Stick Or Tiptronic What Do You Preffer?
#16
Rennlist Member
In the best of all worlds I'd chose a manual, in LA I won't complain about my tiptronic. I think there are actually three 996 variations. The very early ones (98/99) you had to shift from D to M to get the buttons to work. In later versions (mine is an early 2000) you could go out of D and into manual just by hitting the buttons. It would go back to D mode in about 8 seconds if you didn't continue using the buttons. I believe these were both the Mercedes versions of the tip, and they had 5 maps. In the third version, (made by Chrysler) the maps expanded to 250. That plus the extra 25 hp made the tip much more responsive. The 3.8 S with Sport Chrono was the best (and last) of the tips in the 911. All of these are easier and less expensive to service vs the PDK...but more expensive than a simple manual. The tip shifts faster than a manual but often lacks the instantaneous crispness associated with the manual.
#18
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Like most people here from So CAL, my Bro-in-law used to own a 996 Cab with manual but after 1 yr driving in heavy traffic jams, he gave up with back-pains, and switched to a 2005 997 Cab Tip. That was actually good for me because I inherited his old 996 6-speed, otherwise no P-car for me, heh heh heh :-) I love this car since then and have owned it for the past 11 yrs and counting... Btw my DD Jeep wrangler is an Auto and love it too. Cheers,
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I live in a densily populated area, lots of traffic most of the time. That was the reason for buying a tip, and I really don't regret that for a single moment. Driving a stick-shift from traffic jam to traffic jam gets old real soon. If I would have lived in a more rural area, I would probably have opted for a stick.
#22
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My truck is an 8 spd auto. My wife's SUV is a 5 spd auto (next will be 8). My old corvette is a 4 speed manual, my ZR-1 is a 6 spd manual, my 944 is 5 spd manual, and our 996 is a 6 spd manual. Autos have their place but sports cars are about driving! I want to be more a part of the drive so I prefer a manual. I hate driving them in DFW traffic though.
#23
Three Wheelin'
Oh this should be fun. The main reason manuals were historically superior was because you could not dictate which gear you were in using an "old school" automatic (obviously). And historically that was 100% valid. Porsche didn't even make autos for decades. Well that old school thinking is no longer valid. Manuals allow you to physically push a pedal with your foot and physically move a gear shift with your hand. It ends there. Neither of which represent any type of advantage. I know the "real drivers" will chime in to "educate" me.
The PDK is the superior technology and anyone who believes otherwise is probably using a typewriter, watching movies on BETA, and washing their clothes in a river!!
PDK... it's good enough for these guys:
The PDK is the superior technology and anyone who believes otherwise is probably using a typewriter, watching movies on BETA, and washing their clothes in a river!!
PDK... it's good enough for these guys:
#24
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Oh this should be fun. The main reason manuals were historically superior was because you could not dictate which gear you were in using an "old school" automatic (obviously). And historically that was 100% valid. Porsche didn't even make autos for decades. Well that old school thinking is no longer valid. Manuals allow you to physically push a pedal with your foot and physically move a gear shift with your hand. It ends there. Neither of which represent any type of advantage. I know the "real drivers" will chime in to "educate" me.
The PDK is the superior technology and anyone who believes otherwise is probably using a typewriter, watching movies on BETA, and washing their clothes in a river!!
The PDK is the superior technology and anyone who believes otherwise is probably using a typewriter, watching movies on BETA, and washing their clothes in a river!!
Perfect that's Awsome, thanks for sharing, O Boy, Stand by.
Last edited by Hotrodaxel1976; 06-16-2017 at 12:52 PM.
#25
Instructor
My 2002 Cab is a 6-speed. For me there were two absolute necessities when I bought a Porsche:
* It had to have a stick tranny
* It had to be a convertible
I live in one of the most traffic congested areas in the country (Silicon Valley). I would never pick a stick tranny if I had to deal with stop & go every day getting to and from work.
However, I am retired and can pick and chose when I go places. As a result, the stick works great and I LOVE shifting the gears. I drive the car every day and it has been a winner in every way!
* It had to have a stick tranny
* It had to be a convertible
I live in one of the most traffic congested areas in the country (Silicon Valley). I would never pick a stick tranny if I had to deal with stop & go every day getting to and from work.
However, I am retired and can pick and chose when I go places. As a result, the stick works great and I LOVE shifting the gears. I drive the car every day and it has been a winner in every way!
#26
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You really can't beat a CVT. Why doesn't Porsche get with the times?
#27
Racer
Thread Starter
My 2002 Cab is a 6-speed. For me there were two absolute necessities when I bought a Porsche:
* It had to have a stick tranny
* It had to be a convertible
I live in one of the most traffic congested areas in the country (Silicon Valley). I would never pick a stick tranny if I had to deal with stop & go every day getting to and from work.
However, I am retired and can pick and chose when I go places. As a result, the stick works great and I LOVE shifting the gears. I drive the car every day and it has been a winner in every way!
* It had to have a stick tranny
* It had to be a convertible
I live in one of the most traffic congested areas in the country (Silicon Valley). I would never pick a stick tranny if I had to deal with stop & go every day getting to and from work.
However, I am retired and can pick and chose when I go places. As a result, the stick works great and I LOVE shifting the gears. I drive the car every day and it has been a winner in every way!
Thanks for the reply, Nice to be able to move when you want in Southern California, it took me awhile learning the same
#28
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Take a deep breath and relax. No one is arguing which is better or faster. The title and replies so far are about PREFERence. I'm sure you misconstrued that somehow.
I owned a PDK car as a daily driver. I still won't have one in my hobby cars or weekend cars. Launch control was tons of fun, but on a track or country drive, I want to row the gears. Again, note this is a preference.
Now the reply explaining how my preference is wrong, that should be fun.
I owned a PDK car as a daily driver. I still won't have one in my hobby cars or weekend cars. Launch control was tons of fun, but on a track or country drive, I want to row the gears. Again, note this is a preference.
Now the reply explaining how my preference is wrong, that should be fun.
Oh this should be fun. The main reason manuals were historically superior was because you could not dictate which gear you were in using an "old school" automatic (obviously). And historically that was 100% valid. Porsche didn't even make autos for decades. Well that old school thinking is no longer valid. Manuals allow you to physically push a pedal with your foot and physically move a gear shift with your hand. It ends there. Neither of which represent any type of advantage. I know the "real drivers" will chime in to "educate" me.
The PDK is the superior technology and anyone who believes otherwise is probably using a typewriter, watching movies on BETA, and washing their clothes in a river!!
PDK... it's good enough for these guys:
The PDK is the superior technology and anyone who believes otherwise is probably using a typewriter, watching movies on BETA, and washing their clothes in a river!!
PDK... it's good enough for these guys:
#30
Racer
Thread Starter
[QUOTE=AnthonyGS;14259661]Take a deep breath and relax. No one is arguing which is better or faster. The title and replies so far are about PREFERence. I'm sure you misconstrued that somehow.
I owned a PDK car as a daily driver. I still won't have one in my hobby cars or weekend cars. Launch control was tons of fun, but on a track or country drive, I want to row the gears. Again, note this is a preference.
Now the reply explaining how my preference is wrong, that should be fun.[/QUOTE
Hello thanks for rowing threw those gears for us sounds exciting, thanks for sharing your preference.
I owned a PDK car as a daily driver. I still won't have one in my hobby cars or weekend cars. Launch control was tons of fun, but on a track or country drive, I want to row the gears. Again, note this is a preference.
Now the reply explaining how my preference is wrong, that should be fun.[/QUOTE
Hello thanks for rowing threw those gears for us sounds exciting, thanks for sharing your preference.