Mattbarb

Hi all,

I recently bought a 996tt and have experienced the popout on a number of occasions now. Im hopeful that the Gbox detent will sort the issue but a bit worried that the 1st 2nd might need an overhaul Gbox out. It doesn't feel great (rough) when engaging.

I had PPI done and it wasn't picked up which is rather frustrating to say the least.

Has anyone uk based had a rebuild done what kind of money would I be looking at?

many thanks all

"02996ttx50

the detent won't cure the popout. it will only help to help to prevent it, in an 01/02 MY car ( which im assuming you have? ).. in which it has not yet occurred. or so i am told. but no doubt, your synchros are shot ( or shyte as it were! )

im not uk based but the remedy is the same on either side of the pond. a replacement of 1/2 gears and the synchros. GL w it. it's not a difficult repair, just relatively expensive.

i had my PPI done by the porsche dealership that sold me my previous 96t that was plagued with this issue.. won't do THAT again! so i feel your pain.

prices over here are all over the map. porsche wants 8k to R&R while a fair indie would want btw 4 ( min! ) to-5k+ depending on what all ( else ) might be needed. good time to take advantage of this misfortune, and upgrade your box if you're so inclined, and you track the car etc.

Mattbarb

Thanks for the response it's a 03 ,what a pain. I spoke few people and must had read a dozen articles on the issue some have said that the detent can fix the problem and a reputable independent said the cars they had fitted the detent to no longer had the problem I'm hopeful...

Others have said as you have, prevention only.

I guess I should push for this to be done in warranty (rebuild) and not only detent.

"02996ttx50

wow, sucks. first time I've heard of it ever in an '03. perhaps it was a late 02 build date? as the shim tolerances were amended by porsche ( they'd heard enough of this issue by then! ) to change the gear stack placement with shims in cars beyond '02 MY ( or so i was told..).

in terms of any rebuild? re-shimming to the "amended" specs is of paramount importance.

porsche had to RE-DO their own rebuild as they initially rebuilt it to the OLD specs, and believe me when i say i had an enormous yet short-lived ( and ultimately successful ) battle with PCNA over that bit of subterfuge. they acted ( initially ) as if they'd never ever heard of the issue!

what type ( and from whom ) of warranty do you have? it must be aftermarket by now? but yes, push for it, and attempt ( as i did ) to lay blame at the selling dealership. this was back in 09 though, and i had the prescience to purchase their CPO warranty and pay the extra $3k!.. thankfully.

i'm re-living the nightmare as i type. holding the gearshift while downhill traversing lasted about two weeks and i was done %*&%%#%$@!!

911mhawk

If the detent helps, trade it in or plan on a repairs that can cost anywhere from $3k - $15k.

"02996ttx50

15,000 quid! maybe but ONLY if a porsche dealership in bahrain does the work. 15k USD? is preposterous.

roger at https://californiamotorsports.net/co...ission-rebuild

will quote you a grand ( see link ) to open a g50 box and for your issue it's not gonna be more than another 4 grand in parts if replacing oem/stock.

but that's stateside.

911mhawk

I speak USD when I'm here and $15k is obviously on the high side, meaning all bearings, shift sleeves, retaining plate, some gears, all steel synchros, GT2 main/1/2/3, LSD(you may want some when you get the estimate/bill).
However, a new ring and pinion, several bearings, a gear or two, synchros, R&R and maybe a clutch and PP while your at it will be ~$10k.
I had Brian Copans build it because his Porsche factory experience and knowledge are trusted by many and he wasn't any more expensive to work with.

"02996ttx50

sure for fully rebuilding a cup car and/or track ready box, ok i can see that.

but he asked about r&r for 2nd gear popout. i'd venture that if he pays more than say $6k in any denominated currencies - based upon my experience with both indies and porsche dealerships vis a vis transmission work - then he'd be paying too much.

also, the more choices/options available for repair shops, the better the prices tend to be. we are fortunate in that regard as to a few "choices", out here in SoCal.

911mhawk

Damn, we're on the same page again!

Hope you'r not having issues too, sounded like you may be going back in?

"02996ttx50

not me thanks... mine is smooth as butter after new bearings installed! plus i dbl clutch and rev match

curious to hear what our friend across the pond is gonna do though. i dont really know uk prices or options.

BioBanker

PO of my car handed me invoices from Porsche in Greenich for fixing this that were around $12.5k.

"02996ttx50

wow. so i was quoted 8k by a dealership ( if was not to be covered by cpo warranty ) and that would've been a "deal". incredible.

i bet porsche only paid the dealer around 5$k, since they never pay "retail" to a dealer for warranty work.

Mattbarb

32krazy!

if your modifying your car and do hard launches the 997 gt2 1-2 and 3 gearsets are a better way to go along with straight cut 456 gears. if your under 700 hp and rarely launch hard oem gearsets are fine. cost wise theres very little difference.