Marco Polo

I am toying with the idea of removing the PCCB system from my car until the "test of time" gives us a better idea of its best care and use.

If I do, I'd obviously need to replace the brakes with another system. It would seem logical to use the standard iron system for the GT3.

1. Any reason to look at any other systems than the standard GT3?

2. Can any of you supply me with the part numbers for all necessary equipment to do the swap? (I believe that swap would entail new calipers, rotors, & pads. Any other little bits?)

I know it requires some time to search out part numbers. I suppose that the data may be of continuing interest to Rennlist readers, but my great thanks if you can help.

Sloth

I asked a similar question yesterday. Take a look here for the responces I got.

http://www.renntech.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=663

Regards...

PogueMoHone

I can't help you with part #s, but I would suggest that if you're going to make a change consider copying the brake setup on the cup car. Somebody here will know the part #s.

AW

The problem with the Cup car setup is that it won't work very well when cold. Maybe that's a good solution but at least with some different pads. I'm working with my dealer to get a steel setup. They claim that steel rotors are now available for the GT2 (surprise surprise). I will post all the info once I have it.

AW

Marco Polo

Thanks, Sloth, Colm & AW.

Sloth, did you have the same idea as me for doing the swap?

skl

I'm glad now I didn't get the PCCB's on my car! And I saved $8300 !! Would like the reduced unsprung weight though...

twisted

Did not one of the designers/engineers say that the shocks where originally designed for the steal brake setup and that they had not taken the time to re-setup or offer a different shocks/suspension for the cars with PCCB's??

GTGTGT

What's next? Steel rotors on the Carrera GT?

Sloth

I am more looking ahead in case I should have any future problems. The retrofit would pay for itself by the time you pay for one PCCB rotor.

PogueMoHone

Arnaud,

The poor cold performance on the cup car set up is more an issue of pads than rotors, etc.

Remember, the green pads are not permitted for street use because of poor performance before they come up to temperature.

I am beginning to think for ultimate track potential (cost/benefit) the cup car set up is the way to go. Just use different street pads.

bob_dallas

What's the difference on the cup car other than pads? Rotors are the same 350/330, 6 piston front/4 piston rear. Might be some ABS mods or a different master cylinder but doesn't appear the components are different.

Steve in FL

bob_dallas: No difference other than ABS calibration is my understanding. And the pad material as delivered.

bob_dallas

thx - so not much of an "upgrade" there

Sun Ra

guys, don't you think it's a little silly to replace your working pccb, just because you're reading about a few guys who had trouble?

bob r has 10,000 fast track miles on his pccb rotors, that's what 4 sets of steel rotors? so he's paid for the pccb in their longer service life, and his rotors are not done yet.

my pcna exec just returned from europe where they discussed the issue at length: problems seem to come on the track from guys who don't follow the workshp manual:

- use correct pads race pads for heavy track., etc
-kep brakes clean with compressed air
-make sure ducts iin correct position
-cool brakes frequently
- do not hammer the ABS continuously -- use classic 9/10's braking with no abs

generally in europe they replace one set of rotors, explain the rules and send the customer on their own.

i dont know nada, but this is a tempest in a teapot to me

PogueMoHone

So why the significant changes to the literature? It hardly seems warranted (no pun intended).