Numeric shifter install
03-12-2018, 10:17 AM
#16
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Do you have it on the middle setting? If not I would try it there.
I can understand short throw shifters being to each persons tastes. I had a B&M shifter on my VW gti, and that thing was a steaming pile of garbage. The pin that the shift lever actuated on actually fractured at the end and the shifter fell down into the shift housing one day. That shifter was stiff just for the sake of stiff, engagement was poor etc. So after that experience for years, I know what I do not like in a short throw. The Numeric is completely different. Which is a very good thing. No wonder B&M discontinued that shifter...
I can understand short throw shifters being to each persons tastes. I had a B&M shifter on my VW gti, and that thing was a steaming pile of garbage. The pin that the shift lever actuated on actually fractured at the end and the shifter fell down into the shift housing one day. That shifter was stiff just for the sake of stiff, engagement was poor etc. So after that experience for years, I know what I do not like in a short throw. The Numeric is completely different. Which is a very good thing. No wonder B&M discontinued that shifter...
yea, i've spent a week in each of the 3 settings, i like the middle the best.
03-12-2018, 10:31 AM
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I had a B&M shifter on my VW gti, and that thing was a steaming pile of garbage. The pin that the shift lever actuated on actually fractured at the end and the shifter fell down into the shift housing one day. That shifter was stiff just for the sake of stiff, engagement was poor etc...
Still available from Champion Motorsport. (BTW, B&M manufactured the stock shifter for Porsche).
03-12-2018, 10:56 AM
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It is very direct feeling, some increase in effort but each shift is "oh yep no doubt thats 1st,2nd,3rd" etc. I think notchy more when a short throw isnt working or calibrated correctly that it hesitates going into gear. This does not do that. Mine is also set on the middle setting. I think the shortest setting may require too much effort, and take away the smooth direct ess that it has. im so happy right now with it, I dont want to touch it and tempt fate lol.
03-12-2018, 06:06 PM
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Certainly could have been. My GTI is a "franken motor" one where it is a 99.5 MKIV (earliest of early production), that shares parts from both the MKIII and MKIV. They only made one shifter for it since it was such a niche product. They later changed the design on the MKIV which has plenty of support, but doesnt retro fit to mine (mounts are different). It was like my car was a development platform for them. very strange. I even have to ve careful about ordering parts for the car as it uses a coil pack from a MKIII VR6 12v.
03-12-2018, 06:48 PM
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03-12-2018, 07:18 PM
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You know details about his specific shifter and its installation? How can you say "it wasn't" without that information?
Installing the B&M short shifter in a 996 Turbo takes high attention to detail. When I purchased my B&M short shifter (I installed it in June 2004) there was no device available (that I know of) to aid in alignment. There were posts over on 6speed around the time I installed my B&M where people complained about the shifter, only to change their minds after adjusting it properly.
My B&M short shifter has been great since the day I installed it; I haven't touched it since in terms of adjustments. So over 13 years of use with out issue. I love how it shifts.
Installing the B&M short shifter in a 996 Turbo takes high attention to detail. When I purchased my B&M short shifter (I installed it in June 2004) there was no device available (that I know of) to aid in alignment. There were posts over on 6speed around the time I installed my B&M where people complained about the shifter, only to change their minds after adjusting it properly.
My B&M short shifter has been great since the day I installed it; I haven't touched it since in terms of adjustments. So over 13 years of use with out issue. I love how it shifts.
03-12-2018, 10:24 PM
#22
You know details about his specific shifter and its installation? How can you say "it wasn't" without that information?
Installing the B&M short shifter in a 996 Turbo takes high attention to detail. When I purchased my B&M short shifter (I installed it in June 2004) there was no device available (that I know of) to aid in alignment. There were posts over on 6speed around the time I installed my B&M where people complained about the shifter, only to change their minds after adjusting it properly.
My B&M short shifter has been great since the day I installed it; I haven't touched it since in terms of adjustments. So over 13 years of use with out issue. I love how it shifts.
Installing the B&M short shifter in a 996 Turbo takes high attention to detail. When I purchased my B&M short shifter (I installed it in June 2004) there was no device available (that I know of) to aid in alignment. There were posts over on 6speed around the time I installed my B&M where people complained about the shifter, only to change their minds after adjusting it properly.
My B&M short shifter has been great since the day I installed it; I haven't touched it since in terms of adjustments. So over 13 years of use with out issue. I love how it shifts.
it didnt take an expert to feel the slop in the b&m and the plastic housing it is installed into. moving to an aluminum based haousing and bearing and heim joint shifter is worlds better in both feel and performance.
03-13-2018, 12:02 AM
#23
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Ive had B&M SS since the begining, love the rifle bolt action, not sure what the problems are, didn't use an alignment tool never had any issues. I think those that have had problems might need to learn to be direct and know where they are while shifting and those that aren't direct with the shifting action will have issues, most mis shifts are from not having a good grasp of timing and keeping track of where they are while grabbing gears. are there any better ss out there? Im sure there is but never had a need to change, love my B&M never had any problems..
03-13-2018, 03:04 AM
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I think you do need to know the details.
Given the number of people who have had the B&M short shifter in their 996s over the years (Turbo and N/A models) and not had any issue with them, and have loved the feel and performance, you may want to reconsider your macro opinion of the shifter.
Given the number of people who have had the B&M short shifter in their 996s over the years (Turbo and N/A models) and not had any issue with them, and have loved the feel and performance, you may want to reconsider your macro opinion of the shifter.
03-13-2018, 07:46 AM
#26
Originally Posted by Dock
I think you do need to know the details.
Given the number of people who have had the B&M short shifter in their 996s over the years (Turbo and N/A models) and not had any issue with them, and have loved the feel and performance, you may want to reconsider your macro opinion of the shifter.
Given the number of people who have had the B&M short shifter in their 996s over the years (Turbo and N/A models) and not had any issue with them, and have loved the feel and performance, you may want to reconsider your macro opinion of the shifter.
Also I was referring to the others post. Since I have run both shifters I don't need his details I have first hand experience
03-13-2018, 11:55 AM
#28
There's no comparing B&M to Numeric. One is plastic and one is metal.
03-13-2018, 12:55 PM
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