Please help me spec sizes/offsets for my new wheels
#31
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Hyboost,
You may be able to help me. I have a 2001 996 Turbo and I just bought a set of 19” BBS e 88’s 9” front and 12” rears I have 235/35/19 tires for the fronts and 305/30/19 on order for the rears which should be arriving later this week. Should this be an easy install or should I expect to have to make any modifications?
I bought this rims rims off a buddy as they are in amazing shape and with a black 996 TT I thought that it would look cool with the gold/silver BBS e 88’s. However, I’ve been reading online and keep seeing talk about if tracking the car then the 18” rims would work better. I plan to do 2 or 3 track days a rear and wondering if I have put myself in a situation where when tracking I will have to go back to the original 18” P rims? I don’t have any suspension MODS currently all stock configuration.
Hoping that I can get some advice here from yourself or anyone else that has been in this situation with a 996 TT fitting BBS e88’s 19’s
Thanks,
Jorge
You may be able to help me. I have a 2001 996 Turbo and I just bought a set of 19” BBS e 88’s 9” front and 12” rears I have 235/35/19 tires for the fronts and 305/30/19 on order for the rears which should be arriving later this week. Should this be an easy install or should I expect to have to make any modifications?
I bought this rims rims off a buddy as they are in amazing shape and with a black 996 TT I thought that it would look cool with the gold/silver BBS e 88’s. However, I’ve been reading online and keep seeing talk about if tracking the car then the 18” rims would work better. I plan to do 2 or 3 track days a rear and wondering if I have put myself in a situation where when tracking I will have to go back to the original 18” P rims? I don’t have any suspension MODS currently all stock configuration.
Hoping that I can get some advice here from yourself or anyone else that has been in this situation with a 996 TT fitting BBS e88’s 19’s
Thanks,
Jorge
Depends on the offsets of the wheels honestly. I know there is a lot of variability in different setups and options from BBS. When I was ordering mine, I had some decisions to make.
But if your rears are same offset as mine (+42), I can honestly tell you that you will need to roll or shave your fender lips with a 305 tire. Stock height might help, but I still think it will make contact with the flat fender lip under full compression. You will also likely need the GT2 liner brackets, but that's a cheap and easy mod. Gives you the needed little clearance on the inside so the tire doesn't rub the lining.
Front not sure, but again depends on offset. I am running 245 tire and have no clearance issue on a lowered car, so likely you will be fine. Other will tell you that 235 tire is not ideal with AWD (neither is 245 but closer to the needed ratio)...but I don't want to open that can of worms up in this thread.
As far as tracking 19's vs 18's...lots of discussions and opinions on that. Tire choices and wheel weight probably will steer you toward 18's...but its not like 19's will prevent you from having some fun out there a few times a year.
(I do have a dedicated e30m3 race car that I've built out over the years and the 996 has and never will see the track..so I can't speak from personal experience on the porsche)
Feel free to email me directly if you need more info. I'd hate to distract from Steve's original post.
Rob
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#32
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Thread Starter
Just a quick update that I did receive my Forgeline wheels (GA1R Open Lug Cap) for my 996TT and went with the specs provided by powdrhound. It will be a while before they are on the car, but that is because I'm also ordering Ti wheel lugs for this project and PCCBs, as I want to do everything at once. So, at least I've obtained the wheels thanks to your great feedback, and I look forward to pursuing the rest of my modifications as time and money permit (lack of money is always the biggest obstacle, but I'm saving up). I think it will be pretty significant to have the unsprung weight reduced so much at one time, and looking forward to sharing my impressions once it's all done. Thanks again to everyone who participated in this thread...I truly appreciate it.
#33
Not to nitpick, but shouldn't wider fronts correspond to less plow (i.e., more front grip = less understeer)?
I've wondered why those who are still AWD don't run 9's and 11's with 255/35/18 + 295/30/18. GT2's are able to run a bigger diameter tire in the rear since they are RWD, and it also makes sense that you wouldn't necessarily want to add oversteer on the widowmaker. On AWD cars, though, combating understeer seems like the challenge. In my experience, stock tire sizes and 245/40/18 + 315/30/18 both understeer at the limit, especially with stock alignment.
I've wondered why those who are still AWD don't run 9's and 11's with 255/35/18 + 295/30/18. GT2's are able to run a bigger diameter tire in the rear since they are RWD, and it also makes sense that you wouldn't necessarily want to add oversteer on the widowmaker. On AWD cars, though, combating understeer seems like the challenge. In my experience, stock tire sizes and 245/40/18 + 315/30/18 both understeer at the limit, especially with stock alignment.
and congrats on the new setup @steve theodore
#34
Not to nitpick, but shouldn't wider fronts correspond to less plow (i.e., more front grip = less understeer)?
I've wondered why those who are still AWD don't run 9's and 11's with 255/35/18 + 295/30/18. GT2's are able to run a bigger diameter tire in the rear since they are RWD, and it also makes sense that you wouldn't necessarily want to add oversteer on the widowmaker. On AWD cars, though, combating understeer seems like the challenge. In my experience, stock tire sizes and 245/40/18 + 315/30/18 both understeer at the limit, especially with stock alignment.
I've wondered why those who are still AWD don't run 9's and 11's with 255/35/18 + 295/30/18. GT2's are able to run a bigger diameter tire in the rear since they are RWD, and it also makes sense that you wouldn't necessarily want to add oversteer on the widowmaker. On AWD cars, though, combating understeer seems like the challenge. In my experience, stock tire sizes and 245/40/18 + 315/30/18 both understeer at the limit, especially with stock alignment.
I wasn't able to get anything to fit apart from a set of Advan A050s in 245/40/18 so had them fitted up and took it easy to get through the weekend as I couldn't get a matching set of rears. I was worried about the difference in revs and any stress it may put on the front diff though it seems to have been fine (traction light didn't come on) and fitment seems okay. I need to pull the wheels off this week anyway so will look in detail (suspension is stock with some negative camber dialled in).
One thing I did find though with the 245 fronts was the car turned in much better so I actually wonder the same thing, why people don't run a bigger front with the stock rear tyre? Is it the stock wheel widths?
#35
Three Wheelin'
I'm also considering 245/40 with 315/30s when my Yoks are done. I still have a 2000-3000 miles remaining, which means another year.
#36
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Hey guys,
I'm going to buy a set of new Forgeline GA1R open lug cap wheels for my 2002 996TT and want to make sure I spec the offsets correctly for my needs as I fear Forgeline may not give me exactly what I want if I just tell them to 'do something aggressive' for my 996TT. My goal is an aggressive street car that fills the wheel wells pretty much flush to fender, so that it fills them out like my OEM GT3 RS. I do plan to retain AWD in case that helps provide more context. I do not want to run wheel spacers, hence wanting to get the offsets correct from the get-go.
Reference Examples
Stock 996 TT: 18x8 ET50, 18x11 ET45 (please correct me if this isn't right, from Google results)
Stock 996 GT2: 18x8.5 ET40, 18x12 ET45 (please correct me if this isn't right, from Google results)
A buddies ultra-aggressive spec on FinSpeed F110s: 18x10 ET38, 18x13 ET46 (this is likely TOO AGGRESSIVE for my needs)
In theory I'm fine with 235 front and 295 or 305 rears as this won't be a track special, so I just want to get the offsets right mainly. I'm only interested in 18 inch wheels, not 19s. If you could share a few pictures of what you've done on your own 996TT, I'd definitely appreciate that too. Thanks in advance.
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...df2e23ba8e.jpg
I'm going to buy a set of new Forgeline GA1R open lug cap wheels for my 2002 996TT and want to make sure I spec the offsets correctly for my needs as I fear Forgeline may not give me exactly what I want if I just tell them to 'do something aggressive' for my 996TT. My goal is an aggressive street car that fills the wheel wells pretty much flush to fender, so that it fills them out like my OEM GT3 RS. I do plan to retain AWD in case that helps provide more context. I do not want to run wheel spacers, hence wanting to get the offsets correct from the get-go.
Reference Examples
Stock 996 TT: 18x8 ET50, 18x11 ET45 (please correct me if this isn't right, from Google results)
Stock 996 GT2: 18x8.5 ET40, 18x12 ET45 (please correct me if this isn't right, from Google results)
A buddies ultra-aggressive spec on FinSpeed F110s: 18x10 ET38, 18x13 ET46 (this is likely TOO AGGRESSIVE for my needs)
In theory I'm fine with 235 front and 295 or 305 rears as this won't be a track special, so I just want to get the offsets right mainly. I'm only interested in 18 inch wheels, not 19s. If you could share a few pictures of what you've done on your own 996TT, I'd definitely appreciate that too. Thanks in advance.
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...df2e23ba8e.jpg
Forgeline and many shops know these cars well enough.
#37
I'm one of those guys running 235/40/18s with 295/30s out back on 8.5x11/18s. Yokohama AD08Rs. Works great for VERY tight canyon carving similar to "02996ttx50.
I'm also considering 245/40 with 315/30s when my Yoks are done. I still have a 2000-3000 miles remaining, which means another year.
I'm also considering 245/40 with 315/30s when my Yoks are done. I still have a 2000-3000 miles remaining, which means another year.
I'm wondering if I should stick with the 245 front and 295 rear.
#39
Three Wheelin'
Yes I have driven several thousand miles on stock sizes on both stock wheels and my current 8.5x11x18 setup on the exact same Western Marin & Sonoma coastal roads - Doc, you would love the drive!
We're talking different tire brands though, so I'm not really making a tire comparison, merely a statement that the larger 235s up front work great for me with regards to my driving style and use case.
Also of note, the Yoko AD08R 225/40/18s are the exact same height (25") and revs per mile (831) as the 295/30s. I prefer to stick with Porsche's spec of having a slightly taller from tire, so the AD08R 235/40/18 at 25.3" & 820 revs per mile matches up nicely to their 295. The 235/40 also fits better on the 8.5" wheel.
Many of the other brands in 225 & 295 do preserve the taller front to rear ratio.
#40
RL Community Team
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....Also of note, the Yoko AD08R 225/40/18s are the exact same height (25") and revs per mile (831) as the 295/30s. I prefer to stick with Porsche's spec of having a slightly taller from tire, so the AD08R 235/40/18 at 25.3" & 820 revs per mile matches up nicely to their 295. The 235/40 also fits better on the 8.5" wheel....
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#41
RL Community Team
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Thanks for the information.
My X73 suspension on stock sways and with a bit of an aggressive alignment does really well on the North Georgia mountain curves, including the tight/curvy Hwy 180. Turn in is sharp, and the grip with the Michelins is solid.
I've driven many of the roads in the area you mentioned, just not in a sports car. Beautiful area and phenomenal roads.
My X73 suspension on stock sways and with a bit of an aggressive alignment does really well on the North Georgia mountain curves, including the tight/curvy Hwy 180. Turn in is sharp, and the grip with the Michelins is solid.
I've driven many of the roads in the area you mentioned, just not in a sports car. Beautiful area and phenomenal roads.