Thoughts on Hankook Ventus V12 EVO2
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I was a big fan of Ventus 2's when I had my 996. Went thru 2 sets of fronts and rears and liked the tire (and price) a lot. For the 997, I replaced my worn Pilot Super Sports with Hankook's and noticed a big difference in ride quality and sound (in a bad way). The 996 ran 18's and the 997 has 19's. Could be the difference. I am a few months away from another set and I think I'll go back to Michilin's.
Comparing Michelin's to Hankook's is like comparing the best French champagne's to California sparkling wines. It's not really fair. Hankook makes a pretty good tire for the price. For the price, I really like Bridgestones offerings too the RE-71R and S04. If price is no object, then Michelin Super Sports are the far and away best tire you can get.
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Comparing Michelin's to Hankook's is like comparing the best French champagne's to California sparkling wines. It's not really fair. Hankook makes a pretty good tire for the price. For the price, I really like Bridgestones offerings too the RE-71R and S04. If price is no object, then Michelin Super Sports are the far and away best tire you can get.
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I've had the Evo 1 and 2's on other cars and they're good for their price point. They have really good traction and tire life but the thing that I didn't like was the really soft sidewalls. On a non performance car I think they would be great tires but on a sports car I would spend a bit more. The Evo 2's are slightly less squishy sidewall wise but otherwise everything else felt the same with the same tire life.
#19
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^ Exactly. It was the sidewall flex, especially when hot, that made me dump the original Ventus V12 Evo's; I found the EVO2 addresses the concern (well, I first read the TireRack review that confirmed it before I bought in).
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I had them on my GT3 - Zero complaints. Good tires at a reasonable price. Good for DE as well as around town. Would have liked a tad bit more stickiness when hitting the brake pedal. That being said, I would have gone with another set had I not stumbled across a smoking deal on P-Zeros
#21
Thanks for all the feedback everyone. I guess we will see. The only thing that worries me is the comment about the heat as we routinely see 115+ for a couple months straight here.
#22
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they are pretty good street tires at a giood price
not meant for or good on the track. when they get really hot from track driving, they get greasy and wont last long.
another good street tire is the Sumotomo HTR ZIII and even less $$ than the V12's
not meant for or good on the track. when they get really hot from track driving, they get greasy and wont last long.
another good street tire is the Sumotomo HTR ZIII and even less $$ than the V12's
#23
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HawkFan, I regularly push these tires to what I would consider "high-ish" speed, sometimes in temps in excess of 100 degrees, for sessions of an hour or more. Unless you're actually tracking these on a hot day, you are not going to cause them to get slippery.
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I know someone who went through a set of hankooks and Z3 within 2 seasons, and recommended the Z3 for a cheap autox tire. Beware, the Z3 will chunk if you get it hot and beat on it, especially when the tread gets low. Mine are chunking and (the rears) about done after 6k street miles/3 seasons of autox.
#25
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Z3s have a stiffer sidewall, so on track they feel better but expansion joint/road noise is pretty severe with these.
I know someone who went through a set of hankooks and Z3 within 2 seasons, and recommended the Z3 for a cheap autox tire. Beware, the Z3 will chunk if you get it hot and beat on it, especially when the tread gets low. Mine are chunking and (the rears) about done after 6k street miles/3 seasons of autox.
I know someone who went through a set of hankooks and Z3 within 2 seasons, and recommended the Z3 for a cheap autox tire. Beware, the Z3 will chunk if you get it hot and beat on it, especially when the tread gets low. Mine are chunking and (the rears) about done after 6k street miles/3 seasons of autox.
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Just went all 4 corners with Evo2's to replace my 4.5 year old Evo's. 235/35R19 Front, 295/30R19 Rear. Going for a PCA tour event tomorrow morning and will report back. Already they are quieter, smoother, more responsive than the old model but I feel a lot of that has to do with the age. We'll see especially after some spirited driving next week.
D.
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So, reporting back...
The Ventus Evo2's that I just put on are a huge improvement over the Evo's that I took off. How much of it was better tire design and how much of it was new rubber vs. 4.5 year old rubber, I have no idea. But I can tell you the new tires are quieter, make the car smoother, and are MUCH more responsive on turn-in. I was able to test both wet and dry thanks to our typical rapidly changing weather here in Texas.
Started out on the wet driving through a thunderstorm. I actually drove that route faster in the wet with these tires than I normally do dry with the old ones (driver confidence?). When I got to my destination, some nice uninhabited twisties, the rain stopped and then sun came bearing down again. Within minutes the roads were dry again and that held for the rest of the outing.
In the corners, the tires had good grip that I can better describe as "predictable". I could hear them squealing with the cabriolet top and windows up but they never let go suddenly or when I didn't expect it. Even when I turned the PCM off for a few minutes. This was the same reaction I got when they were wet. I felt like I knew where they could stick and where they wouldn't stick and could easily keep it right there. I can't say the same about the previous set of the Gen I EVO's. I was always nervous with the old ones that I would sail past that threshold and end up in the Juniper trees. Maybe I was feeling the sidewall characteristics that others had voiced? Anyhow, these were totally different.
I was a little nervous about getting directional tires but the last set lasted pretty well so we'll see how these do.
I apologize for not being able to be more descriptive but with my relatively recent acquisition of an actual sportscar I am still learning and finding my words. I don't want to talk out of my *** about stuff in which I am not an expert. All of my performance driving prior to this car has been high speed tactical driving in LEO and Passenger vehicles, not purpose built sportscars. But that is my honest impression and I can say that I am happy with their performance and the purchase so far.
Hope this helps.
Cheers,
D.
The Ventus Evo2's that I just put on are a huge improvement over the Evo's that I took off. How much of it was better tire design and how much of it was new rubber vs. 4.5 year old rubber, I have no idea. But I can tell you the new tires are quieter, make the car smoother, and are MUCH more responsive on turn-in. I was able to test both wet and dry thanks to our typical rapidly changing weather here in Texas.
Started out on the wet driving through a thunderstorm. I actually drove that route faster in the wet with these tires than I normally do dry with the old ones (driver confidence?). When I got to my destination, some nice uninhabited twisties, the rain stopped and then sun came bearing down again. Within minutes the roads were dry again and that held for the rest of the outing.
In the corners, the tires had good grip that I can better describe as "predictable". I could hear them squealing with the cabriolet top and windows up but they never let go suddenly or when I didn't expect it. Even when I turned the PCM off for a few minutes. This was the same reaction I got when they were wet. I felt like I knew where they could stick and where they wouldn't stick and could easily keep it right there. I can't say the same about the previous set of the Gen I EVO's. I was always nervous with the old ones that I would sail past that threshold and end up in the Juniper trees. Maybe I was feeling the sidewall characteristics that others had voiced? Anyhow, these were totally different.
I was a little nervous about getting directional tires but the last set lasted pretty well so we'll see how these do.
I apologize for not being able to be more descriptive but with my relatively recent acquisition of an actual sportscar I am still learning and finding my words. I don't want to talk out of my *** about stuff in which I am not an expert. All of my performance driving prior to this car has been high speed tactical driving in LEO and Passenger vehicles, not purpose built sportscars. But that is my honest impression and I can say that I am happy with their performance and the purchase so far.
Hope this helps.
Cheers,
D.
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