Edinsf

I'm interest in a particular GT3 and it has a GIAC ECU flash and I've read that the GT3 doesn't need a flash so I'm wondering if I should pursue this car any further. Any thoughts?
Thanks

KOAN

ask for before and after dyno runs.

Edinsf

^^^^

Chuck I'm really not interested in any performance gains as I would prefer the car to be untouched and stock. It's just that I've read that changing the ECU shortens the longevity of the engine.

996FLT6

I think giac tune can be removed via obd 2 and returned to stock. It's not the type where u send off the ecu box and they install a new chip in it. Mike

DHI

I don't think you should avoid a car just on account of it having a flash.

Edinsf

Thanks Mike, thanks DHI.

Car is 2 owners $65,000 and 36,000 miles.

AudiOn19s

I wouldn't see a flash as a bad thing. GIAC is one of the biggest names in the tuning world. The only way tunes can hurt motors is mainly in forced induction cars and usually that's when a smaller company is doing custom tune work to try to squeeze every last hp out of the tune in question.

The bigger companies "standard" tunes might be a little more aggressive than stock but are still safe. Plus the Bosch moronic ECU in our cars does a very good job of cutting power and timing when it needs to. I've had a GIAC flash in my Audi A4 turbo for most of its 220k miles

Back to the GT3 specific platform. I think most of us see tuning as "bad" in that it's just not a great buy from a cost benefit standpoint so most avoid it. Money is much better spent in other areas on our cars.

mooty

that's big money for a 996.
i would want it to be beyond perfect.
to me, any ecu once touched, i will not buy it.
that's just me.
i dont care how good it is is. i wont touch it.
no, it's not bad, but its not worth 65000 anymore in my book

Dervish

Out of curiosity why is that?

I ask as companies like EVOMs etc get great reviews on their flashes and are installed/ recommended by some of the best tuners.

Why would this then be a no-go for you?

aussie jimmy

factory tune is always best.

unless you personally turn the car into an all-out proposition which needs a tune to accomodate
cams, fuelling, heads, intake, exhaust mods.

mooty

evo does a great job. i drove their tune on many cars. but for me personally, I just dont like tunes or mods. and i also dont like the word TURBO. that's why i dont buy turbos. nothing to do with performance, i simply dont like the word. i also dont like the number 4 and 13. i quite my last job b/c office moved to 13th floor. nothing wrong with it. it's just my.

and to the OP. at 60+ for a 33000 miles 996gt3, i would expect absolute perefction. it's above mkt price.

Number54

I know Audi has tuned some of their cars lean from the factory because of the reduced emissions, which isn't good when you are pushing the car hard. A good tune will improve engine reliability over stock, a bad one will make it worse. Not sure if Porsche plays the same tricks.