1999 Porsche 996 C4 Pinion bearing replacement my DIY
#31
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Great Job! Certainly not for the faint of heart...
#33
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I do have a question, How did you reinstall the Input shaft to the bearing retainer with the Input shaft bearing installed on the shaft, I have never been able to do it
#34
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We had discussed the possibility of buying a generic 'Truck" bearing for this job. I had emailed a supplier in China with all the bearing specs,part number and dimensions several months ago.
I finally got a generic reply copied below.Not encouraging.
"This is chris from YTG Industrial Bearing Co.,Ltd.(China)which is specializing
in bearings for many years. According to your information ,
we'd like to introduce those items for you.
Item price/pcs
CSB213 $4.17
sH2334 $18.33
H216 $1.67
H316 $1.83
MT215 $5.83
NA203 $1.17
NA211 $3.67
NEL206 $1.17
We will be happy to give you a quotation upon receipt of your detailed requirements.
Looking forward to hearing from you soon.
Best Regards,
Chris.
skype: bearings22
Email: chris@ytgbearings.com
Cell&Whatsapp:+8615209863012
facebook:bearings37@hotmail.com "
I finally got a generic reply copied below.Not encouraging.
"This is chris from YTG Industrial Bearing Co.,Ltd.(China)which is specializing
in bearings for many years. According to your information ,
we'd like to introduce those items for you.
Item price/pcs
CSB213 $4.17
sH2334 $18.33
H216 $1.67
H316 $1.83
MT215 $5.83
NA203 $1.17
NA211 $3.67
NEL206 $1.17
We will be happy to give you a quotation upon receipt of your detailed requirements.
Looking forward to hearing from you soon.
Best Regards,
Chris.
skype: bearings22
Email: chris@ytgbearings.com
Cell&Whatsapp:+8615209863012
facebook:bearings37@hotmail.com "
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We had discussed the possibility of buying a generic 'Truck" bearing for this job. I had emailed a supplier in China with all the bearing specs,part number and dimensions several months ago.
I finally got a generic reply copied below.Not encouraging.
"This is chris from YTG Industrial Bearing Co.,Ltd.(China)which is specializing
in bearings for many years. According to your information ,
we'd like to introduce those items for you.
Item price/pcs
CSB213 $4.17
sH2334 $18.33
H216 $1.67
H316 $1.83
MT215 $5.83
NA203 $1.17
NA211 $3.67
NEL206 $1.17
We will be happy to give you a quotation upon receipt of your detailed requirements.
Looking forward to hearing from you soon.
Best Regards,
Chris.
skype: bearings22
Email: chris@ytgbearings.com
Cell&Whatsapp:+8615209863012
facebook:bearings37@hotmail.com "
I finally got a generic reply copied below.Not encouraging.
"This is chris from YTG Industrial Bearing Co.,Ltd.(China)which is specializing
in bearings for many years. According to your information ,
we'd like to introduce those items for you.
Item price/pcs
CSB213 $4.17
sH2334 $18.33
H216 $1.67
H316 $1.83
MT215 $5.83
NA203 $1.17
NA211 $3.67
NEL206 $1.17
We will be happy to give you a quotation upon receipt of your detailed requirements.
Looking forward to hearing from you soon.
Best Regards,
Chris.
skype: bearings22
Email: chris@ytgbearings.com
Cell&Whatsapp:+8615209863012
facebook:bearings37@hotmail.com "
#37
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Here is a photo of my pinion bearing installed where we can see the ''notch'' I was talking about previously.
I just finished the first part of reassembly and I have a couple of good infos.
I decided to leave the seals of the pinion bearing in place cause I said to myself '' the original Porsche bearing with magic grease had last 100 000 miles so if I leave it like that I will be sure to drive it a very long time before worrying''
Wrong, I opened the split pinion bearing and saw that there was only a bit of yellowish grease Inside. The bearing was in place but I have been able to remove both seals (first and second photo).
Also I attached the steel plate to the steel bar I used to sit the shaft on. It assured the steel plate and the shim to stay in place while pressing the first gear to go back on (third photo).
I'm halfway done, I've put back separately the gears that needed 25 tons to be remove together. The worst has needed around 15 tons to go back in place.
Here where I stopped tonight (fourth photo)
Last photo shows the 1 inch X 2 inch steel bar I used to sit the shaft. It bent a little bit
I just finished the first part of reassembly and I have a couple of good infos.
I decided to leave the seals of the pinion bearing in place cause I said to myself '' the original Porsche bearing with magic grease had last 100 000 miles so if I leave it like that I will be sure to drive it a very long time before worrying''
Wrong, I opened the split pinion bearing and saw that there was only a bit of yellowish grease Inside. The bearing was in place but I have been able to remove both seals (first and second photo).
Also I attached the steel plate to the steel bar I used to sit the shaft on. It assured the steel plate and the shim to stay in place while pressing the first gear to go back on (third photo).
I'm halfway done, I've put back separately the gears that needed 25 tons to be remove together. The worst has needed around 15 tons to go back in place.
Here where I stopped tonight (fourth photo)
Last photo shows the 1 inch X 2 inch steel bar I used to sit the shaft. It bent a little bit
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I think I did the job around 12000 kms and it still runs fine and quiet. Like new
I changed the tranny oil before the last season and the oil was fine without any significant debris.
I changed the tranny oil before the last season and the oil was fine without any significant debris.
#39
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#41
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I've built a bearing puller that grabs the input shaft bearing inner race and pulls it off the shaft without any damage. The contact part of the puller is bronze and the rest is steel. The entire contraption looks sort of like this (https://www.princessauto.com/en/deta...or/A-p2990103e) Then two long threaded rods are connected to the puller and a plate with some nuts and a centre bolt pulled the bearing off the input shaft. Wish Rennlist would allow non members to post pictures as that would make this write up a lot easier to understand. Anyways, this way now I can re use this bearing, only need to replace the damaged pinion bearing and save a bunch of this repair. After all this is just a repair not a rebuild. If all this works out the way things are going then, the pinion bearing replacement will be $140CDN (for the *** pinion bearing) and then add to this is the cost of gear oil and flange sealant.
Also I've trimmed the bearing retaining plate yesterday and the main shaft gear stack slid out, just like it did for you. Thanks for figuring this out, this is going to save a ton of work for anyone that does this.
Also I've trimmed the bearing retaining plate yesterday and the main shaft gear stack slid out, just like it did for you. Thanks for figuring this out, this is going to save a ton of work for anyone that does this.
#42
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I've built a bearing puller that grabs the input shaft bearing inner race and pulls it off the shaft without any damage. The contact part of the puller is bronze and the rest is steel. The entire contraption looks sort of like this (https://www.princessauto.com/en/deta...or/A-p2990103e) Then two long threaded rods are connected to the puller and a plate with some nuts and a centre bolt pulled the bearing off the input shaft. Wish Rennlist would allow non members to post pictures as that would make this write up a lot easier to understand. Anyways, this way now I can re use this bearing, only need to replace the damaged pinion bearing and save a bunch of this repair. After all this is just a repair not a rebuild. If all this works out the way things are going then, the pinion bearing replacement will be $140CDN (for the *** pinion bearing) and then add to this is the cost of gear oil and flange sealant.
Also I've trimmed the bearing retaining plate yesterday and the main shaft gear stack slid out, just like it did for you. Thanks for figuring this out, this is going to save a ton of work for anyone that does this.
Also I've trimmed the bearing retaining plate yesterday and the main shaft gear stack slid out, just like it did for you. Thanks for figuring this out, this is going to save a ton of work for anyone that does this.
#43
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Sent you a PM. Haven't got to the point of pulling the pinion bearing yet but in the next few days, I'm going to start pulling the gears off the pinion shaft to get to the failed bearing. Haven't decided yet about the keeping or removing the seals. You have removed them right?
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Sent you a PM. Haven't got to the point of pulling the pinion bearing yet but in the next few days, I'm going to start pulling the gears off the pinion shaft to get to the failed bearing. Haven't decided yet about the keeping or removing the seals. You have removed them right?