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Old 05-12-2018, 02:53 PM
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Howdy Folks,

I installed a set of H&Rs this weekend and added a 10mm spacer on the back struts in order to level the car out more, or potentially have front end slightly lower.. Have any of you done this before?
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I put spacers front and rear to get my car up to the gt2 minomum height with H&R springs, i am on my third front lip since i put the springs in. It was waaay low at first.
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You guys have details on the spacers used, especially on the front one?
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Unlike the OPs spacer on the spring (nicely done) i used drilled out large diameter washers and placed them over the 3 mounting bolts on each top hat. I think mine were .11" thick and I drilled out the ID larger than the mounting bolts because there is a raised chamfer around the bolt where it comes out of the top hat. I put them on the front and rear and just barely got to GT2 ride height. I am at 25 1/2 rear and 25 3/8 front to the fender arch.
This is the table I made

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Originally Posted by 00Coupe


Howdy Folks,

I installed a set of H&Rs this weekend and added a 10mm spacer on the back struts in order to level the car out more, or potentially have front end slightly lower.. Have any of you done this before?
Where did you get the spacers from? I have B8 shocks and the same springs and I'm about an 1/8" lower in the rear that I would like to correct.
Thanks
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I to have the B8 shocks. Can you guys with H&R springs post your wheel arch measurements? Inquiring minds woul like to know
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Originally Posted by Third-Reef
I to have the B8 shocks. Can you guys with H&R springs post your wheel arch measurements? Inquiring minds woul like to know
Front = 25 3/8"
Rear = 25 1/8"
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Originally Posted by 00Coupe
I installed a set of H&Rs this weekend and added a 10mm spacer on the back struts in order to level the car out more, or potentially have front end slightly lower.. Have any of you done this before?
@00Coupe, how about posting up some info on the spacers you used? Did you machine them yourself or find a source for them?

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For what it's worth, my stock 2001 Turbo has about 1/2" of negative rake...
~60K miles on the original stock springs, stock tire sizes without excessive rear tire wear.

I have a set of H&R springs and F/R B8's waiting to go on, but I'd like to figure out spacers if needed before I start the install.

Ride height photos blow. Apologies for my disgustingly dirty wheels and calipers! ;-O

Front:





Rear:

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Hello,

Spacers were custom made, steel coated in high zinc paint.. I put a bit of silicone to stick it to strut lip..

51mm ID, 75mm OD, 10mm thick ..

I haven’t assembled other side yet, but my fender to floor will be ~26.5” because I have 295/30R19s, 225/40R19 tires...
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With the B&H springs and how low it will end up you will need toe links or the eccentric bushings to be able to get your camber and toe set propetly. I did the elephant racing eccentric bushings (cheapest route) but real adjustable toe links would be better. Elephant also has great prices on the stock front top mounts.
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Originally Posted by Third-Reef
With the B&H springs and how low it will end up you will need toe links or the eccentric bushings to be able to get your camber and toe set propetly. I did the elephant racing eccentric bushings (cheapest route) but real adjustable toe links would be better. Elephant also has great prices on the stock front top mounts.
Im going for alignment on Saturday.. Ill let you guys know the results..

The rear is only 12-15mm lower than OE, so it might be ok..
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I'm in the process of replacing my bilstein/H&R setup. While I was removing the strut perch (I think that's how it is called) I started thinking if adding a bigger spacer between the perch and the strut would be a better solution for raising the front like you did in the rear. There is currently a thin spacer there, so adding a thicker one should be a good solution?

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I discussed shimming the coils with the guy at H&R before i installed my set. He was concerned about coil binding due to reduced space for coil when the shock compresses and said that they are designed for the current travel of the shock and bad things could happen if the geometry was altered. That is why i left the coil and shock alone on my install and simply shimmed the top mount down from the body where it mounts. Coil shims are probably not a problem but if too thick might make for some harsh hits if you G out.
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Originally Posted by Third-Reef
I discussed shimming the coils with the guy at H&R before i installed my set. He was concerned about coil binding due to reduced space for coil when the shock compresses and said that they are designed for the current travel of the shock and bad things could happen if the geometry was altered. That is why i left the coil and shock alone on my install and simply shimmed the top mount down from the body where it mounts. Coil shims are probably not a problem but if too thick might make for some harsh hits if you G out.
Can you describe again exactly how you shimmed? You mentioned large diameter washers, just standard steel washers? do you recall what size washers you started with and what you drilled the new ID to be? Happen to take any pictures?

Did you do this front and rear?

I'm sure it would make sense to me once I have everything apart, but I'm trying to get an idea exactly what I need to do for shimming before disassembly.

Also, not directly related to shimming, but I did H&R's on a 996 C2 years ago myself. I remember the fronts being pretty easy. What additional parts need to come off with the AWD to finesse the front struts out?


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