Shop went to change IMS and said they could not remove?
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Looks like a Christmas ornament.
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I would have preferred the engine numbers not match. Then I'd call the Attorney General's office and have them show up with a subpoena to check the number on the other 996 on the lot.
However, now that we know the engine in question is the correct engine, there is little doubt that the shop screwed up. At a minimum, call your credit card company or bank and stop payment on the $800 you paid them.
The next call should be to your attorney...
However, now that we know the engine in question is the correct engine, there is little doubt that the shop screwed up. At a minimum, call your credit card company or bank and stop payment on the $800 you paid them.
The next call should be to your attorney...
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Well, my tin foil hat was not needed after all. And, that's a good thing.
Now - for the "E" ticket option. I have heard, but not tested that a similar year Boxster S engine will go in this car with minimal conversion factor. Is it something I am recommending? No - it is not. Will it get the car back on the road for the LEAST possible cost? Why yes, yes I think it will. The OP seems to be concerned about the financial aspect, and not so much the performance.
Go to Ebay.com. Type in "Boxster S engine", and hit search. Ask the shop if they are interested in doing the swap over.
Again, not a recommendation, but - it's a way out.
Now - for the "E" ticket option. I have heard, but not tested that a similar year Boxster S engine will go in this car with minimal conversion factor. Is it something I am recommending? No - it is not. Will it get the car back on the road for the LEAST possible cost? Why yes, yes I think it will. The OP seems to be concerned about the financial aspect, and not so much the performance.
Go to Ebay.com. Type in "Boxster S engine", and hit search. Ask the shop if they are interested in doing the swap over.
Again, not a recommendation, but - it's a way out.
#126
They were going to instal the LN IMS solution. I feel lucky I got so miles out of the car, sure it doesn't feel great to be presented with a costly problem. But realistically, if I had done this earlier than 138k miles, I would have done my self a favor. I blame myself for not handling a potential problem that has been documented to occur in the 996. Whatever the shop did or didn't do, really has little to do with me going forward to achieving the goal.
13 bolts and 10 minutes later you have the truth.
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They were going to instal the LN IMS solution. I feel lucky I got so miles out of the car, sure it doesn't feel great to be presented with a costly problem. But realistically, if I had done this earlier than 138k miles, I would have done my self a favor. I blame myself for not handling a potential problem that has been documented to occur in the 996. Whatever the shop did or didn't do, really has little to do with me going forward to achieving the goal.
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What the shop did or did not do is absolutely the heart of the issue. You can't be sure unless you have someone that knows what they're doing look at it.
Dude, you're just wasting your time and giving yourself an ulcer by delaying and trying to rely on diagnosis from people on the forums. Nobody has seen it in person and nobody knows what that shop did.
You were actually just semi-convinced that the shop stole your engine and put in a broken one! Stop the madness, take it to a reputable Porsche shop and let them tell you exactly what the situation is.
Dude, you're just wasting your time and giving yourself an ulcer by delaying and trying to rely on diagnosis from people on the forums. Nobody has seen it in person and nobody knows what that shop did.
You were actually just semi-convinced that the shop stole your engine and put in a broken one! Stop the madness, take it to a reputable Porsche shop and let them tell you exactly what the situation is.
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What the shop did or did not do is absolutely the heart of the issue. You can't be sure unless you have someone that knows what they're doing look at it.
Dude, you're just wasting your time and giving yourself an ulcer by delaying and trying to rely on diagnosis from people on the forums. Nobody has seen it in person and nobody knows what that shop did.
You were actually just semi-convinced that the shop stole your engine and put in a broken one! Stop the madness, take it to a reputable Porsche shop and let them tell you exactly what the situation is.
Dude, you're just wasting your time and giving yourself an ulcer by delaying and trying to rely on diagnosis from people on the forums. Nobody has seen it in person and nobody knows what that shop did.
You were actually just semi-convinced that the shop stole your engine and put in a broken one! Stop the madness, take it to a reputable Porsche shop and let them tell you exactly what the situation is.
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To me the numbers matching would say the ball is entirely in my court and I wouldn't be stuck being able to do nothing while investigations and legal battles worked their way through their processes. The fewer parties involved at this point, the better.
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For us on the sidelines that might have been an awesome result, but there is a long road between finding out the numbers don't match and proving they did when he dropped it off.
To me the numbers matching would say the ball is entirely in my court and I wouldn't be stuck being able to do nothing while investigations and legal battles worked their way through their processes. The fewer parties involved at this point, the better.
To me the numbers matching would say the ball is entirely in my court and I wouldn't be stuck being able to do nothing while investigations and legal battles worked their way through their processes. The fewer parties involved at this point, the better.
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It's a silly discussion considering that's not what happened, but, if the number on the engine in the other 996 happened to be the number of the engine that was supposed to be in my car, well, I would imagine there wouldn't be too much investigating to do. Saving up to $20k would be worth it to me.
If they were bad enough to steal a motor the chances of them not doctoring records and damaging the serial numbers isn't too much of a stretch.
And if they happened to get wind of the coming storm before it hit they could do things to make it that much harder.
The whole time all of that is going on they would probably want the car and motor impounded as evidence.
#134
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I've had this exact same thing happen... A car pulled in the driveway after being drive from Texas for an IMSR preventative package... He pulls in the drive and his wife says she heard a noise. He told her that he stalled the car and no big deal... He though the car stalled... It was the IMS Bearing failing. He was already in a parking place, so the car stays there.
Luckily after the shop tour I told him to pull the car into our staging area, and it would not start.. Bearing failed.
Had he left, or had I been the one that started the car, I would have been blamed for that failure since it occurred while under my care, and control.
True story.
Luckily after the shop tour I told him to pull the car into our staging area, and it would not start.. Bearing failed.
Had he left, or had I been the one that started the car, I would have been blamed for that failure since it occurred while under my care, and control.
True story.
#135
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A couple years ago, I pulled into the parking lot of a local indy (indie?) shop, just to say hello. The shop owner said, "hey, let me hear the car with that Fabspeed exhaust," so I tossed him the keys.
Click... click... nada.
This is after I had been out driving all day, with nary an issue.
Turns out the fuel pump failed, right there in the shop's parking lot, five feet from the service bay.
Even so, I find OP's story highly implausible as it is told.
Click... click... nada.
This is after I had been out driving all day, with nary an issue.
Turns out the fuel pump failed, right there in the shop's parking lot, five feet from the service bay.
Even so, I find OP's story highly implausible as it is told.