faster

[QUOTE=LVDell;8525315]How in the world does this happen?



long story short......he has a 6-2 and an 80's M491, there are no reputable mechanics in our local area and unfortuneately had some expensive bad experiences in a couple places he dealt with and wants to experience some american muscle for a change.

LVDell

Understandable, but interesting. It's just caters to an entirely different crowd.

drronh

I have run with a GT500 driven by an instructor at Daytona and I was able to lap him in a short session. He posted a video on youtube and here it is:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZNy8EjUpsg

He comments on the difference in our cars at 2:16 seconds. My car has an entirely stock suspension and driveline, other than the exhaust and BMC airfilter.

I have been doing track days for 10 years now, and the only fast Mustangs I have ever seen are the GT350's when I ran HSR.

JG 996T

No. Brembo 4 piston front; 2 piston rear.

Tedster

The new Boss Mustangs have been getting great reviews, especially with the track upgrade option.

amaist

A street Mustang will never be faster. Throw some real suspension on it and some good rubber and then we can see what happens. I just have my doubts about the body staying together for too long while lugging 3700 lbs around corners. 3000 lbs GT3s eat pads, tires and rotors like crazy already. Add that much more weight and there may be need to reinforce the subframes and such. Especially up front. I imagine the rear end is pretty strong on the 'stang or half of them would be fixing subrames after couple months of ownership.

But they are fun to drive and can provide a good learning platform. Recent cars are very very good considering their very reasonable prices.

ace996

Typical Z06 owner explaining how long his rotors lasted...
"About 4-5"
Porsche guy " Days?"
Z06 guy " No, sessions"



I take it you've never ownedtracked a C5 or better (Z06) Vette.
It is common to hear Z06 owners discuss rotor life in "sessions" or debate just how many extra rotors are "needed" during a weekend event (although they are only $30 from NAPA or Rockauto).
How about the T-1 guys discussing that they replace "calipers" once a season due to spreading and tapering of pads. Now at least SCCA has allowed a caliper upgrade for the Vettes (4 piston fronts).

I'm looking forward to the savings I'll have in consumables in the GT3 over tracking my prior Z06.

multi21

^^^ BRakes on the Z06 are their weak point. Fellow Rennlister and owner of both a 6-GT3 and highly modded C6 Z06 would go through the 6 front padlets in about a day on the Vette.

He just swapped out his front brakes on the Vette for Stop Techs. Did a track day and says the stopping power is just as good as the Brembos on the GT3.

He then took the OEM front calipers and with a little machining put them on the rear of his Z06 and changed out the padlets with a large mono pad. Can't imagine the stopping power he has now, nor the rate of consumption

ukrbmw

Yep - been there, done that. I used to have 4 spare fronts and back when I took my C5Z to the track. Good thing - I could change them in literally a few minutes.

I actually really like the new Boss 302. Plus the price point is just incredible at a tad over 40K. Of course the Ford dealers are going to try to get your first born for it, but for those who'll get one I bet it will be pretty awesome!

faster

There is a new KR listed over on Pelican cars for sale. it's listed weight is at 3920 I believe.. Is that similar to a 6 turbo weight also? I think he might have a friend he is wanting to taunt at the next track session with said type car, it should be interesting. I'll just keep my mouth shut and wait and see.

drronh

I track both a 6 GT3 and a C6 Z06 and the front padlets would last half a day (1.5 hours). I have had to send students home at lunchtime becasue they were out of pad. Aftermarket pads on the stock calipers weren't much better. With the Brembo kit on all four corners front pads can last almost a full season (12-15 weekends) and the rotors/rear pads about a season and a half. Stopping power is still not as good as the GT3 though, since the GT3 is much lighter, especially a stripper with a carbon fiber body.

ace996

Much lighter? 130lbs??

I think it's how that weight is positioned over the wheels at full braking that makes the difference. Z06's rear brakes do quite little...the GT3's rear brakes are doing a bit more work.

I still can't get over just how good the GT3 brakes...and over and over and over. It's such a pleasure not having to worry about the brakes.

multi21

Stock for stock the Z06 isn't much heavier than the GT3.

Ace, it's true that the Z06 rear brakes don't do very much and that is why my buddy put his front ZO6 calipers on his rear after he got the Stop Tech fronts.

Also take into account the fact that

1. the Z06 is probably doing 20MPH more than a GT3 at the end of a good size straight so it has to stop a little bit more weight at a higher speed.

2. The weight distribution of the Z06 is all concentrated on the front under hard braking where the GT3 is more evenly distributed because of the engine being in the right place

996FLT6

Ne idea the longevity of a midengine car? Mike

drronh

My GT3 is much lighter than the Z06. It has a complete carbon fiber body, lexan windshield, carbon seats, no headlights, no interior/headliner/etc.
My GT3 stock pulled the same top speed on the back straight at Sebring as the Z06 did and that is a long straight.