Value of c4s
08-02-2016, 06:10 PM
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Value of c4s
Considering putting my 03 C4s for sale, it has around 110 k miles, very clean and well maintained, it was a high option car. Do you think I can get $25 for it?
Or I'm a dreaming.
Or I'm a dreaming.
08-02-2016, 06:23 PM
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i think you'd get close to that if the IMS has been done recently and it's well serviced with newer clutch/etc
i have same car with same miles(2002)for sale and was asking $24.7K and has IMS/clutch/flywheel done just 2800 miles ago - had several interested but just don't have the time to deal with selling it right now so i removed it from marlket
GLWS!!.
i have same car with same miles(2002)for sale and was asking $24.7K and has IMS/clutch/flywheel done just 2800 miles ago - had several interested but just don't have the time to deal with selling it right now so i removed it from marlket
GLWS!!.
08-02-2016, 06:23 PM
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Do you live in Florida?
08-02-2016, 06:31 PM
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color/etc also important - the meridian color tends to get less money
with 110K miles a well serviced, always garaged, no accident/no paint history, service records, excellent paint/interior, newer tires, updated IMS/clutch/flywheel = $23.5K - $26K depending on options. west coast cars better and more desirable due to no road salt issues/corrosion. cabriolet tend's to get a little bit more $$
considering i've owned 3 in the past 3 years i have a fairly good handle on the market.
with 110K miles a well serviced, always garaged, no accident/no paint history, service records, excellent paint/interior, newer tires, updated IMS/clutch/flywheel = $23.5K - $26K depending on options. west coast cars better and more desirable due to no road salt issues/corrosion. cabriolet tend's to get a little bit more $$
considering i've owned 3 in the past 3 years i have a fairly good handle on the market.
08-02-2016, 06:57 PM
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08-02-2016, 07:10 PM
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Any car with more than 100K miles is going to fetch less than a car with fewer miles. It's just the nature of the beast. In my mind, condition and maintenance records are going to be key.
You said it's loaded so that's definitely a plus.
Color combo will also play a role. Some colors sell better (or more easily) than others.
On top of that, any recent big ticket item repairs will be important. If you're on your original clutch at 100K, I'd expect to lower the price a bit knowing that the clutch probably doesn't have many more miles on it. Same thing with shocks, water pump and sundry other items that are typically replaced on or before the 100K mile milestone.
As for the IMS, I might be in the minority but I wouldn't set the price based on whether you've replaced it or not. At 100K miles, lots of things can go and if you've made it 100K miles on the original IMS, then replacing it is the last thing you should be worrying about as the seller. Most buyers (unless they're enthusiasts) won't even know what an IMS is let alone that there's a potential issue with it. If it's an issue to the buyer, then they'll raise it as a negotiation point but, really, they're buying a car with 100K miles on it, they should expect some maintenance.
If you've had it replaced, it's certainly worth advertising although, based on recent posts, knowing it's been replaced raises questions about whether it's been done properly and when it was done! If it was replaced 30-40K miles ago...well...it's time to replace it again then! IMHO, THAT, is something you need to tell a buyer.
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You said it's loaded so that's definitely a plus.
Color combo will also play a role. Some colors sell better (or more easily) than others.
On top of that, any recent big ticket item repairs will be important. If you're on your original clutch at 100K, I'd expect to lower the price a bit knowing that the clutch probably doesn't have many more miles on it. Same thing with shocks, water pump and sundry other items that are typically replaced on or before the 100K mile milestone.
As for the IMS, I might be in the minority but I wouldn't set the price based on whether you've replaced it or not. At 100K miles, lots of things can go and if you've made it 100K miles on the original IMS, then replacing it is the last thing you should be worrying about as the seller. Most buyers (unless they're enthusiasts) won't even know what an IMS is let alone that there's a potential issue with it. If it's an issue to the buyer, then they'll raise it as a negotiation point but, really, they're buying a car with 100K miles on it, they should expect some maintenance.
If you've had it replaced, it's certainly worth advertising although, based on recent posts, knowing it's been replaced raises questions about whether it's been done properly and when it was done! If it was replaced 30-40K miles ago...well...it's time to replace it again then! IMHO, THAT, is something you need to tell a buyer.
-Eric
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So, you've got a collectible and, maybe, a future collectible, the latter of which has more than 100K miles on it. How many miles on the 993? What kind of condition is it in? For that matter, what kind of condition is the 996 in as a comparison -- I know you said it's well maintained? The 993 Cab may fall lower on the collectible list than the Turbo S and Turbo but it's still a 993.
-Eric
-Eric
08-03-2016, 08:27 PM
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If it's 100% sorted you can get close to that figure possibly but personally if it was me I'd expect any issues that a PPI turned up I'd expect the seller to take care of all of it before I'd hand over $24k.
08-04-2016, 04:05 PM
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My IMS has not been done. My 993 has 68k on it, it's on the classifieds as we speak.
I've had my C4s for over 4 years, and I really enjoy and love the car. The only car I would replace this would be a 997.2 which is practically double the price, but not double the car.
The tough part about these cars is that nothing comes close to replacement at the 20 to 25k mark, absolutely nothing.
Personal reasons force me to get rid of one Porsche, I just can't keep 2.
I've had my C4s for over 4 years, and I really enjoy and love the car. The only car I would replace this would be a 997.2 which is practically double the price, but not double the car.
The tough part about these cars is that nothing comes close to replacement at the 20 to 25k mark, absolutely nothing.
Personal reasons force me to get rid of one Porsche, I just can't keep 2.