year and differences
#137
Drifting
Steve MFr what do you own currently and how did your 01 get in that state Lowly 01/inferiority comments why do people always get personal when behind the keyboard. I stick with its a pecking order thing for the fact that some cars have it and some don't and not for one second do I believe my car is superior because it has the extra supports= doesn't make a hill of beans difference..
#138
Instructor
Lowly/inferiority complex, etc. was not meant seriously - hence the
I can get riled up, but I will make the same comments in RL that I do virtually.
And mine is the lowly, limp version
And another thread jack...
My car: I will probably get blasted for this, but my 996tt is in the process of becoming a 997 GT2 RS.
Before I get blasted too much, tho:
- it is happening with all OEM parts (997 quarters, fenders, fender extensions front, OEM carbon GT2 wing, OEM bumper covers, etc.)
- I did not take the 996 apart. I purchased the project with a complete, accident free 996tt - albeit in pieces - and with all the 997 GT2 RS bits to do the conversion. And I got a deal. If I would have started this project, I'd have likely started with a 997tt,. And if I would have started with a 996, then def not an accident free car in good condition as mine was.
Probably not the time and place to discuss this, but I have noticed that the Porsche scene regarding modifying cars has changed with the water coolers. Air cooled guys have no qualms about building an IROC or an RSR replica. It is the quality of the work that matters. One of the wonderful things about the 911 platform is that it changes so infrequently. I see this similarly for the 996 / 997 platform. Underneath, they are very much the same (excepting minor differences such as those discussed above. )
I can get riled up, but I will make the same comments in RL that I do virtually.
And mine is the lowly, limp version
And another thread jack...
My car: I will probably get blasted for this, but my 996tt is in the process of becoming a 997 GT2 RS.
Before I get blasted too much, tho:
- it is happening with all OEM parts (997 quarters, fenders, fender extensions front, OEM carbon GT2 wing, OEM bumper covers, etc.)
- I did not take the 996 apart. I purchased the project with a complete, accident free 996tt - albeit in pieces - and with all the 997 GT2 RS bits to do the conversion. And I got a deal. If I would have started this project, I'd have likely started with a 997tt,. And if I would have started with a 996, then def not an accident free car in good condition as mine was.
Probably not the time and place to discuss this, but I have noticed that the Porsche scene regarding modifying cars has changed with the water coolers. Air cooled guys have no qualms about building an IROC or an RSR replica. It is the quality of the work that matters. One of the wonderful things about the 911 platform is that it changes so infrequently. I see this similarly for the 996 / 997 platform. Underneath, they are very much the same (excepting minor differences such as those discussed above. )
#139
Drifting
Very few air-cooled 911s unless wrecked will get the replica treatment from now on unless prices crash but see what your saying. There is only one person on here and 6spd that does things the way I see them in the over and above improvement/hp game= but that's just an opinion. There are plenty of lightly modded cars(tune exhaust suspension) that I admire but only one that is done like a well calculated math problem=guess who? Enjoy your build Steve.
#140
Rennlist Member
Lowly/inferiority complex, etc. was not meant seriously - hence the
I can get riled up, but I will make the same comments in RL that I do virtually.
And mine is the lowly, limp version
And another thread jack...
My car: I will probably get blasted for this, but my 996tt is in the process of becoming a 997 GT2 RS.
Before I get blasted too much, tho:
- it is happening with all OEM parts (997 quarters, fenders, fender extensions front, OEM carbon GT2 wing, OEM bumper covers, etc.)
- I did not take the 996 apart. I purchased the project with a complete, accident free 996tt - albeit in pieces - and with all the 997 GT2 RS bits to do the conversion. And I got a deal. If I would have started this project, I'd have likely started with a 997tt,. And if I would have started with a 996, then def not an accident free car in good condition as mine was.
Probably not the time and place to discuss this, but I have noticed that the Porsche scene regarding modifying cars has changed with the water coolers. Air cooled guys have no qualms about building an IROC or an RSR replica. It is the quality of the work that matters. One of the wonderful things about the 911 platform is that it changes so infrequently. I see this similarly for the 996 / 997 platform. Underneath, they are very much the same (excepting minor differences such as those discussed above. )
I can get riled up, but I will make the same comments in RL that I do virtually.
And mine is the lowly, limp version
And another thread jack...
My car: I will probably get blasted for this, but my 996tt is in the process of becoming a 997 GT2 RS.
Before I get blasted too much, tho:
- it is happening with all OEM parts (997 quarters, fenders, fender extensions front, OEM carbon GT2 wing, OEM bumper covers, etc.)
- I did not take the 996 apart. I purchased the project with a complete, accident free 996tt - albeit in pieces - and with all the 997 GT2 RS bits to do the conversion. And I got a deal. If I would have started this project, I'd have likely started with a 997tt,. And if I would have started with a 996, then def not an accident free car in good condition as mine was.
Probably not the time and place to discuss this, but I have noticed that the Porsche scene regarding modifying cars has changed with the water coolers. Air cooled guys have no qualms about building an IROC or an RSR replica. It is the quality of the work that matters. One of the wonderful things about the 911 platform is that it changes so infrequently. I see this similarly for the 996 / 997 platform. Underneath, they are very much the same (excepting minor differences such as those discussed above. )
#142
#143
Drifting
As a footnote, the material I have been referencing is not marketing and not public domain. It is a technical reference document distributed to dealers in conjunction with the workshop manuals which outlines each system and states changes or no changes for the current model year.
Of course there could be errors in this document but it would negligent not to correct them.
Of course there could be errors in this document but it would negligent not to correct them.
#146
RL Community Team
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Rennlist Member
It has been my experience that all manufacturers make mistakes in their technical documents and their businesses in general. I'm not so sure forgetting to correct it is negligence. Was Porsche's mid-70s 911 engine with thermal reactors negligent? Or the M96/97 engine? Automobile manufacturing is a complex business, stuff slips through the cracks.
#147
Drifting
#149
RL Community Team
Rennlist Member
Rennlist Member
Thermal reactors here:
http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/201...sche-911s-2-7/
The M96/97 thing is the infamous IMS bearing failure.
There are many others. Just Google "Porsche deadly sins".