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Old 06-30-2017, 12:13 PM
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Resurrecting this thread.

Has anyone tried regrinding the crank say .010 over on the thrust and making a custom thrust bearing out of silicon bronze?

And why not double thrust the bearings?
Looks to me like you would just have to cut in the tangs on the other crank box half, the recess is already there.

Facing the same issue.
Old 06-30-2017, 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Mark Henry
Resurrecting this thread.

Has anyone tried regrinding the crank say .010 over on the thrust and making a custom thrust bearing out of silicon bronze?

And why not double thrust the bearings?
Looks to me like you would just have to cut in the tangs on the other crank box half, the recess is already there.

Facing the same issue.
The heat treat only protrudes into these crankshafts .003"

Any regrinding of these cranks is very difficult, as a custom heat treat profile has to be applied for any longevity at all. So far I have only found one company in the world that can do this effectively, and they are located in France.
Old 06-30-2017, 12:36 PM
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My crank guy (40+ years, cranks only, biggest in Canada) has already reground the thrust, he didn't believe there was a heat treat issue in this area. Passed magnaflux and all other specs.

He has an alfa builder that does this and it's common on big equipment.
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You'll learn the way I did. These crankshaft materials weren't around 40 years ago.
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So you've done this and it failed?
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Originally Posted by Mark Henry
So you've done this and it failed?
More than once.
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Damn...
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If the car is a tiptronic it may live.. The clutch load is too much longitudinally. Thats what kills the shims anyway.... As long as the factory doesn't install the shims backward. Thats usually what causes this issue with OE engines.
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On the same subject do you mod cars so they can start in neutral?
Can this be done through a durametric or ?

Anyone have a linky on this?
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Manual.
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"They can start in neutral" - I don't understand. Do you mean "start in neutral, regardless of the status of the clutch engagement switch?"
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The clutch with is easily bypassed... I don't do it from a liability perspective, but it most certainly is a great idea from a thrust wear perspective.
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Very easily done, I did mine, do not like dry starting any vehicle with clutch in, under the dash are two switches at the brake pedal and one at the clutch pedal, take the clutch switch wires and got a spade connector and connected the two wires together for the clutch switch and heat shrink a cover and tie strapped it up so not hanging. can be connected again if wanted to.
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Originally Posted by JohnCA58
Very easily done, I did mine, do not like dry starting any vehicle with clutch in, under the dash are two switches at the brake pedal and one at the clutch pedal, take the clutch switch wires and got a spade connector and connected the two wires together for the clutch switch and heat shrink a cover and tie strapped it up so not hanging. can be connected again if wanted to.
sounds like a good mod, might do that while I try the clutch assist spring removal mod
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Thanks, After I posted I figured there must be a switch that could be simply bypassed.


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