Need a sanity check on Turbo values
#16
Three Wheelin'
overrev reports are worthless on 996, you have range 1 and range 2, and range 2s can be hit by revving the car in neutral or running through the gears and shifting fast at redline in a completely stock car. It's nothing like the newer cars that have range 1 through range 6 or more that tell you a precise range for how high the RPM was.
#18
+1.
BTW, mileage listed at 37,400, then under 36k in ad writeup, which is puzzling. But also it's not 40k miles.
The ad writeup has some errors - those red calipers mean it's not the same as an '05 Turbo S. Additionally, the description of the condition doesn't match your description (fwiw, I'd bet your description is a lot closer to reality than the seller's).
BTW, mileage listed at 37,400, then under 36k in ad writeup, which is puzzling. But also it's not 40k miles.
The ad writeup has some errors - those red calipers mean it's not the same as an '05 Turbo S. Additionally, the description of the condition doesn't match your description (fwiw, I'd bet your description is a lot closer to reality than the seller's).
when I drove it, it was 37k and some change, not 36k.
like many said on this thread, interior stuff can be taken care of, just the question of what it says about how the car was treated. The search goes on!
#19
Three Wheelin'
I know it is. I tested it a while back when my car was stock, and others have also reported similar behavior. Especially in lower gears. Run to redline in 1st gear and shift quickly into 2nd like you're trying for your best 0-60 run and it will register range 2 on occasion. The clutch cant stop the inertia of the rotating assembly and rev limit isn't a hard stop at a set rpm. Rev limit not being a hard stop is the same reason why it will range 2 if revving it at a stop, it bounces if you are crazy enough to rev it to rev limiter and the ignition cut can't stop it before it incidentally has a range 2 ignition go through.. Granted, I consider revving in neutral to rev limit to be abuse, but accelerating hard and shifting fast, the car was made for it.
Some people have even reported having more range 2 revs than range 1 which is also theoretically impossible since you cant register a 2 without going through 1.
My point was that the overrev system on these cars is extremely primitive and often inaccurate, and even something incidental can show up as range 2 and there is no way to tell if it was 1 rpm over or 1000 rpm over.
Some people have even reported having more range 2 revs than range 1 which is also theoretically impossible since you cant register a 2 without going through 1.
My point was that the overrev system on these cars is extremely primitive and often inaccurate, and even something incidental can show up as range 2 and there is no way to tell if it was 1 rpm over or 1000 rpm over.
#21
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I know it is. I tested it a while back when my car was stock, and others have also reported similar behavior. Especially in lower gears. Run to redline in 1st gear and shift quickly into 2nd like you're trying for your best 0-60 run and it will register range 2 on occasion.
#23
Three Wheelin'
The soft cutout is at 6750 rpm, and range 2 is triggered at 7250 rpm. That would be a 500 rpm overshoot while in the soft cutout. Additionally, if a normal shift at red line was accomplished, the driver would be manually reducing the throttle input as the clutch was being depressed. This along with the soft cutout would make it very difficult to continue another 500 rpm beyond red line. If the driver power shifted (throttle on the floor) and the soft limiter was not functioning correctly allowing the rpm to reach (exceed?) 7250, then I'd opine that this rev 2 event would be relevant as it could indicate abuse.
Also, consider this attached readout- more range 2s than range 1s. Should be impossible, but again- these cars can register phantom range 2 revs.
I don't want to derail this thread anymore, so if you want to continue the discussion I'd be happy to do so in another thread. Otherwise, have a good afternoon
#24
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Then pick a thread or start a thread.