996 vs 928 buying advice
#61
Instructor
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Montreal-estero fl
Posts: 164
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I had a Boxster 2000 that I bought in 2008 for $10500 and just changed the oil .It was reliable and a friend of mine bought it from me for $10500 5 years later and has not put a dime on it since. I now have a 996 that I paid $ 14 900 two years ago with 128,000 miles with a remanufactured Porsche engine installed at 40,000 miles. Love the car. I had to do the AOS and that is all so far. The RMS has started a small leak and that will be the next step.Although I was told the IMS was addressed but without proof, it will be looked at that time. I will probably do it if it is established that it is the original. With a 16-year-old car, you must keep up with maintenance but a lot can be done with mechanically inclined owner,Good luck in your search.It is part of the fun
#63
RL Community Team
Rennlist Member
Rennlist Member
#65
#67
Race Director
Good comment. CL listings for cars in affluent areas are worthy of checking out. Car Gurus is another great source.
#68
#69
Leo - ...
Also, the "alphabet soup" I was referring to earlier was the IMS bearing, the RMS, AOS, etc. No, if I purchased a $15,000 '99 996 with a dual row IMS bearing, I would not spend another $3,500 or $4,000 doing a preventative IMS bearing change along with all of the other WYAIT (while you are in there) parts. You just drive it 'til it breaks. About a 1% chance of that happening with the dual row IMS bearing.
Also, the "alphabet soup" I was referring to earlier was the IMS bearing, the RMS, AOS, etc. No, if I purchased a $15,000 '99 996 with a dual row IMS bearing, I would not spend another $3,500 or $4,000 doing a preventative IMS bearing change along with all of the other WYAIT (while you are in there) parts. You just drive it 'til it breaks. About a 1% chance of that happening with the dual row IMS bearing.
This thread was the first time that I read that the dual row somehow fails more gracefully. I don't buy it.
There are dual rows with 250k+ miles on them, no after-market replacement I am aware of can make that claim. If you buy a 2000-2005, if it has the small single row, they fail at a much higher rate and I've seen nothing to dispel the idea that it was a really dumb cost-driven decision that severely hurt Porsche's reputation.
Of all the IMSB replacements the IMS Solution is the only one that essentially replicates the old plain bearing design used by the air-cooled generations. The downside is an external oil feed line but we did the same basic idea to our 3.0 air-cooled engines to install the 3.2 pressure-fed chain tensioners (the air-cooled 3.0 version of IMSB-impending-doom paranoia).
I also think cargurus.com is a good place to look. Found both of mine through there.
#70
This is probably one of THE best recommendations I have read on RL. I would go further I would not replace a dual row IMSB. I think that if a proper analysis were done, that 1-1.5% has probably already happen to all but a few 99s. There are defective bearings. Any car with even 40k miles would have failed by now. Some were probably from other factors (manufacturing tolerances, misaligned cases, etc.) those also would have happened by 40k. The only ones I think may still be out there are garage queens that sit for months or even years in old oil.
This thread was the first time that I read that the dual row somehow fails more gracefully. I don't buy it.
There are dual rows with 250k+ miles on them, no after-market replacement I am aware of can make that claim. If you buy a 2000-2005, if it has the small single row, they fail at a much higher rate and I've seen nothing to dispel the idea that it was a really dumb cost-driven decision that severely hurt Porsche's reputation.
Of all the IMSB replacements the IMS Solution is the only one that essentially replicates the old plain bearing design used by the air-cooled generations. The downside is an external oil feed line but we did the same basic idea to our 3.0 air-cooled engines to install the 3.2 pressure-fed chain tensioners (the air-cooled 3.0 version of IMSB-impending-doom paranoia).
I also think cargurus.com is a good place to look. Found both of mine through there.
This thread was the first time that I read that the dual row somehow fails more gracefully. I don't buy it.
There are dual rows with 250k+ miles on them, no after-market replacement I am aware of can make that claim. If you buy a 2000-2005, if it has the small single row, they fail at a much higher rate and I've seen nothing to dispel the idea that it was a really dumb cost-driven decision that severely hurt Porsche's reputation.
Of all the IMSB replacements the IMS Solution is the only one that essentially replicates the old plain bearing design used by the air-cooled generations. The downside is an external oil feed line but we did the same basic idea to our 3.0 air-cooled engines to install the 3.2 pressure-fed chain tensioners (the air-cooled 3.0 version of IMSB-impending-doom paranoia).
I also think cargurus.com is a good place to look. Found both of mine through there.
Thanks. I am on Car Gurus right now. Never heard of em before.
#71
Race Director