable express warranties, the manufacturer shall either provide its customer with a new vehicle of a like model line, if available, or otherwise comparable vehicle as a replacement, or accept the return of the vehicle from its customer and refund to its customer the purchase price paid for the vehicle less a reasonable allowance for use of the vehicle.
04-19-2017, 12:45 AM
#1478
Pro
Not a 996TT but definitely in the price point...I am having a difficult time not pulling the trigger. I was set on a 996TT, but seeing this makes me reconsider. I did a little research, no stories...no paint work, owner is open to a PPI.
https://miami.craigslist.org/pbc/cto/6043816182.html
https://miami.craigslist.org/pbc/cto/6043816182.html
04-19-2017, 01:11 AM
#1479
Pro
On the other side of the argument, you have a car that does have a good amount of miles on it, so it may run just fine...you never know if a valued customer forced the dealers hand in buying back a car that had a few issues that weren't remedied in a timely manner for whatever reason.
Make a low offer and see if the owner bites, or see if you can find out why the car was lemoned in the first place!
04-19-2017, 01:18 AM
#1480
Not a 996TT but definitely in the price point...I am having a difficult time not pulling the trigger. I was set on a 996TT, but seeing this makes me reconsider. I did a little research, no stories...no paint work, owner is open to a PPI.
https://miami.craigslist.org/pbc/cto/6043816182.html
https://miami.craigslist.org/pbc/cto/6043816182.html
04-19-2017, 06:08 PM
#1483
04-19-2017, 06:53 PM
#1484
RL Community Team
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Here is an interesting one. I have never seen Pearl White
https://denver.craigslist.org/cto/6093590426.html
https://denver.craigslist.org/cto/6093590426.html
04-20-2017, 04:41 PM
#1485
Three Wheelin'
Sorry for this being my first post but I saw this very clean, low mileage but a 5 owner Turbo.
I've inquired about it but something seems too good to be true. What do you guys think?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2003-Porsche...vip=true&rt=nc
I've inquired about it but something seems too good to be true. What do you guys think?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2003-Porsche...vip=true&rt=nc