Pictures of Ram Air Scoop
 

Attached are some pictures of the ram air scoop that Jack at Euro Pros Collision in Rockville, MD installed for me. He took the part from FVD that really doesn't fit well at all and custom molded it onto the rear deck lid. He spent a lot of time making it look OEM and I think it came out great.

Nicely done! I like the white. I am having my CF unit from Getty installed in the near future. He does the same thing; fits it to a GT3 engine deck lid before he ships.

That is the result of a true craftsman!

That's what I'd hope to see. Glad I saw this thread before ordering, because I'd have assumed FVD would send a properly fitting piece... Looks like I'll be sitting this one out until maybe I see the Getty unit mounted up. I could see going CF on my Seal Gray...

Mike

Cool.. Custom molded!!

That looks great!!! I just purchased the FVD unit for my car, and it's going to take a lot of work to make it fit properly. I'll show my body shop your pictures. Thanks!

We carry a cargraphics CF version that is a very nice fit.

Looks like the cup car scoop I have from getty on my car.

Thanks all. I was amazed that Jack was able to get it to look like a factory piece after seeing how poorly it lined up on the deck lid when it arrived from FVD. I'm pretty sure that he didn't come close to charging me for all of the time he spent on it. He did an RS bumper for me at the same time so I paid for everything together.

FVD piece fitment is poo - we'v discssued this

I think it is a piece by piece issue? I remember reading about someone installed it using tape and due to the piece being slightly tweaked, one side edge was coming up after awhile?

For my case, I had the shop install the scoop toward the back a little bit (flatter surface), enlarge the inlet holes on the deck, and had the scoop permanently glued to the deck (instead of using just the tape), and didn't have problem that way.

That's some quality work you've got there, so is the scoop sitting on the bodywork or is it bonded somehow.

I'm sure it has, but some of us are new to the 6GT3 and haven't seen this previously. :cool:

The poor fitment of the FVD ram air piece has definitely been discussed before. I decided to take my chances since it wasn't that expensive. Unfortunately, I was fairly disappointed when I received the part and tried to test fit it to the deck lid. If you place it where it's supposed to go, the end pieces that curve forward towards the front of the car do not follow the curve of the deck lid and stick way up, creating a gap underneath. I was pretty much ready to throw the part out or return it, but my body shop guy said he could make it work and indeed he did. It is now completely molded into the rear deck lid as if it came that way from the factory. I don't necessarily recommend this approach as the labor ends up costing way more than the part. Since I did the RS bumper at the same time, there were some economies of scale involved. However, a better fitting piece would probably require less labor to achieve a similar result. Regardless, I am happy.

What I don't know is if there is any actual pressure increase in the airbox at speed resulting in a horsepower bump. I think the factory RS ram air was supposed to give around 10 hp at 100 mph and this 'looks' similar, so I'm thinking there should be some benefit but I'm not in any position to measure it.

I don't know whether there's horsepower gain or not, but it definitely creates some extra induction sound... !

Very nice I would like to incorporate a better unit into our build if anyone comes across one.

Bumping an old thread here as my search didn't yield anything newer. Which suppliers currently offer the ram air scoop for the 996 GT3? I called Getty and got no answer. I also emailed them and have yet to receive a reply. I would prefer not to use a part that is known to need extensive modification to make it fit, so FVD is out.

You might check eBay in Germany, ebay.de. Probably called a Cup Hutze or RS Hutze.

Thanks for the tip. I'll check it out.

If anyone else knows of a US vendor, please let me know. I imported my RS/Manthey wing from Germany, and shipping/import duties added a bit of additional annoyance. Will go that route again if it's not possible to buy a quality part that's already in the US.

Here's one, and they will ship to the U.S. Looks like the part number is: 99651295794G2X

http://www.ebay.de/itm/NEU-ORIG-Pors...item25bf995aea

Searched on the part number 99651295794G2X and there is at least one source in the US, albeit at nearly twice the price.

I ordered mine from FVD this year. I had my body shop prep/paint and I installed it with double sided tape instead of screwing it to the decklid. The fit is great and it is stuck on there properly at many 170mph+ runs. My only problem was the horrible service I received from FVD. Their website said it was available and it actually took 3 months to get. Their communication was bad with many of my e-mails asking for updates ignored. Overall I'm happy with the part but will never order or recommend anybody order anything from FVD.

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Let me know if you want to sell it anytime soon ;) ;)

Thanks again!

I just ordered one of these ducts, which will need to be installed with adhesive or tape. Do you know what brand of tape your shop used to install your duct?

We installed it with 3M double sided tape.

Thanks for the quick reply, and pardon my ignorance, but do you know the particular type/model of 3M tape? A quick search shows several different types by 3M.

Whichever one the stickiest is. :)

I have one from cargraphic which I installed using 3m tape also.

I am pretty sure this type of air scoop works. When we were tuning my ecu because of the cargraphic exhaust, we had to retune a few times on the road to compensate for the added air when car reaches 200 kmh or 130+mph. This was verified during with my Air fuel ratio meter, engine goes a bit lean at those speeds so we had to add fuel while it doesn't during the dyno tuning process.

Love the ram air. On the list.

Use the 3m 5962 tape. Used it to install a cf roof and it is working great.

http://www.uline.com/Product/Detail/...OrderHistory=Y

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You only used 3M double-sided tape to install your roof?

I did not want to drill several holes in the cf roof so I used a combination of the 3M tape and fabricated 4 aluminium strips to anchor from the roof rack support holes.

I used this tape to install the rear and side polycarbonate windows without drill one hole. The tape is excellent an is being used to replace fasteners in new car manufacturing.

I don't mean to hijack this thread so you can check out my project here: https://rennlist.com/forums/996-foru...rack-mods.html

I would have thought the roof section contributed to structural rigidity. How was it originally attached?

The 50+ pounds (sunroof) over my head was more of my concern. It is spot welded in place. After I lightened the car by 127 pounds (with cf hood and glass removal) I was able to shave off 4 seconds off my best time at a track. I did not noticed and rigidity issues.

I thought 3M made carbon-fiber specific epoxy for this type install - bonds CF to metal...I am no expert...I'm sure that tape is strong but I don't know how long it will last.

Did you consider the epoxy route?

No I did not. I have experience with this tape and I not a big fan of epoxy and glues. Way to messy.

This tape replaces metal fasteners and welding. It is good stuff. http://www.uline.com/BL_6104/3M-5962...ylic-Foam-Tape

Thank you very much!

Interesting...thanks for the info

It is interesting. I know Aston Martin uses adhesives for assembly. Back to the air scoop, I don't see that anyone has posted a part number or price for the factory part. How expensive is it?

I ordered a scoop from MA Shaw. The design is slightly different from the FVD unit; the side pieces that extend toward the front of the car are a bit longer. The curvature appears to be a very close match to the deck lid contour, but the finish is just a bit wavy. I dropped it off at a body shop to block and sand it in preparation for painting. I'll post some pics of the finished installation.

BTW, I bought some 3M automotive tape from custom car grills. I believe it's the same product linked earlier, but this is a much smaller roll, more suitable for a small job like an air scoop.

I wonder what the difference in weight over the steel roof on the GT3 is?

If anyone needs an air scoop, I've got one in the garage I bought before I remembered I have the Cup rear deck lid on the car which has a scoop moulded in already. $75. Let me know.

I'll take it. PM me to arrange payment.

"I was able to shave off 4 seconds off my best time at a track" That is more impressive than the build!

ZHH,

I sent you a PM. Thanks

Chris

On a non-sunroof car, my DP Motorsport CF roof saved about 13lb over the steel roof. Mine was bonded on using epoxy designed to bond CF to steel. The roof contributes nothing to the structural rigidity of the body, but I wouldn't recommend doing it unless you have at least a half cage - mine has a full cage. A roll probably won't see the roof intact afterwards...