Originally Posted by kromdom

FastM96,
Nothing wrong with your plan above. Or you can just skip it all and go with a proven winner for not much $$$....FISTERs!

Originally Posted by FastM96

Sure. I know there is some debate about this, but I consider the PSE hack to be opening the top muffler hole and adding a pipe between that hole and the outlet pipe, which sort of mimics the OE Porsche Sport Exhaust option. I consider Gundo to be the addition of a crossover pipe between the inlet and outlet pipes, aka Fister, and that's the track I'm on with my local shop come this Summer except without the Cermachrome finish.

Originally Posted by 5CHN3LL

The Fister is the ONLY mod I've ever done to my 996 that I have never second-guessed or wound up uninstalling.

Originally Posted by Vdubjetta02

I run Afterhours Exhaust.... For weight savings primarily and yes it is loud... can get obnoxious in 3rd gear between 48 and 53 MPH... but I wouldn't change it back to stock ever. I love the noise. And will eventually add an X pipe to help the system become a little higher pitched. Right now it is very deep/throaty but would like a little more Exotic sound.

You can also run an X pipe on stock mufflers and may be able to achieve the sound you want.

https://youtu.be/mXDmzyKTLx8

Originally Posted by B-ran

I've heard a lot of good things about it as well, though I'd like to hear it in person and preferably from the inside of the car as well. I don't want to sound like some kid in a civic that put a fart can on the car, but like I said before the Fabspeed setup added a nice presence to the car, especially when going through tunnels or next to some walls

Originally Posted by B-ran

Not that I have the money at the moment, job hunting after quitting a decent paying but brutal on the conscience sales job, but I have been tossing around the idea of changing out my stock exhaust, at some point. My Boxster S had an awesome sounding Fabspeed system on it, and the burbles and pops when you let off the throttle were glorious. The howling at high revs was downright arrousing. But alas my 996 has a stock system, and I miss the burbles and pops and other sexy noises. Though the big, big, thing I like about the mostly quiet stock setup, when setting off from a stop with the windows down I hear nothing but a beautiful flat six mechanical symphony, it is raw and simple, and I do love it. Though most of the rest of the time, unless I'm at WOT and about four grand, it's just really quite quiet. I guess my question is, have you done an aftermarket exhaust and how do you feel about it, do you miss the stock setup, or do you have it stock and wish it weren't?

Originally Posted by mharrison

I'm running Fabspeed headers and mufflers with a Speedtech catless X-pipe. I would not go back to stock if you paid me twice what was spent on these parts!

I absolutely love the sound of it and it REALLY woke up the car when I added the catless x-pipe.

Originally Posted by jhbrennan

Another satisfied Fister customer. BTW Gundo is not the same as Fister but some folks refer to the mod as such. IIRC Gundo is the "PSE hack" you described. Search and you can find good pictures of both and the difference is obvious.

Originally Posted by FastM96

Yep, definitely some lingering debate about this. Based on what I've seen online this is PSE:



And this is Gundo (aka Fister):



That's the info I have anyway. Would love to hear views to the contrary - I'm fairly new to the 996 game.

Originally Posted by FastM96

That's the info I have anyway. Would love to hear views to the contrary - I'm fairly new to the 996 game.

Originally Posted by m3driver

Your first pic is the gundo, your second is the fister, they are not the same, contrary to WHAT you believe or have found on the Internet

Originally Posted by 5CHN3LL

Gundo developed the hack version that simulates PSE. Incidentally, Gundo later installed different aftermarket cans on his 911.

Fister is the guy who sells the Fister mod. He does nice work.