Durametric Communication Problem on K-Line 2
#16
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This thread is very interesting to me. I've considered buying a durametric package (enthusiast) since I got my car ('99 C4) about a year and a half ago. Fortunately, I haven't had the need for it up to this point. It's not that $300 is a crazy amount of money to lay out for a useful tool - in fact, if said product works as advertised, it's a downright bargain. Then again, if said product doesn't work as advertised (as so many software based products don't) it's only natural to feel like you've been ripped off. I won't be ordering a Durametric unless there's some sort of positive resolution to this issue.
** I'd like to see a poll of users with '99 996's who have full functionality of the software
** I'd like to see a poll of users with '99 996's who have full functionality of the software
#17
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I'm hoping mine will work on my 99 C4, because I have the airbag out right now and had to run the car so the light is on. When I get the steering wheel back and connect it up, I will let you know.
I normally would think that it would work, but considering the C4 had drive by wire vs. a throttle cable and mine is a very late 99 build, I'm optimistic.
I normally would think that it would work, but considering the C4 had drive by wire vs. a throttle cable and mine is a very late 99 build, I'm optimistic.
#18
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It'll be good to know Paul - Thx ! BTW, do you keep your Durametric close to your microscope?
#19
My 99 C4 conects to airbag Iff I select 993 as the vehicle, it connects to dme and tiptronic also but sometimes gives the message "module failed to respond, Abs/Psm appears to connect but shows no fault even when I know for sure there is one.
#20
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I have verified that my durametric works on my 99 airbag module....but that's because I'm guessing it's a C4 and does have the drive by wire vs. throttle cable, it is probably more like a 2000 vs. a 99.
#21
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I've got a 99 C2 and have the same issues as the OP. Tried two different cables and two laptops, all with the same result: it connects to the engine module and nothing else. Very disappointing. I may check the grounding of the pins as described, though at this point I'm inclined to send it back for a refund.
#22
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Yesterday I took my car to a local shop and they had no problems connecting to, and resetting, my airbag module with their durametric cable. I guess that's the difference between the professional vs enthusiast model? At any rate, I'm going to send mine back because it's of little use to me if I can only connect to the engine module.
#23
Racer
If it is established that it works for Pro cables but not for Enthusiast, Durametric should fess up and exchange the cables for free for 99 owners.
Just sayin ...!
Just sayin ...!
#24
The pro cable does NOT work, I've use two different pro cables and neither would work. So the problem isn't with the pro vs enthusiast cable. The problem is they don't work on the 99, I will say I only tried it on one laptop, I'm going to try on my buddies laptop which is a top of the line and would crush 99% of the desktops out there when compared to computing powered to see if that makes a difference.
#25
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The pro cable does NOT work, I've use two different pro cables and neither would work. So the problem isn't with the pro vs enthusiast cable. The problem is they don't work on the 99, I will say I only tried it on one laptop, I'm going to try on my buddies laptop which is a top of the line and would crush 99% of the desktops out there when compared to computing powered to see if that makes a difference.
At least the shop was decent enough to only ask for a 'donation to the coffee fund' for the 5min they spent on it.
#26
Well, the shop yesterday had no issues using their durametric on my 99. With my cable, I tried two laptops and two cables (durametric sent me an extra to try), and it didn't work in any combination (other than the engine module). Needless to say, it's all going back to durametric for a refund.
At least the shop was decent enough to only ask for a 'donation to the coffee fund' for the 5min they spent on it.
At least the shop was decent enough to only ask for a 'donation to the coffee fund' for the 5min they spent on it.
#27
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The OBD connector is equpped with several pins/lines for communication. The most important are the L and K lines, these are serial communication wires. The L line is mostly used for sending an addressed wake-up signal for before starting the communication on the K bus. The Porsche 993 (95-) and 996 have two K lines, on OBD pin 7 and 3. In the 993 these were called K' (K "marked") and K, and in the 996 they are called K1 and K2.
In the 993, pins 3 and 7 are interconnected in the OBD tool in order to communicate with all OBD-enabled units.
This might also be possible in the 996, it could be an idea to try to interconnect pin 3 and 7 if this isn't already done inside the OBD tool. However, I have no experience with this and don't know if this is good or not.
By the way, there is no diagnostic connection to the Litronic headlights. The only control unit that might be a a candidate is the automatic level adjustment circuit, but this is a stand-alone system.
Cheers,
Tore
In the 993, pins 3 and 7 are interconnected in the OBD tool in order to communicate with all OBD-enabled units.
This might also be possible in the 996, it could be an idea to try to interconnect pin 3 and 7 if this isn't already done inside the OBD tool. However, I have no experience with this and don't know if this is good or not.
By the way, there is no diagnostic connection to the Litronic headlights. The only control unit that might be a a candidate is the automatic level adjustment circuit, but this is a stand-alone system.
Cheers,
Tore
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#28
99 C2 Airbag module reset with PIWIS, not Durametric
Hi folks, I posted earlier that I purchased a durametric cable and it would not communicate with the airbag module. I emailed Durametric and they stated there was a problem with my K2 bus.
Well to prove there is nothing wrong with the K2 bus, I just went to my porsche mechanic and he had no problem resetting my airbag module with PIWIS proving there is nothing wrong with the K2 bus. Don't believe Durametric's advice to you that there is something wrong with your car and not their cable.
It is conclusive, Durametric does not work with a 99 C2 996. Don't buy it if you own a '99. I have a durametric for sale if anyone needs one.
Well to prove there is nothing wrong with the K2 bus, I just went to my porsche mechanic and he had no problem resetting my airbag module with PIWIS proving there is nothing wrong with the K2 bus. Don't believe Durametric's advice to you that there is something wrong with your car and not their cable.
It is conclusive, Durametric does not work with a 99 C2 996. Don't buy it if you own a '99. I have a durametric for sale if anyone needs one.
Last edited by jdudjak; 04-29-2016 at 03:02 PM.
#29
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Good info. Bummed about the airbag.
Although I have to admit that in true tiger dad fashion I carry my Durametric and surface2 with me in my 99 C2 everywhere I go.
Although I have to admit that in true tiger dad fashion I carry my Durametric and surface2 with me in my 99 C2 everywhere I go.
#30
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I've got a C4 so maybe it'll work with mine...I just hate "gambling" on software...