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Well written...and aloo agree with the post below, the Getty GT3 wing is nowhere as sleek as the GT3 RS wing, but it may just work better...I know that the 60" wing Getty style wing on my 993 (From Mirage International) with GT2 front aero, clipped 3 to 4 seconds off my former personal best at (Willow Springs Raceway), from a 1:37 to a 1:33.2, almost a 1:32. . I may have seen a 1:37 on the GT3 earlier this year....I am just too intimidated by the power to push it, and very afraid of an off course excursion.
Taking it easy is a very sensible approach. Many of the 1st gen GT3's have been crashed due to, well, a number of, ahem, 'factors'. Besides a handful of legit issues like hitting coolant or wildlife, often there has been lack of respect for what these cars can (and can't do). We still see it in later variants, but the risk is lessened when stability control is not disactivated.
I am in my third season with mine (also coming from a 993). I continue to progress and push harder, but my #1 initial objective was "Don't be That Guy!"
The "poser wing" makes a significant difference at high speed tracks like Brainerd and Road America. I can see how it wouldn't make a big difference in the smaller/slower cali tracks.
downforce GT3 OEM wing is 0 Kg at 200 km/h ;-)
downforce RS OEM wing is 25 Kg at 200 km/h
This thread somehow got mutated to a discussion about "poseur wings". As the original poster, I'm merely interested in information like that posted above by "tom". Assuming this is true, how much more effective (if any) would a setup like Dave-C2's wing be with higher uprights? I don't care of the RS OEM wing is real or not but that it generates 25kg of downforce. If the more aggressive and more costly set up like Dave C2's wing only generates 25% more down force then I might just go with the simpler route (RS real/Getty wing only--no uprights).
Ramon,
I was just adding light to the thread pointing out that the RS wing is absolutely an upgrade in performance over the stock wing.
In your shoes, with a dedicated track car I would absolutely go for the cup wing and opt for the roof high uprights from Demon Speed...or Getty if they offer them (not sure). I can't see how anyone would want that much more downforce than the RS wing offers with 8 degree shims as you'd have to do a big splitter and front aero changes to really balance out the car at that point, but the advantage you'll get to the cup wing run at roof height is that you can run it at less of an angle than the RS wing and produce the same amount of downforce with less drag because it's in cleaner air. No brainer for an all out track car. Should you choose to make the front end balance adjustments at that point then you can increase the angle of the cup wing and take advantage of a high downforce setup. It's an easy decision to go the cup direction with a dedicated track car.
This thread somehow got mutated to a discussion about "poseur wings". As the original poster, I'm merely interested in information like that posted above by "tom". Assuming this is true, how much more effective (if any) would a setup like Dave-C2's wing be with higher uprights? I don't care of the RS OEM wing is real or not but that it generates 25kg of downforce. If the more aggressive and more costly set up like Dave C2's wing only generates 25% more down force then I might just go with the simpler route (RS real/Getty wing only--no uprights).
Thanks again.
Ramon
the numbers are correct. They are coming from the German : https://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/...ockenheimring/
However you need to balance the car with "front vents" like RS and Cup are having. The optimal solution is the cup wing in higher clean air.
The RS wing with shims may have the same downforce but the Cup wing is having at zero degrees less drag which make the car faster at higher speed.
You´ll definately need to balance front and rear aero if you get Getty deck lid and cup wing. Joe T has a great two piece front splitter. I used to run Joes front with RS rear wing. The cup wing is a massive upgrade.
Someone above made a good point that a wing will reduce your top speed on straights but increase your speed in corners. Whether this will help your total lap time depends on the track. When I put a big wing on the back of my Lotus Elise I was 2 seconds slower around my home track, but the rear end was much more planted in the corners. Depends on what your goal is...speed for passing in corners vs. total lap times.
Consistent with comments from Andy, Tom and others, the front of my car has the Cup style arrangement with tilted radiator, sealed bottom and vents in the top of the bumper cover.
I also have a two piece Joe Toth splitter. The front and rear aero mods were done at the same time.
06-30-2018, 08:57 PM
