6GT3 Offerings
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#19
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How do you figure? Extremely limited production (especially considering todays GT3 production numbers), Mezger motor, modern interior/amenities, ABS only etc. The list goes on and on and on. I firmly believe 6GT3s will continue to go up in value and be worth over $100k at some point.
#20
The thing that sucks most as the values go up and some of us younger guys that hope to have one someday see the dream slowly fading away. I don't want one so it can sit in a garage and be part of a collection. I want one to drive. Easy to say when on the outside though because if I had one I'd want the values to stay up too. My hope is that in 5-7 years when I'm hopefully in a position to afford one I don't have to pay more than $75K-ish for a good/well maintained version.
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this happens to everyone at different times during the overall timeline. there are always those cars we wish you could afford, but they keep gaining value as you gain in income/resources. sometimes the gap grows, other times you actually catch up to the purchase. the 6GT3 is a high desire car for me also, but it's a matter of acquisition beyond what i have currently. at the moment, the 6GT3 is outpacing my available resources, but that won't last forever. i have a number of 'bucket list' cars that need to be considered when the timing is right. if i just had ONE bucket list car, this whole exercise would be so much easier!!
#22
Also consider that for its limited production run a large percentage have seen on track “incidents” that would be reflected in the limited availability of i damaged examples.
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The thing that sucks most as the values go up and some of us younger guys that hope to have one someday see the dream slowly fading away. I don't want one so it can sit in a garage and be part of a collection. I want one to drive. Easy to say when on the outside though because if I had one I'd want the values to stay up too. My hope is that in 5-7 years when I'm hopefully in a position to afford one I don't have to pay more than $75K-ish for a good/well maintained version.
Nader, what kind of car are you looking for? Garage queen / daily driver / dual purpose street and track?
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That's true - but I see that as an entry point for folks who want a "track only" car. Cars that have had incidents - if repaired properly - make great track cars. And since their value is lower - makes a great deal.
#26
The GT3 use to be on top of the food chain. As far as a track car there are few cars more engaging so I felt it worth the investment to properly attempt to maintain this marvelous machine. Which was somewhat special when I got it it in many ways. It's amazing the advancements in technology making it is mid pack now but the new stuff just isn't there for me.. So a higher $$ for a properly worked version for the right person is realistic.
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I wanted one of these since i first saw one back in '04 at an autocross in NY. I was a broke college kid. 13 years later, decided to finally buy one because i figured i may not be able to afford one later. I should have bought one 5 years ago when they were still $50k.
Nader, what kind of car are you looking for? Garage queen / daily driver / dual purpose street and track?
Nader, what kind of car are you looking for? Garage queen / daily driver / dual purpose street and track?
The GT3 use to be on top of the food chain. As far as a track car there are few cars more engaging so I felt it worth the investment to properly attempt to maintain this marvelous machine. Which was somewhat special when I got it it in many ways. It's amazing the advancements in technology making it is mid pack now but the new stuff just isn't there for me.. So a higher $$ for a properly worked version for the right person is realistic.
I am looking for a car that will replace a highly developed 993 which I used for 1-3 races a year with PCA, but was a frequent DEs car shared with my wife. The car was maintained with an open checkbook based on time of use, and not when things failed, and even that did not prevent the need to do some repairs at the track. I have bought a 914-6 to do vintage racing, so, as much as we loved the 993, having two race cars that neither could not be driven to the track, if we wanted to have both there, did not make sense.
I want a streetable track car that will likely not see much street use. As is human nature, I am gravitated to what I know, which are cars without "e-nannies" that makes 6GT3 an attractive choice. However, I actually remember when we thought/discussed threshold braking on the track because there were many cars without ABS. Now, I threshold braking is a footnote discussion, so perhaps I should not shy off the new technology.
I am not afraid to buy cars that have has accident or are high mileage, if they were repaired and maintained correctly. I actually want a car that is set up for track, preferably with a decent roll bar, GT3 seats, and harness. What I find are cars with 20-35K miles asking $$$ (some examples above). Almost all are 3-5 owner cars with some owners keeping them for a short time. Many have evidence of track use, but the track goodies have been removed to appeal to mass market. Many do not show level 3 or above over-revs, but some have large number of level 1 and 2 over-revs, about 50% have had track accident repaired that does not show on Carfax. There are some that do not have the coolant hoses welded. None that I have checked have evidence of recent LSD rebuilt, but worked within spec. No matter how many track days are on the car, no evidence of stub axle replacement or bearing maintenance, or shock/struts rebuild. As said, to me all of these are timed maintenance. I do 15 track days a year, I rebuild coilovers every 5 years as preventive. I am also aware of several cars with high track miles that needed transmission rebuild when getting to around 50K miles. I hear the same from shops who say do not worry about the engine, but the transmission is a wear item. I missed a car that checked most boxes at $60K by about 2 weeks.
I am not arguing current or future price of these cars. All I am saying is that in my opinion, with 6GT3 >$80K, there are many other cars to consider for track use. 996 can be a great and disposable track cars. If a 6GT3 cost $85K all in, why not buy a 7.1GT3 for about the same price, either deactivate the PSM or use a motorsport ABS to remove nannies. Early 997.2 or a second generation Cayman S can be build with all new parts for what a 6GT3 cost. Again, the merits of all of these choices can be debated, but like everything in life there is $ to enjoyment relationship. For me, >$80K 6GT3 as a track car reaches that threshold. Others may pay a lot more.
I have not posted something this long in a long time, if ever. One thing I can tell is that if 6GT3 is most at home on the track, the increase in price will keep it off track, the same as has happened to the air-cooled cars.
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BTW, I made an offer of $60K pending PPI on the yellow one in AL and they said no. I noticed the price is dropped by another $2K.