Jack

NJ-GT: You obviously haven't driven a GT2 back to back with a GT3, let alone a 550 as compared to a CS.

PogueMoHone

I'm not sure he's driven an M5 or M3 either, because that comparison doesn't hold either.

craigsduc

I,m positive he has never driven an M5 back to back to an M3 as I have driven both and currently own an 03 M5 and let there be no mistake.................the M5 vs M3 does not replicate a GT2 vs GT3 in a comparo.I doubt he has really driven a GT3 let alone a GT2.

NJ-GT

I haven't driven a GT2.

With the exception of the 2000 Cobra R, GT2 and the Ferraris, I've driven everything else on that list.

Has anybody here taken the actual weight of their GT2s? Those intercoolers, turbos, pipes, wheels, wide body add weight to the car and not just 90 lbs as Porsche claims.

Do you think the suspension in the GT2 is better than the GT3? Do you think the GT2 chassis is better than the GT3? Why is not Porsche racing the widebody 996? Why is not Porsche using the twin turbo engine as Audi is?

craigsduc:

If you think that the M5 is not more powerful and heavier than the M3, and that the M3 handling and braking is better than the M5 then BMW sold you something different with M5 badges. Get your money back if you can.

Jack

NJ-GT:

My point was that your analogies, for the most part, aren't accurate. Clearly, there are differences between the two, but fewer than you might imagine. You should really go out and drive a GT2. I'm fortunate enough at this time to have both the GT2 and GT3 in my garage, as does Colm. Both are great cars and share a number of the same characteristics, including suspension, tranny and steering feel, etc. IMHO, the weight difference (whether it's 80 or 150 lbs) is negligible, at least in terms of what I can feel when driving the cars back to back. In fact, my GT2 feels just like my GT3 with an extra ~170 ft/lbs of torque. However, for a driver of my inadequate skill, I will say that the GT3 is an easier car to drive fast on the track.

mitch236

Doesn't it say it all when you are able to compare two cars so closely matched and yet so differently priced? Remember the phrase "apples to oranges"?

Jack

Money is never an OBJECT, when it comes to cars! If it were, I'd be stuck driving a Z06.

mitch236

Could you lend me your GT-3 for some of my track events comming up?

Bob Rouleau

I'm with Jack and Colm on this one - probably because like them, I have one of each. The 3 is easier to drive near the limit because the power delivery is linear. The '2' has a massive inrush of torque above 4000 RPM which is breath taking. You better have the car pointed pretty straight before you venture there. On the other hand the astonishing acceleration is quite rewarding in and of itself. The GT2 is faster around the track than the '3' and it's an easy "fast" no sweat required. In the GT3 you can explore the limits - play pitch and catch if you want. The GT2 demands much more respect. With my limited skills it took me an entire season of tracking the car (20 days) before I could say I was comfortable with it. For the scientific minded my lap times went from 1:58 (start) down to 1:48 (end of season). Cornering is the same in both cars, the additional weight of the GT2 isn't a serious factor, go in with a balanced car and feed in power when it's time. With the GT3 you can fudge a little more whereas in the GT2 you drive it by-the-book or suffer the consequences.

The relationship between the two cars is as it has always been in motorsports - " how fast do you want to go, how much do you want to spend"?

By the way, we have all figured out that the GT3 makes more than its rated power. Trust me, so does the GT2 - a lot more. With nearly double the torque of the GT3, you have to experience the car to really appreciate it. A better analogy would be a C4S and a 996 TT I think.

Rgds,

CodeRed

They are both great cars, but everything being equal (price) I can't imagine any choosing a 3 over the 2.

NJ-GT

Bob:

Based on the experience you have with both cars at the track, and assuming you don't have any of them.

Which one will you get:

A) A GT3
B) A GT2 that cost the same than the GT3 + $40k

Thanks.

Bob Rouleau

NJ what a tough question. At sticker to sticker, I'd buy a GT3 everytime. The additional performance of a GT2 isn't worth a (Canadian) $120,00 premium. For only 40 grand it would be a very difficult decision. Remember I decided to keep them both. I must be a GT **** of some sort like Jack and Colm (note that I am not calling those distinguished gents "*****".

I think it would be an emotional decision mostly but all things being equal for 40K more I would probably go for the additional performance. Note that I couldn't make the decision, hence the "****" remark above. If the GT3 was white and the GT2 was Speed Yellow I'd buy the '3'. It would be that close. The soundtrack of the GT3 engine is worth a serious premium just by itself!

Best,

Larry Herman

I love my GT3, but if I had your $$ Bob, I'd have a GT2 for the street & a GT3 Cup Car for the track!

PogueMoHone

It's interesting to read all the views. Some are colored by perceptions and myths of what the GT2 is all about. Based upon what I have read here and on other forums I still think it is one of the most mis-understood Porsches of all time..it's reputation as a "beast" has been greatly exagerated by many who have never even driven one.

Bob's comments are pretty succint, it's a 'technical drive" and allows no room for error, and as an advanced Porsche product that's exactly where it should be in the line up. It's a car to grow into and I think that all the successful GT3 buyers will sooner or later want to explore "the next frontier" with the GT2.

To try and rationalize value would put us all in the Prius, or on bikes (and that's relative, subjective and unanswerable)..it's not about value, it's about driving experience (pun intended).

What is not subjective is, when all is said and done, it that those who own both prefer the GT2.

That has to mean something, or maybe we're just involved ia vast conspiracy to drive up the prices before a well know individual makes another purchase.

Bob Rouleau

Colm - the "well known individual" is busy knocking the price of the GT3 so we're safe for a while.