Atrox

The fact that PO posted that current owners car failed is low down, insulting, and frankly inexcusable. pandering is all this is.

DTMiller

I litigated one of the largest civil cases in the history of the United States. I think there is a case.

5CHN3LL

Evidently, you have not read enough of the seller's posts. He is a master mechanic with MANY experiences that make him far and away more qualified than any of those rank amateurs who actually developed solutions and brought them to market. /sarcasm

I think what I'm most surprised by is the failure of the seller to disclose the facts about the retrofit, since he went on and on about what a brilliant plan it was - and in fact crowed for some time about how he and the buyer were of the same mind about the car, blah blah blah. The BSometer has always been pegged, but now I realize the scale was completely wrong and we were measuring BS in tens of units instead of the thousands that were being produced.

As far as the car - I suppose one could argue that the motor was flawed and the failure was just the result of that engine being one of the "bad" ones that came from the factory - but it can't be overlooked that the car did 59,000 miles on that crappy sealed carmaker-doesn't-know-what-they're-doing conventional bearing but only managed 7,000 miles on the hybrid bearing hand-selected by the previous owner. I don't give legal advice - but I guess one question the buyer might consider is whether the manufacturer of the bearing used would have prevented him from buying the car. The kit that was used (sans bearing) is already a lesser expensive product than other retrofit solutions on the market, so it doesn't seem that buyer's decision was predicated upon the use of the best (i.e. most expensive, most publicized, most discussed) retrofit product.

Finally - I recognize that we all have differing opinions about whether or not legal action is warranted - but calling out our resident legal expert as an ambulance chaser for proffering his opinion is a little harsh. Let's keep the vitriol focused upon the korrect party here...

Imo000

To the OP:

KK asked me a few years ago when he was replacing his bearing about the bearing I bought to experiment with (it was sold by BOCA Bearing and I told him in a PM and in the engine repair thread "Dragged me home one of these", that what I did was an experiment, there was zero information on that bearing and I was willing to take a chance on my engine).

Fast forward to the Fall of 2014, when I took my engine apart again because of oil pressure issues after going to the drag strip. When I removed the bearing flange, noticed the experimental bearing was on it's last leg (luckily it hasn't come apart yet). Shortly after this I either sent KK a PM or actually posted in HIS engine rebuild thread that, he should contact the owner of his car (if he had the contact info) and let them know that the bearing in my engine didn't do so well and if anything, to at least check his. I haven't gone back to read that thread so only going from memory at the moment BUT I'm pretty sure he said he had no info on the new owner so......... here we are today.

As with all my threads on engine repairs, I always post the good and the bad. My 2nd engine repair thread (hosted on another Porsche forum but links are posted in original "Dragged me home one of these" named thread here on RL) was put on hold since last summer because I have been working on another car or other projects. My conclusion from my experiment was that the bearing I used (sold by BOCA bearings, double row hybrid with ceramic *****) is not suitable in my engine and the next one will be something different, perhaps I'll try a roller bearing instead (since those were not used back then so information was very limited on them). Things like this happen when you are experimenting but since KK knew the bearing he used didn't last for me, he really should have contacted the OP (like I suggested him to do) and tell the new owner "Hey, just and FYI, that bearing I used in your engine, you might want to keep an eye on because the only other person that used it (and was willing to share the data) had a failure.

Ahsai

OMG, too much to digest...

5CHN3LL

Wow. Things just got greasy up in here.

Quadcammer

5th chair?
Was the outcome favorable to you?

groovzilla

This hole keeps getting deeper. Should be getting close to China by now? Maybe even in the same proximity where the KK's failed $12 bearing factory is located.

alpine003

No groovzilla, just to be technically accurate, I believe he decided to ditch the $12 bearing and use either the $35 or $45 ceramic one. LOL.

Schnell Gelb

IMO said:
"When I removed the bearing flange, noticed the experimental bearing was on it's last leg (luckily it hasn't come apart yet)."
You are one of the brightest (& bluntest :-} ) Rennlisters for mechanical issues so your experience with a self-specified IMSB is particularly valuable. It is unlikely(?) you failed to do the pre-qualification checks or bungled the installation. So what do you think caused your first replacement Ceramic Hybrid bearing to fail ?
I understand that BOCA disapproved of this application for the bearing - but why? Do you have the specs on the bearing?
My interest is just the engineering an wanting to understand more about this issue.
Grateful for any ideas you care to share here. Thank you.

JayG

Lucy splain?????

Schnell Gelb

Please don't encourage him !

gnat

Careful or you'll make him start calling everyone tinkerbells again

Go read his post history, he is safe to ignore.

spruden

Agreed. Mind blown.

Didn't someone have a TV show idea floating around in a thread somewhere?

Atrox