blown engine
08-31-2015, 06:15 PM
#256
Former Vendor
We have tipped the 500 mark on preventative packages, and we still have not had a single post- process failure. This dates back to 2007 when I did the very first retrofit.
Nothing is conclusive, and no one will ever know what failed first, the chicken, or the egg.
08-31-2015, 07:00 PM
#257
Rennlist Member
Ahsai,
The only thing certain in life is taxes and death. We can try our best, but you can't make a mechanical system 100% fail-safe - that is especially the case with the M96 engine. Everything said, just give LN a call. The least we can do is replace your IMS and get your old one back (along with all the bits for analysis) and we'll give you additional consideration on internal upgrades, since it appears you were well under way to needing Nickies. The rattle you described was an early cylinder failure - fresh, thicker oil quieted it up. The cylinder bore material is very hard - it eats carbide tooling like crazy when machining blocks.
Just ask for John, he'll take good care. I'll give him a heads up you'll be calling.
The only thing certain in life is taxes and death. We can try our best, but you can't make a mechanical system 100% fail-safe - that is especially the case with the M96 engine. Everything said, just give LN a call. The least we can do is replace your IMS and get your old one back (along with all the bits for analysis) and we'll give you additional consideration on internal upgrades, since it appears you were well under way to needing Nickies. The rattle you described was an early cylinder failure - fresh, thicker oil quieted it up. The cylinder bore material is very hard - it eats carbide tooling like crazy when machining blocks.
Just ask for John, he'll take good care. I'll give him a heads up you'll be calling.
08-31-2015, 07:19 PM
#259
Jake, with your explanation of cylinder squirter and score in mid-bore I agree it's very difficult if not impossible to conclude which happened first.
Charles, thanks a lot for your offer and it's great to know LN stands behind their products (I never doubted that btw)! I'm actually considering my rebuild/refresh options and definitely thinking about about getting Nickies from LN. I keep all the parts of the engine so I can definitely send in the IMSB and the IMS, maybe with the broken IMS paddle as well. I'll contact John soon. I'll be attending Jake's engine rebuilding school in Dec so reassembly should not be a problem
Charles, thanks a lot for your offer and it's great to know LN stands behind their products (I never doubted that btw)! I'm actually considering my rebuild/refresh options and definitely thinking about about getting Nickies from LN. I keep all the parts of the engine so I can definitely send in the IMSB and the IMS, maybe with the broken IMS paddle as well. I'll contact John soon. I'll be attending Jake's engine rebuilding school in Dec so reassembly should not be a problem
Not the first time, and not the last.
We have tipped the 500 mark on preventative packages, and we still have not had a single post- process failure. This dates back to 2007 when I did the very first retrofit.
Nothing is conclusive, and no one will ever know what failed first, the chicken, or the egg.
We have tipped the 500 mark on preventative packages, and we still have not had a single post- process failure. This dates back to 2007 when I did the very first retrofit.
Nothing is conclusive, and no one will ever know what failed first, the chicken, or the egg.
Ahsai,
The only thing certain in life is taxes and death. We can try our best, but you can't make a mechanical system 100% fail-safe - that is especially the case with the M96 engine. Everything said, just give LN a call. The least we can do is replace your IMS and get your old one back (along with all the bits for analysis) and we'll give you additional consideration on internal upgrades, since it appears you were well under way to needing Nickies. The rattle you described was an early cylinder failure - fresh, thicker oil quieted it up. The cylinder bore material is very hard - it eats carbide tooling like crazy when machining blocks.
Just ask for John, he'll take good care. I'll give him a heads up you'll be calling.
The only thing certain in life is taxes and death. We can try our best, but you can't make a mechanical system 100% fail-safe - that is especially the case with the M96 engine. Everything said, just give LN a call. The least we can do is replace your IMS and get your old one back (along with all the bits for analysis) and we'll give you additional consideration on internal upgrades, since it appears you were well under way to needing Nickies. The rattle you described was an early cylinder failure - fresh, thicker oil quieted it up. The cylinder bore material is very hard - it eats carbide tooling like crazy when machining blocks.
Just ask for John, he'll take good care. I'll give him a heads up you'll be calling.
08-31-2015, 09:01 PM
#260
Former Vendor
Guys, see what happens when someone approaches a bad situation with respect and civility? JohnCK2014 needs to take some forum etiquette lessons from Ahsai.
08-31-2015, 09:28 PM
#261
Jake, I wonder if it should be strongly recommended that the spin-on filter and mag drain plug are "must have" items to go with the LN bearing? The extra cost is not that much but the combo greatly reduces the chance of non-IMSB debris taking out the bearing. It should give the owner enough advance warning if debris are found on the mag drain plug and/or the oil filter. At least it will be cheaper to repair/rebuild the engine.
08-31-2015, 09:49 PM
#262
Former Vendor
Jake, I wonder if it should be strongly recommended that the spin-on filter and mag drain plug are "must have" items to go with the LN bearing? The extra cost is not that much but the combo greatly reduces the chance of non-IMSB debris taking out the bearing. It should give the owner enough advance warning if debris are found on the mag drain plug and/or the oil filter. At least it will be cheaper to repair/rebuild the engine.
But, at the end of the day, buyers just think that they are being uphold on something and they won't buy it.
I developed the Spin On Filter Adaptor solely for this purpose, but of course, it was a spin off (pun) of the IMS Solution invention.
08-31-2015, 10:05 PM
#263
Just adding an FYI I figured out and has been mentioned in passing on other threads. Too put it simply, its not the spin on adapter that actually makes the difference. It's taking the oil bypass (which all filters have) and moving it from the bottom of the filter (where the OEM one lies) to the top of the filter (where the recommended Napa filter bypass is) so that when unfiltered oil is circulated, its not pulling from the bottom of the canister. For example the Napa filter and the mobil 1 filter have the bypass at the top, but the fram filters have the bypass at the bottom.
Feel free to correct this if I am incorrect.
Feel free to correct this if I am incorrect.
08-31-2015, 10:09 PM
#264
BTW, now that I've held the IMS in my hand I understand why its mass (significant) would warrant thrust control on the IMSB (when the car accelerates and decelerates). I also see how skinny that hex oil pump drive and the IMS paddle are.
08-31-2015, 10:11 PM
#265
Former Vendor
The IMS Solution is the only product on the market that offers both radial, and longitudinal support of the IMS assembly.
09-01-2015, 09:45 AM
#266
Rennlist Member
Just adding an FYI I figured out and has been mentioned in passing on other threads. Too put it simply, its not the spin on adapter that actually makes the difference. It's taking the oil bypass (which all filters have) and moving it from the bottom of the filter (where the OEM one lies) to the top of the filter (where the recommended Napa filter bypass is) so that when unfiltered oil is circulated, its not pulling from the bottom of the canister. For example the Napa filter and the mobil 1 filter have the bypass at the top, but the fram filters have the bypass at the bottom.
Feel free to correct this if I am incorrect.
Feel free to correct this if I am incorrect.
The filter used in the normal spin on oil filter adapter, or spofa for short as we call it, uses a Napa Gold 1042 (Wix 51042), which does not have any bypass whatsoever and is full flow (robbed from a 97-04 Corvette).
09-01-2015, 10:21 AM
#267
Click on the video for the napa gold filter. It shows a bypass. Is the 1042 different from the other napa gold filters?
09-01-2015, 11:04 AM
#268
Rennlist Member
http://www.napafilters.com/do-it-you.../#!prettyPhoto
Click on the video for the napa gold filter. It shows a bypass. Is the 1042 different from the other napa gold filters?
Click on the video for the napa gold filter. It shows a bypass. Is the 1042 different from the other napa gold filters?
09-01-2015, 11:31 AM
#269
Burning Brakes
Just adding an FYI I figured out and has been mentioned in passing on other threads. Too put it simply, its not the spin on adapter that actually makes the difference. It's taking the oil bypass (which all filters have) and moving it from the bottom of the filter (where the OEM one lies) to the top of the filter (where the recommended Napa filter bypass is) so that when unfiltered oil is circulated, its not pulling from the bottom of the canister. For example the Napa filter and the mobil 1 filter have the bypass at the top, but the fram filters have the bypass at the bottom.
Feel free to correct this if I am incorrect.
Feel free to correct this if I am incorrect.
http://www.napafilters.com/filters/o...prettyPhoto/0/
09-01-2015, 12:06 PM
#270
Rennlist Member
The platinum filters are excellent as well. Identical in construction to the K&N (without the nut on the end) and the Royal Purple filters. Probably all made in the same plant. I'd use the platinum filter for track use since the pleats are wire backed and very well supported for extra surge protection.